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Replacing bridesmaids, gay bridal attendant, etc. (Long)

I don't usually post on this board, but I did some lurking here today, and I think I have a good chance of getting some common sense advice here. A couple of weeks ago, I posted on the ettiquette forum that one of my bridesmaids (T) had committed suicide. I never intended on replacing her, I wasn't worried about the sides being uneven or anything like that, was looking for advice on honoring her. I planned on having a candle burning in the place where she would have been standing. (Still the plan)

Well, 2 of my remaining bridesmaids were also friends with T. We were all housemates, and I felt like we became very close living together, which is why I chose them as bridesmaids. 

After T died, I was the one that contacted them about her death, gave them the details about the funeral, etc. Neither one of them showed up, they both said they had "other obligations". These obligations included "getting f-ed up at the club" and "gettin my drink on", according to their Facebook statuses. 
Ok,so, they don't do funerals. I was irritated at them for blatantly lying to my face, but if they prefer to drink to her memory...not my business. 

This week, we made plans to go shopping for their dresses on Saturday. We set a time and place to meet up, and I waited for over an hour before I got simultaneous texts from both of them, saying that they were sorry, that they were hungover, and couldn't make it. Awwwwesome. I go home, later that night, I call both of them, we make plans to meet the following day. Once again, neither of them showed up. I called both of them, texted both of them...nothing. No reply from either of them. Later that night, both of them had updated their Facebook statuses, one of them was having a conversation over their status about their "crazy amazing day"...so I know they were alive/not sick/not having a family emergency. 

Now, as of Wednesday, neither of them have contacted me to even give me a reason why they never showed up. So, I pretty much feel like they have decided to not be in the wedding. 

In addition to this, another bridesmaid had made plans to move across the country about a month after the wedding. Unfortunately, a family member of hers recently passed away, and she is wanting to move back home to be with her family sooner, probably within this month, which, I totally understand. 

So, of my original 4 bridesmaids and 1 maid of honor...It is now looking like I will only have 1 maid of honor. I wouldn't be worried about the sides being a tad bit uneven, but 5 to 1 is too much. 

Like I said about the two party girls, I feel like they have taken themselves out of the wedding. I know the general opinion is that if I replace a bridal party member, to be prepared to lose them as a friend. Honestly...I'm pretty much ok with that. It makes me sad that I thought we were closer than this, but since I was obviously wrong, I don't want them to be there.  

Enter the gay bride attendant. One of my very best friends is a gay male, I love him to death. He was who I originally wanted in my bridal party, but FI's family did not approve, and I caved waaay too soon in saying that I wouldn't ask him. I now really, really, really regret this. 

So, what do I do? In this case I feel like its ok to replace the two party girls. They don't know when or where the wedding is, they don't even have dresses, so I'm not worried about them showing up and being like uuuuuh, wtf? when someone is in their place. If they mention anything about the wedding in between now and then, I plan on just saying "Oh, I'm sorry, when you stood me up two days in a row without explanation, I assumed you weren't interested, and I asked someone else."

As far as the girl moving away, how do I gently ask her if she's going to be able to make it? Like I said, a family member just passed away, so I don't want to be bitchy...but its something I need to know, given that the wedding is less than 3 months away now. 

And as far as my male friend...how do I let FI's family know that he will be there, and that they will have to just deal with it? I usually get along really well with them, they are just really traditional, and, unfortunately, pretty homophobic. Would it be ok to not tell them, and them not know until the ceremony, when he goes to stand on my side?

Thanks in advance for advice!

Re: Replacing bridesmaids, gay bridal attendant, etc. (Long)

  • I don't if kicking them out right now is the best idea.  All three of you just went through the loss of your friend.  Yea that is crappy that they stood you up but this is what I would recommend for all of your BM's. They obviously aren't interested in going dress shopping with you so pick it out, give them the color, store, and dress.  Tell them they should order it by such and such a date to have it come in and leve time for any possible alterations.  If they don't get the dress they kick themselves out of your wedding.

