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This is a topic everyone getting married has discussed with their S/O but I've been thinking about it more lately as a few of my friends have started having babies.  
Q:  When is the "right time" to have children? 
The basic structure most people go by are finances, stability w/ a home or "nest", emotional satisfaction-happy with S/O and ready to add to the family, career status, etc.  
As these differ from everyone specifically, if you and your S/O know someday you want to have children, what will be the "right time?"

I really ask out of curiosity but also I'm so against (unless by accident) bringing a child into the world when it's not the right time (and I speak for us personally).  What makes you financially secure enough-a certain pay check? A certain amt. of money invested for savings?  A certain level of education?  A certain amount of travel with your S/O?  
I know this is a personal question but I'm really interested in hearing feedback if you're willing to share.  
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    [QUOTE]This is a topic everyone getting married has discussed with their S/O but I've been thinking about it more lately as a few of my friends have started having babies.   Q:  When is the "right time" to have children?  The basic structure most people go by are finances, stability w/ a home or "nest", emotional satisfaction-happy with S/O and ready to add to the family, career status, etc.   As these differ from everyone specifically, if you and your S/O know someday you want to have children, what will be the "right time?" I really ask out of curiosity but also I'm so against (unless by accident) bringing a child into the world when it's not the right time (and I speak for us personally).  What makes you financially secure enough-a certain pay check? A certain amt. of money invested for savings?  A certain level of education?  A certain amount of travel with your S/O?   I know this is a personal question but I'm really interested in hearing feedback if you're willing to share.  
    Posted by tayylor65[/QUOTE]

    For us, it's being financially comfortable enough to afford the necessities and the amenities we want. I would also like to be in a house before we have children. I don't want to raise my child in apartments, and there's nothing wrong with those that do, but I lived my whole life in a house with a yard, and I would like that for my children.

    As long as all of our pregnancies are planned we will evaluate our financial situation with each additional child we would like to have
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    I think its up to the indivdual to decide that .We have the fiances but Im still in school so FI wants to wait for that to be done. Other than that, we trust each other enough, both love and want kids, are emotionally stable and fiscally responsible (I would go from splurging on a new pair of already reduced price shoes [and I mean they have to be marked down to like $20 for me to CONSIDER buying them] to splurging on a new bottle or a new coat, etc for the child)

    meh. I want kids now but I gotta wait :]

    Edit: Also, I dont think its fair to assume there is a right and wrong time to bring a child into the world. Even if it isn't the right time for you and you feel you cannot afford the child, there is a family out there that cannot give birth and its the right time for them.
  • FI and I discussed this already.  For us, the right time to start our family is when our house renovation is complete.  Since we moved it nearly 2 years ago, we have toughed it out through a kitchen remodel and room paintings.  Our kitchen remodel is still not complete.  Living in sheetrock dust with screws and nails strewn about is not an ideal situation for a baby.  I could barely handle it myself.  So for us, once the rooms we want re-done are complete then we're good to go.  We think this will be in about 2 years.  Oh and if we have money left over too.  ;)

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  • For us, we would need to be settled somewhere with a house large enough for children and a steady paycheck.  We don't have to be rich, but we want to be sure that we're past the point in our careers where we're moving around every few years for jobs and we're not on 2-3 year contracts.  In our case, that means once our post-docs are done at the earliest, but it will probably take longer to get a house.

    Sometimes I wonder if we should relax our requirements, since so many people seem to do just fine having babies in grad school or just after, some while still living in apartments.  I know that there will always be some excuse (we could save more money, or have better jobs) to wait, and part of me feels we should just go for it and let the chips fall where they may since there's never really a perfect time.
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  • I'm kind of in the same boat as all of you.  Finish school, finish our house renovations, save a bit of money.  I think it's important to have (aside from college funds) a savings/investment that would cover private tuition if it's necessary and travel to instill culture.  This is what I think would take the most time to build though.
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  • For us, the right time to have children will be when we're out of debt and financially stable, and when the idea of pushing a bowling ball through my vagina doesn't transform me into a melted heap of gibbering terror.
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    [QUOTE]For us, we would need to be settled somewhere with a house large enough for children and a steady paycheck.  We don't have to be rich, but we want to be sure that we're past the point in our careers where we're moving around every few years for jobs and we're not on 2-3 year contracts.  In our case, that means once our post-docs are done at the earliest, but it will probably take longer to get a house. <strong>Sometimes I wonder if we should relax our requirements, since so many people seem to do just fine having babies in grad school or just after, some while still living in apartments.  I know that there will always be some excuse (we could save more money, or have better jobs) to wait, and part of me feels we should just go for it and let the chips fall where they may since there's never really a perfect time.</strong>
    Posted by LauraT25[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>This is what I think will end up happening with us.  I'm a perfectionist and I worry way too much...if we don't eventually just go for it in a few years there'll never be the perfect time.   

