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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/10/obama-birth-control_n_1267677.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cmaing9%7Cdl1%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D134395

WASHINGTON - Faced with increasing pressure from religious groups and Catholic lawmakers in both parties over the new federal requirement for birth control coverage, the Obama administration is planning to announce an "accommodation" on Friday aimed at allaying some of the concerns of faith-driven employers. ABC News reported Friday morning that the announcement was "likely" to be made Friday. A source familiar with the deliberations told HuffPost the announcement was imminent.

One idea that has been mentioned is the 'Hawaii model,' by which an employer who morally objects to contraception could opt out and inform its female employees of where they can get that coverage outside of the employee health plan. In Hawaii, women who decide to directly pay the insurer out of pocket for contraception coverage are not allowed to be charged more than they would pay for their company plan.

ABC News reports that Obama's compromise would not go as far as the Hawaii plan, but would involve a third party health company helping to provide contraception coverage. It actually makes financial sense for insurance companies to cover birth control, ABC's Jake Tapper notes, because unwanted pregnancies and resulting complications cost more than contraception and sterilization.

Under the current rule, only churches and other houses of worship are exempt from having to cover contraception at no co-pay for the women they employ. Although the compromise does broaden the conscience clause to exempt any organization who opposes birth control based on religious beliefs, the Catholic bishops have already rejected the Hawaii model as a viable alternative because Catholic organizations don't even want to refer women to contraception coverage.

"All the Founding Fathers saw that, and how far are we removed when we're sitting around talking about, well, maybe the Catholic church could make a referral to a service that it regards as intrinsically immoral," Bishop William Lori, chair of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops' Ad Hoc Committee on Religious Liberty, told the National Catholic Register. "We're pretty far way from the genius that inspired the founding of this country."

The Catholic bishops have called the new health coverage rule "an attack on religious freedom" and argue that all employers who object to contraception--not just faith-based organizations--should be exempt from having to provide it to their employees.

“That means removing the provision from the health care law altogether," said Anthony Picarello, general counsel for the USCCB, "not simply changing it for Catholic employers and their insurers."

He added, "If I quit this job and opened a Taco Bell, I'd be covered by the mandate."

Supporters of the provision say the only conscience that matters ought to be the conscience of the women, whose option to have affordable contraception should not be dictated by the religious beliefs of her employer. Some of them feel that the religious exemption is already too broad, because women who work for churches in any capacity are excluded from the option of coverage.

“Birth control is basic health care and women should have access to birth control, no matter where they work," Cecile Richards, president of the Planned Parenthood federation of America, said on Thursday. “The Obama administration’s birth control benefit already includes an expansive refusal exemption, allowing approximately 335,000 churches and houses of worship to refuse to provide birth control for their employees.”   

A majority of Americans said they support requiring health plans to include contraception coverage, according to a new poll by the Public Religion Research Institute, and 58 percent of Catholic respondents said the same.

But House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) along with a number of GOP lawmakers a handful of Catholic Democrats in Congress have criticized Obama for the mandate. Boehner said in a floor speech on Wednesday that if Obama didn't reverse the rule, Congress would use legislation to do it.

White House spokesperson Jay Carney said on Wednesday that president was not interested in backing down on the rule, but that he would "work with those who have concerns" to implement it in a way that pleases all parties.

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baby steps....

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Here's another one:  http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2012/02/the-contraception-coverage-debate-isnt-just-about-the-bishops/252780/
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Hmm.. so it seems that all that is happening is the religious organizations can sign up for a plan that doesn't "cover"  BDP/sterilation, etc. But, insurance companies will raise the overall cost of health coverage and then offer BDP/sterilation, etc for "free".

AWESOME friggin compromise!

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In Response to Re: Maybe we're getting somewhere . . . from HuffPost . . .:
Hmm.. so it seems that all that is happening is the religious organizations can sign up for a plan that doesn't "cover"  BDP/sterilation, etc. But, insurance companies will raise the overall cost of health coverage and then offer BDP/sterilation, etc for "free". AWESOME friggin compromise!
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I agree with Riss's sentiments.  And if I hear it heralded as preventative health care for women one more time I may scream!  Pregnancy is NOT a disease that needs to be prevented!!

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I do love the grumpy look on Kathleen Sebelius's face, though.  Even though this isn't really good enough, it's still nice to see someone so anti-life be so disappointed.

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Do any of you ladies live in one of the eight states that do NOT provide for a religious exemption in requiring employers to cover birth control?  I'm wondering if the federal proposal is being welcomed or not.
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Just to clarify the facts (I know there is a lot of misinformation out there):

There are 28 states that have similar requirements to this Federal mandate, but 25 of those states allow waivers or other loopholes which would exempt these organizations from participating in this coverage. The 3 states that already enforce this without exemptions are NY, CA and OR. But, in all 28 states, these organizations can avoid this coverage by self-insuring their prescription drug coverage, dropping coverage altogether or opting to governed by the Federal law. Up until now, the Federal law would have allowed them to maintain their coverage WITHOUT including the morally objectionable coverage. With the new HHS ruling, the Federal law is now changed and would require these organizations to provide the coverage they are opposed to.

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In Response to Re: Maybe we're getting somewhere . . . from HuffPost . . . : I agree with Riss's sentiments.  And if I hear it heralded as preventative health care for women one more time I may scream!  Pregnancy is NOT a disease that needs to be prevented!!
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Word.  My forehead has violently encountered the surface of my desk multiple times over this already... Ugh.

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