    I really hope you are doing okay after the loss of your friend and BM, again I would really try and band together with this group of girls and hang out and do NWR stuff and just give them the info for the dress.  If the mention going shopping then you can say something about how you figured they weren't interested cause you never heard back from them so you just picked it out yourself.
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  • As for the 2 party girl friends that you aren't really concerned over losing, just tell them they have to have their dress ordered by a certain date, and if they don't they aren't a BM. I know they are dealing with the loss of your friend, too, but its pretty reasonable to ask them to order a dress if they still want to participate.  If they don't, adios amigas.

    For the friend that's moving, just straight ask her if she plans on still being able to participate since you know she's going to be so busy with the move.  No harm in asking.

    With the gay bf....  He's your friend and your fi's family doesn't have to interact with him.  Your bridal party is about who is supporting you.  I'm having a male stand on my side.  It's really not a big deal.
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    [QUOTE]I don't usually post on this board, but I did some lurking here today, and I think I have a good chance of getting some common sense advice here. A couple of weeks ago, I posted on the ettiquette forum that one of my bridesmaids (T) had committed suicide. I never intended on replacing her, I wasn't worried about the sides being uneven or anything like that, was looking for advice on honoring her. I planned on having a candle burning in the place where she would have been standing. (Still the plan) Well, 2 of my remaining bridesmaids were also friends with T. We were all housemates, and I felt like we became very close living together, which is why I chose them as bridesmaids.  After T died, I was the one that contacted them about her death, gave them the details about the funeral, etc. Neither one of them showed up, they both said they had "other obligations". These obligations included "getting f-ed up at the club" and "gettin my drink on", according to their Facebook statuses.  Ok,so, they don't do funerals. I was irritated at them for blatantly lying to my face, but if they prefer to drink to her memory...not my business.  This week, we made plans to go shopping for their dresses on Saturday. We set a time and place to meet up, and I waited for over an hour before I got simultaneous texts from both of them, saying that they were sorry, that they were hungover, and couldn't make it. Awwwwesome. I go home, later that night, I call both of them, we make plans to meet the following day. Once again, neither of them showed up. I called both of them, texted both of them...nothing. No reply from either of them. Later that night, both of them had updated their Facebook statuses, one of them was having a conversation over their status about their "crazy amazing day"...so I know they were alive/not sick/not having a family emergency.  Now, as of Wednesday, neither of them have contacted me to even give me a reason why they never showed up. So, I pretty much feel like they have decided to not be in the wedding.  In addition to this, another bridesmaid had made plans to move across the country about a month after the wedding. Unfortunately, a family member of hers recently passed away, and she is wanting to move back home to be with her family sooner, probably within this month, which, I totally understand.  So, of my original 4 bridesmaids and 1 maid of honor...It is now looking like I will only have 1 maid of honor. I wouldn't be worried about the sides being a tad bit uneven, but 5 to 1 is too much.  Like I said about the two party girls, I feel like they have taken themselves out of the wedding. I know the general opinion is that if I replace a bridal party member, to be prepared to lose them as a friend. Honestly...I'm pretty much ok with that. It makes me sad that I thought we were closer than this, but since I was obviously wrong, I don't want them to be there.   Enter the gay bride attendant. One of my very best friends is a gay male, I love him to death. He was who I originally wanted in my bridal party, but FI's family did not approve, and I caved waaay too soon in saying that I wouldn't ask him. I now really, really, really regret this.  So, what do I do? In this case I feel like its ok to replace the two party girls. They don't know when or where the wedding is, they don't even have dresses, so I'm not worried about them showing up and being like uuuuuh, wtf? when someone is in their place. If they mention anything about the wedding in between now and then, I plan on just saying "Oh, I'm sorry, when you stood me up two days in a row without explanation, I assumed you weren't interested, and I asked someone else." As far as the girl moving away, how do I gently ask her if she's going to be able to make it? Like I said, a family member just passed away, so I don't want to be bitchy...but its something I need to know, given that the wedding is less than 3 months away now.  And as far as my male friend...how do I let FI's family know that he will be there, and that they will have to just deal with it? I usually get along really well with them, they are just really traditional, and, unfortunately, pretty homophobic. Would it be ok to not tell them, and them not know until the ceremony, when he goes to stand on my side? Thanks in advance for advice!
    Posted by seesawgirl[/QUOTE]

    When is the timeline for them to have their dresses ordered?  I'd tll them they have to order it by then.  If they don't, then you have your answer.  Don't worry about asking the girl who moved.  If she agreed to be in your WP, unless she says otherwise, assume she's still in it.  No need to ask her if she is bowing out.