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  • For us it's whenever it will happen.  If I start thinking that I need to make a certain amount of money before I have a child, I will never have any because I,ll always think I won't have enough.  We're ready to be parents and we are financially stable so we know we can take care of our children and give them the best we can possibly give.

    Mostly it's if you are ready mentally.  Are you ready to be there 24/7 for another individual and not expect nor demand anything in return?  Are you ready for temper tantrums, cleaning messes, spending hours a day dressing and undressing?  I believe finances are very small in comparison to what it takes emotionally to be a parent.  If you are not ready to make sacrifices in your life, you are not ready to have kids.  That's just my point of view.
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  • There is no perfect time. There is no way to fully prepare for a child, no matter your paycheck or stage in life. Things are way too unpredictable. My FI and I have 3 kiddos, (and are DONE btw lol.) We've had so many financial ups and downs, but we're happy with our little family. Our first child, and the one that we are about 3 weeks away from having weren't planned. #2 was, and about 4 months after he was born, I lost my job and we got evicted and had to crawl to his parents with our tails between our legs. But, we adjust and adapt to situations and realize that we have these little people who depend on us for everything and that gives us the motivation to not give up on each other or our dreams. We are doing things a little bit backwards, but it's getting done lol. Children happened first, then we're getting married, and a couple years after that I will FINALLY finish college. LOL This isn't how we planned it, and not how I would recommend it lol, but I wouldn't change it for the world :) Everything just depends on when you and you FI/hubby feel ready to take that next step, it's so much more an emotional thing than a tangible thing.

    and @ aerinpegadrak, the bowling ball fear doesn't EVER go away...not even when you're on the dang hospital bed about to do it lol, but about 25 seconds after it's done, you don't give half a care about what's going on down there, you're trying to see the little angry thing that the nurses are fussing over. :)
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    [QUOTE]For us it's whenever it will happen.  If I start thinking that I need to make a certain amount of money before I have a child, I will never have any because I,ll always think I won't have enough.  We're ready to be parents and we are financially stable so we know we can take care of our children and give them the best we can possibly give. <strong>Mostly it's if you are ready mentally.  Are you ready to be there 24/7 for another individual and not expect nor demand anything in return?  Are you ready for temper tantrums, cleaning messes, spending hours a day dressing and undressing?  I believe finances are very small in comparison to what it takes emotionally to be a parent.  If you are not ready to make sacrifices in your life, you are not ready to have kids. </strong> That's just my point of view.
    Posted by Cynthia1207[/QUOTE]

    I agree.  I think people lose sight of that.  Whenever, I hear of a couple thinking about kids, I always tell them to get a puppy first.  See how that goes for a bit.  Because I can tell you that those first couple months of owning a puppy made me realize that I certainly wasn't ready for a kid.  I know that comparing a baby to a puppy is like apples to oranges, but when I kept getting frustrating because the dog needed to go outside at midnight or it pooped on the floor or chewed a shoe, I knew that motherhood was not for me anytime soon.  I'm hoping in the two years it takes us to get our house that mentally we will be ready. 

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  • In addition to being financially stable and having a house, we also want to travel.  We want to get out and see the world before we get tied down with children.  I also want to get a significant start in my career before I switch into "mommy mode."
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    [QUOTE]I think its up to the indivdual to decide that .We have the fiances but Im still in school so FI wants to wait for that to be done. Other than that, we trust each other enough, both love and want kids, are emotionally stable and fiscally responsible (I would go from splurging on a new pair of already reduced price shoes [and I mean they have to be marked down to like $20 for me to CONSIDER buying them] to splurging on a new bottle or a new coat, etc for the child) meh. I want kids now but I gotta wait :]<strong> Edit: Also, I dont think its fair to assume there is a right and wrong time to bring a child into the world. Even if it isn't the right time for you and you feel you cannot afford the child, there is a family out there that cannot give birth and its the right time for them.</strong>
    Posted by stacie+luciano[/QUOTE]
    I like how you said that :)  So true
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  • for us its def about being mentally ready, we still want to have adventures and live in a couple other countries and do our own thing before we have kids. My FI is in economics/finance and invests so I feel like even though there will be ups and downs he knows how to handle money well. Also the whole thing with my body changing is pretty frightening to me, I'm pretty vain.
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    [QUOTE]This is a topic everyone getting married has discussed with their S/O but I've been thinking about it more lately as a few of my friends have started having babies.   Q:  When is the "right time" to have children?  The basic structure most people go by are finances, stability w/ a home or "nest", emotional satisfaction-happy with S/O and ready to add to the family, career status, etc.   As these differ from everyone specifically, if you and your S/O know someday you want to have children, what will be the "right time?" I really ask out of curiosity but also I'm so against (unless by accident) bringing a child into the world when it's not the right time (and I speak for us personally).  What makes you financially secure enough-a certain pay check? A certain amt. of money invested for savings?  A certain level of education?  A certain amount of travel with your S/O?   I know this is a personal question but I'm really interested in hearing feedback if you're willing to share.  
    Posted by tayylor65[/QUOTE]


    To the first bolded...FI and I have not ever had this conversation.

    To the second, I think you might find that there is never really a "right" time to have kids. If everyone sat around waiting for it, no one would have babies. Life is too unpredictable.

  • The right time to have a child isn't when you've been married for a certain amount of time or when you have a certain amount in the bank account (although I have heard both of these 'criteria' being used as a timeline for starting to have kids).  Having children should be a marker of the utmost maturity of a person and couple...not always the case. 
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    [QUOTE]I think its up to the indivdual to decide that .We have the fiances but Im still in school so FI wants to wait for that to be done. Other than that, we trust each other enough, both love and want kids, are emotionally stable and fiscally responsible (I would go from splurging on a new pair of already reduced price shoes [and I mean they have to be marked down to like $20 for me to CONSIDER buying them] to splurging on a new bottle or a new coat, etc for the child) meh. I want kids now but I gotta wait :] Edit: Also, I dont think its fair to assume there is a right and wrong time to bring a child into the world. <strong>Even if it isn't the right time for you and you feel you cannot afford the child, there is a family out there that cannot give birth and its the right time for them.
    </strong>Posted by stacie+luciano[/QUOTE]

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Here's a question for you... : [QUOTE ]This is a topic everyone getting married has discussed with their S/O but I've been thinking about it more lately as a few of my friends have started having babies.   Q:  When is the "right time" to have children?  The basic structure most people go by are finances, stability w/ a home or "nest", emotional satisfaction-happy with S/O and ready to add to the family, career status, etc.   As these differ from everyone specifically, if you and your S/O know someday you want to have children, what will be the "right time?" I really ask out of curiosity but also I'm so against (unless by accident) bringing a child into the world when it's not the right time (and I speak for us personally).  What makes you financially secure enough-a certain pay check? A certain amt. of money invested for savings?  A certain level of education?  A certain amount of travel with your S/O?   I know this is a personal question but I'm really interested in hearing feedback if you're willing to share.   Posted by tayylor65[/QUOTE] To the first bolded...FI and I have not ever had this conversation. To the second, I think you might find that there is never really a "right" time to have kids. If everyone sat around waiting for it, no one would have babies. Life is too unpredictable.
    Posted by Queen Jane[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>I'm surprised you and your FI haven't talked about whether you want kids or not, how many if you do, how you'd raise them, and so on but whatever works for you guys :).</div><div>
    </div><div>I agree that there never is a truly right time to have kids.  What other poster's said, that it's more emotional than anything else I also agree with.  When I say "right" time I just mean AFTER you've done what you've wanted to before children whether that be traveling through Europe, establishing a career/paying off debt, or just being free to do as you please.  Of course this is all based on family planning--i have a couple friends who had "surprises" and made everything work in every regard and couldn't be happier. 