    As for the gay bridal attendant...I sure hope his feelings won't be hurt that he was chosen as a backup now that your sides are really uneven.  I wouldn't make a big deal out of telling FI's family or not telling them.  The bigger deal you make, the bigger deal they'll make

    Good luck!
  • If you are prepared to lose the two party friends over it, I would suggest as bltata says and give them the option to get their act together or not be in the wedding, and deal with whatever aftermath there is from that.

    I also don't think there is any harm in asking the friend who is moving if she can still handle being in the wedding, since it sounds like you aren't really mad about it, just concerned for her own ability to juggle a lot of things.

    I had my best friend as a man of honor and he is gay. My H's family is pretty conservative and many are homophobic. They were still respectful the day of and if they thought anything, they certainly didn't say it. It is none of their business who your friends are and if they are decent human beings, they will stay out of it.
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  • First of all, I am so sorry for your loss.  And I hope you're doing ok.  FWIW *hug*

    I agree with PPs on how to handle the two partier BMs.  Select the dress yourself, tell them what it is and give them a deadline on when to have it ordered.  If they get it done, great!  If not, so be it.  And it sounds like you're ok with that.  Maybe they just weren't ready to do the dress shopping yet because it was too soon after the death of T so they were still drowning their sorrows?  I'm not trying to excuse them for standing you up, because they shouldn't have accepted the shopping trip if they weren't ready.  But maybe that's what is going on and they will calm down shortly.

    As for the gay attendant, just make sure that when you ask him you explain that you really wanted him from the beginning so he doesn't get the idea that he's just been asked to make up the numbers.  

    And just tell FI about the gay attendant, let him deal with his family.
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  • I was irritated at them for blatantly lying to my face, but if they prefer to drink to her memory...not my business.
    They didn't lie to you. They did have other obligations.


    I wouldn't be worried about the sides being a tad bit uneven, but 5 to 1 is too much.

    No it isn't.


    FI's family did not approve
    Well, I don't approve of your fiance.


    In this case I feel like its ok to replace the two party girls.
    You replace broken furniture, not people.



    And as far as my male friend...how do I let FI's family know that he will be there, and that they will have to just deal with it? I usually get along really well with them, they are just really traditional, and, unfortunately, pretty homophobic. Would it be ok to not tell them, and them not know until the ceremony, when he goes to stand on my side?
    Yes, don't say anything to them beforehand. If they say anything at the wedding, refer them to the ACLU.


    As for the friend that's moving away, don't say anything yet. Ask her to hang out or talk to her about stuff not wedding related for awhile. Work it in later on. It's just not that important for you to know just yet. Well, making it's making you anxious, but it's probably not as big of a deal as what she is going through. Wait a bit and then ask.

    It sounds like the girls have removed themselves from the wedding by standing you up. It also sounds like you and them are on different paths, so removing them wouldn't be a terrible thing, since you don't seem to thrilled with the friendship, anyway.

    Am I doing the math wrong...? You had five girls. Two are drunk idiots and one is moving away. You should have two girls left. Who did I miss?
    Anyway, I wouldn't discount the girl who is moving away.

    Sorry if my answers sound all over the place, I'm distracted by Revenge.