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    [QUOTE]There is no perfect time. There is no way to fully prepare for a child, no matter your paycheck or stage in life. Things are way too unpredictable. My FI and I have 3 kiddos, (and are DONE btw lol.) We've had so many financial ups and downs, but we're happy with our little family. Our first child, and the one that we are about 3 weeks away from having weren't planned. #2 was, and about 4 months after he was born, I lost my job and we got evicted and had to crawl to his parents with our tails between our legs. But, we adjust and adapt to situations and realize that we have these little people who depend on us for everything and that gives us the motivation to not give up on each other or our dreams. We are doing things a little bit backwards, but it's getting done lol. Children happened first, then we're getting married, and a couple years after that I will FINALLY finish college. LOL This isn't how we planned it, and not how I would recommend it lol, but I wouldn't change it for the world :) Everything just depends on when you and you FI/hubby feel ready to take that next step, it's so much more an emotional thing than a tangible thing. and @ aerinpegadrak , the bowling ball fear doesn't EVER go away...not even when you're on the dang hospital bed about to do it lol, but about 25 seconds after it's done, you don't give half a care about what's going on down there, you're trying to see the little angry thing that the nurses are fussing over. :)
    Posted by DeadUtopia[/QUOTE]

    I think this is a great answer...and, being a mom, I can COMPLETELY relate! 

    I also think that the answer to this question is vastly different when you ask someone who has kids vs someone who doesn't, when they believe they were/will be ready for children.

     Looking back, we didn't know that it was the right time, but I got pregnant and we sort of went from there. We did what parents have been doing for centuries...we figured it out on the fly!

    Good question, though. Got me thinking.
  • We'd like to be in a house (we are renting right now and plan to buy in the next year) and hopefully have our dog calm down a little before we have a baby (he is 80lbs. at 2  years old and a LOT to handle. He gets very excited about everything, especially little ones).

    We'd really like to wait and be married a couple years before we start trying. But, if I got pregnant tomorrow, we'd be thrilled. Sometimes you just can't plan for everything life has in store for you.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Here's a question for you... : To the first bolded...FI and I have not ever had this conversation. To the second, I think you might find that there is never really a "right" time to have kids. If everyone sat around waiting for it, no one would have babies. Life is too unpredictable. Posted by Queen Jane[/QUOTE] I'm surprised you and your FI haven't talked about whether you want kids or not, how many if you do, how you'd raise them, and so on but whatever works for you guys :). I agree that there never is a truly right time to have kids.  What other poster's said, that it's more emotional than anything else I also agree with.  When I say "right" time I just mean AFTER you've done what you've wanted to before children whether that be traveling through Europe, establishing a career/paying off debt, or just being free to do as you please.  Of course this is all based on family planning--i have a couple friends who had "surprises" and made everything work in every regard and couldn't be happier. 
    Posted by tayylor65[/QUOTE]

    We already have one child and while we feel like we are "done" and perfectly happy as is, we will take whatever life throws at us. Since we aren't necessarily  wanting any more, I guess there really isn't much to talk about.

    Lots of people have surprises, I know we did. While we didn't think we were mentally ready for a child, you just become that way. You HAVE to. It takes a lot of work and a ton of sacrifice. I finished school and work in my field while FI is still undecided on a career. We live in a small apartment. We have a small amount of debt. Money can get tight. I would never have described our situation as being "ready", the farthest from it, but we adapted as need be.

    Thing is, none of that really matters. We love our son more than anything and do everything we need to in order to makes sure he is healthy and happy.