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    [QUOTE]Also, I'm so sorry for the loss of your friend. However, I find the candle in place of where she would have been, to be a tad bit gloomy for a wedding. It's probably just NMS.
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    I second that.
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  • edited February 2012
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    [QUOTE]I was irritated at them for blatantly lying to my face, but if they prefer to drink to her memory...not my business. They didn't lie to you. They did have other obligations. I wouldn't be worried about the sides being a tad bit uneven, but 5 to 1 is too much. No it isn't. FI's family did not approve <strong>Well, I don't approve of your fiance.</strong> In this case I feel like its ok to replace the two party girls. You replace broken furniture, not people. And as far as my male friend...how do I let FI's family know that he will be there, and that they will have to just deal with it? I usually get along really well with them, they are just really traditional, and, unfortunately, pretty homophobic. Would it be ok to not tell them, and them not know until the ceremony, when he goes to stand on my side? Yes, don't say anything to them beforehand. If they say anything at the wedding, refer them to the ACLU. As for the friend that's moving away, don't say anything yet. Ask her to hang out or talk to her about stuff not wedding related for awhile. Work it in later on. It's just not that important for you to know just yet. Well, making it's making you anxious, but it's probably not as big of a deal as what she is going through. Wait a bit and then ask. It sounds like the girls have removed themselves from the wedding by standing you up. It also sounds like you and them are on different paths, so removing them wouldn't be a terrible thing, since you don't seem to thrilled with the friendship, anyway. Am I doing the math wrong...? You had five girls. Two are drunk idiots and one is moving away. You should have two girls left. <strong>Who did I miss?</strong> Anyway, I wouldn't discount the girl who is moving away. Sorry if my answers sound all over the place, I'm distracted by Revenge.
    Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]


    I don't know that it is her FI that doesn't approve though, she said it was his family. I mean, it could be him too which would be crappy, but I guess I didn't read it that way. My H's family is homophobic but my H isn't.

    And she only has one left because 2 are the drunk idiots, one is moving, one has recently passed. So just her MOH, it sounds like.
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    [QUOTE]<strong> Well, I don't approve of your fiance</strong>. 

    <strong>Am I doing the math wrong...? You had five girls. Two are drunk idiots and one is moving away. You should have two girls left. Who did I miss?</strong> Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]

    That's pretty harsh to judge her FI on his family's beliefs.  And, you missed the girl that committed suicide.  Yeesh. 
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  • I read that as "FI" didn't approve, not "FI's family". Sorry! I don't approve of your fiance's family, then. :)


    And, yeah, I totally missed that the friend who had passed away was the fifth person. I didn't realize she was part of the 5. That's why I asked, I figured I was doing the math wrong and it sounded weird to me.
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    [QUOTE]I was irritated at them for blatantly lying to my face, but if they prefer to drink to her memory...not my business. They didn't lie to you. They did have other obligations. I wouldn't be worried about the sides being a tad bit uneven, but 5 to 1 is too much. No it isn't. FI's family did not approve Well, I don't approve of your fiance. In this case I feel like its ok to replace the two party girls. You replace broken furniture, not people. And as far as my male friend...how do I let FI's family know that he will be there, and that they will have to just deal with it? I usually get along really well with them, they are just really traditional, and, unfortunately, pretty homophobic. Would it be ok to not tell them, and them not know until the ceremony, when he goes to stand on my side? Yes, don't say anything to them beforehand. If they say anything at the wedding, refer them to the ACLU. As for the friend that's moving away, don't say anything yet. Ask her to hang out or talk to her about stuff not wedding related for awhile. Work it in later on. It's just not that important for you to know just yet. Well, making it's making you anxious, but it's probably not as big of a deal as what she is going through. Wait a bit and then ask. It sounds like the girls have removed themselves from the wedding by standing you up. It also sounds like you and them are on different paths, so removing them wouldn't be a terrible thing, since you don't seem to thrilled with the friendship, anyway. <strong>Am I doing the math wrong...? You had five girls. Two are drunk idiots and one is moving away. You should have two girls left. Who did I miss? </strong>Anyway, I wouldn't discount the girl who is moving away. Sorry if my answers sound all over the place, I'm distracted by Revenge.
    Posted by Simply Fated[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>
    </div><div>Yeah...you missed the part where one of them killed themselves. 

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  • Someday, I will learn to read all the replies before I hit the "quote" button. 

    As far as the Face-stalking goes...its not that I comb thru their profiles, its just that when I get on, and bam, there's them talking about their wild nights of partying...its pretty much in my face. I don't even have to look for it, its just...there. 

    And yes, its my FI's family that disapproves, not FI. He just doesn't want to offend his family. I told him tonight that his mother, and his other family members got to plan their own weddings, this is ours, and we'll ask who we like. 