    It is sad that there are people out there who can't do that and aren't able to recognize it and give the child to a responsible family.
  • i honestly don't feel like there is much of a "requirement" for having kids except the obvious 1) be able to take care of them, and 2) give them your unconditional love. the right time to have children is different for every couple. and honestly, a lot of the time it isn't planned anyways.
    we have talked about it and for us we want to be married a few years first so that we can spend it together without anyone else at first. also, we own a condo but we would like to own a house with a yard before starting our family.
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  • I have a daughter that was unplanned, and the very first this I worried about is how we were going to afford being parents. The BEST advice that I was give was that if you sit around waiting to be "financially ready" you will never be ready. It's just an opinion, but it's kind of true if you think about it. As you start to earn more yes you can save, but at the same time your life changes, there will always be things that come up, things that you want, trips that you take. Have children is a total lifestyle change no matter when you have them.
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  • Well this one is easy for us. We barely have enough money for just us two at times. So adding a baby right now would not be a smart move. FI has had some setbacks in life, so he's still in school and graduates two weeks before we are married. So when he gets a stable career and not just a "job" and when we both have enough money in the bank (I'm talking rollover money, not just paycheck to paycheck) then we'll talk babies. I am in NO RUSH at this point. I would like to have a good hunk of money in a savings account first as well. So at this rate (we're both 27), we might be looking at 32-34...although FI would like to a little sooner. It just depends where we are in life. I think we'll reevaluate at 30 and see where we are financially (since that was our "ideal" baby-making age to begin with)


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  • I love what hello katie said.  I totally agree to get a puppy first.  After we got one I know even more I don't want kids.  It's so much responsibility. I worry so much about my dog I'd be a freaken wreak if I had a kid.
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    [QUOTE]I love what hello katie said.  I totally agree to get a puppy first.  After we got one I know even more I don't want kids.  It's so much responsibility. I worry so much about my dog I'd be a freaken wreak if I had a kid.
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    Holy crap! Our first dog was a BLESSING. Perfect angel. We just got a boxer puppy 4 months ago. Complete nightmare!! She is a terror. Gets into everything. I know, I know, she's a puppy and that's what puppies do...but she is seriously crazy. Not ready for kids if I don't even have the patience for a puppy...

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  • FI and I decided the best time (for us) to start trying would be after we have finished paying off debts from student loans.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Here's a question for you... : I'm surprised you and your FI haven't talked about whether you want kids or not, how many if you do, how you'd raise them, and so on but whatever works for you guys :). I agree that there never is a truly right time to have kids.  What other poster's said, that it's more emotional than anything else I also agree with.  When I say "right" time I just mean AFTER you've done what you've wanted to before children whether that be traveling through Europe, establishing a career/paying off debt, or just being free to do as you please.  Of course this is all based on family planning--i have a couple friends who had "surprises" and made everything work in every regard and couldn't be happier.  Posted by tayylor65[/QUOTE] We already have one child and while we feel like we are "done" and perfectly happy as is, we will take whatever life throws at us. Since we aren't necessarily  wanting any more, I guess there really isn't much to talk about. Lots of people have surprises, I know we did. While we didn't think we were mentally ready for a child, you just become that way. You HAVE to. It takes a lot of work and a ton of sacrifice. I finished school and work in my field while FI is still undecided on a career. We live in a small apartment. We have a small amount of debt. Money can get tight. I would never have described our situation as being "ready", the farthest from it, but we adapted as need be. Thing is, none of that really matters. We love our son more than anything and do everything we need to in order to makes sure he is healthy and happy. It is sad that there are people out there who can't do that and aren't able to recognize it and give the child to a responsible family.
    Posted by Queen Jane[/QUOTE]

    <div>Following all these quotes sucks LOL.</div><div>
    </div><div>Just to be clear, you HAVE talked to your Fi about kids, and it's that you don't want any more, correct? Wouldn't that be considered "having the talk about children"?</div>
  • thank you...Ghoti...lol wow


    I feel that anyone who is getting married NEEDS to have the talk about children...everything that taylor stated in the original post...You need to have some sort of common ground and understanding with the other persons thoughts and beliefs and how their backgrounds effected their opinions about raising children...ohmygoodness theres sooo much to discuss!   Without it...well you might be in for some big surprises....that might eventually break everything

    Our "plan" (and i say this loosely for everyone that has already said things happen unpredictably)  We already have a house and are comfortable financially, We are getting married in a year and a half.  I would like to start trying 2 years after we're married.  Have married time..and be able to be husband and wife...travel etc.  Financially speaking...um atleast a quarter or half a year's worth of income to even start the baby process.
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