    Thanks for the advice everyone! 
  • I warned you I was distracted by Revenge lol.


    I'm glad your fiance is going to back you up on your decision.

    And I know what you mean about FB, stuff just pops up on my newsfeed all the time that I'd rather not see. It's pretty messed up of them to blow you off and them post about what they were doing instead of being with you like they said they would be.
    I gotta ask... is there a part of you that wishes they had at least invited you to come along on their night out? Not the night of the funeral, I mean the time they were supposed to go dress shopping with you and the time they went the night before dress shopping?
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  • I guess I am the only one that would kick them out. Yes, I understand that "you dont replace people, you replace furniture" but these drunk idiots showed a complete disregard for your friend and her family for not showing up to the funeral. They stood you up twice and gave you a BS excuse. There is no way I could have those people standing up next to me knowing they really are not sups yportive. I would actually be scared that they might not show up at all.

    Definitely ask your male friend. Tell your FIs family in advance though to avoid a scene at your wedding.



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  • First off, I am SO sorry about your friend. I can't even imagine what you're going through.

    As far as the two party friends go, is this normal behavior for them? I can't help but think that on some level this might be their way of grieving. It's possible that they didn't show up to the funeral or wake because they just couldn't bring themselves to. I'm not making excuses for them, just throwing out the possibility.

    Now, if this is something that's ongoing (them blowing you off/standing you up/ignoring your phone calls), then to me, ordinarily, all bets would be off. However, they're undoubtedly hurting right now, too. That said, I would try to set up some time with them just to hang out and talk, or to grab lunch, or something of the sort. Leave the wedding out of it for now. Just make it a day with your girls. Later on, maybe a few days later, let them know about the deadline for the dresses, along with color/style/length, what have you. At that point the ball is in their court, and they can take it and run or not. But that will determine whether or not they're still in the wedding.

    With regards to your guy friend, I would stick to the advice of the other posters. Make it clear that you wanted him to stand up with you from the beginning, and that the more you thought about it, the less you could stand the thought of him NOT being in the wedding. He's not a replacement. He's an addition.

    I hope this helped on some level :)
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    [QUOTE]I guess I am the only one that would kick them out. Yes, I understand that "you dont replace people, you replace furniture" but these drunk idiots showed a complete disregard for your friend and her family for not showing up to the funeral. They stood you up twice and gave you a BS excuse. There is no way I could have those people standing up next to me knowing they really are not sups yportive. I would actually be scared that they might not show up at all. Definitely ask your male friend. Tell your FIs family in advance though to avoid a scene at your wedding.
    Posted by sparkles776[/QUOTE]
    There is a difference between kicking them out and replacing them. You can have one without the other...
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  • I would just tell them to have this dress by this date, and if they don't, then you don't have to worry about kicking them out because they've done it for you. If you aren't concerned with losing them as friends, then I'd say that's the best way to go about it without making yourself look bad. Honestly, I don't give a crap about all TK party lines when it comes to kicking BMs out in situations like this. They lied to you, didn't show up without bothering to text, and are being generally disrespectful and thoughtless so I think you have every right to be miffed.

    I'd also go ahead and ask the male friend. Don't even bother telling FI's family. It's not their decision to make, but yours. If they don't like it, tell them to get the eff over it.
  • I'm not going to add my two cents on what you should do with the two BM's because numerous people have already suggested what I would do... The only twist is I'd maybe talk to each one individually and let them know how disappointed you are that they stood you up, and maybe ask in a non confrontational way if they truly want to be in the wedding. Be prepared for them to say no.

    As for losing your friend, I am so, so, so sorry. I lost a close friend this past summer unexpectedly.  It was really hard for me to see how some of my friends chose to deal with their grief, or rather not deal with it at all. I had to realize that not everybody had a relationship like I did with my friend, and probably the same for you and yours, and that they will deal with the loss in their own way.

    As for your gay friend standing up in your wedding... By all means ask him!! He's your friend, he's been true to you, and it sounds like you need some people to love and support you right now.

    You mentioned having a candle where your friend would have been standing, perhaps you could have a candle off the the side, or towards the front that has wording on it that says, "This candle represents the memory of those who couldn't be here today," or something along those lines.

    Again, I am so sorry for your loss. It's an extremely hard thing, no matter if it was expected or not. :(

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    [QUOTE]I read that as "FI" didn't approve, not "FI's family". Sorry! I don't approve of your fiance's family , then. :) And, yeah, I totally missed that the friend who had passed away was the fifth person. I didn't realize she was part of the 5. That's why I asked, I figured I was doing the math wrong and it sounded weird to me.
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    <div>You were too busy being a biitch to read the fine print.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Replacing bridesmaids, gay bridal attendant, etc. (Long) : You were too busy being a biitch to read the fine print.
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    Agreed.
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  • Did you guys just seriously call me a biitch just because I misread something?
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  • SF, I think they're calling you a biitch because, well, it read like you were being a biitch.

  • I seriously did darlin. I didn't stutter.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_replacing-bridesmaids-gay-bridal-attendant-etc-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:ee065bc8-cd92-4db1-a95e-b0532bedece6Post:f1390427-114c-488a-8c7d-3d1a0dc56328">Re: Replacing bridesmaids, gay bridal attendant, etc. (Long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]SF, I think they're calling you a biitch because, well, it read like you were being a biitch.
    Posted by KarleeKrause35[/QUOTE]

    Agreed.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_replacing-bridesmaids-gay-bridal-attendant-etc-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:ee065bc8-cd92-4db1-a95e-b0532bedece6Post:042b9df7-2c37-48c7-bb8f-1c4e4a2ee9db">Re: Replacing bridesmaids, gay bridal attendant, etc. (Long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Replacing bridesmaids, gay bridal attendant, etc. (Long) : You were too busy being a biitch to read the fine print.
    Posted by letsdothisagain[/QUOTE]

    <div><strong><em>I agree! </em></strong></div><div><strong><em>
    </em></strong></div><div><strong><em>Anywho! I'm sorry about your loss! I love the candle idea in memory of your friend.</em></strong></div><div><strong><em>
    </em></strong></div><div><strong><em>Someone posted kicking the girls out..honestly, I would do the same..They showed complete disrespect/disregard to your friends death! I understand that some people do not attend funerals and grieve differently but drinking and clubbing the day of her funeral that's extremely disrespectful! </em></strong></div><div><strong><em>
    </em></strong></div><div><strong><em>Also if you feel having 5 groomsmen vs 1 MOH is odd...then yes replace (yes I said replace!) the two drunks, discuss the issue with your other friend and include your gay bridal attendant (I don't think you should replace your friend who passed away..the candle idea is great to symbolize her presence)..afterall its You and your hubby's day! Yes I will say it again...it is YOU AND YOUR HUBBY'S DAY!! </em></strong></div><div><strong><em>
    </em></strong></div><div><strong><em>Goodluck!</em></strong></div>
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  • [Quote] They don't know when or where the wedding is, they don't even have dresses, so I'm not worried about them showing up and being like uuuuuh, wtf? when someone is in their place.  [Quote]

    I'm very sorry for the loss of your friend. However, this comment really stuck out to me. You are getting married in 3 months and your bridesmaids don't even know when or where it is? I mean I don't expect the bridesmaids to know every single detail about your wedding but bridesmaids are supposed to be your best friends and it really seems like they could care less about any of the planning. You shouldn't have to demand they buy a dress by X date because they couldn't make the time to go dress shopping with you. I think you know that even if you did this they wouldn't and you would have wasted more time. I'm so sorry that you are having to go through all of this but IMO you need to follow your  heart. I can tell that you are over these girls and they kind of sound like crazy drunks that will probably be a hot mess at your wedding anyway. I think you should get rid of them and add your male friend. You should also be open with him and explain why so his feelings aren't hurt later. Explain to him that FI and you love him and he was first pick but FI's family was not fond of the idea and you went along with their decision in the beginning to kinda shut them up but all along your heart was telling you that you were doing the wrong thing and you want him up there instead of the lushes. I also think you need let the other girls know that you can tell they aren't very interested in being bridesmaids so you are ok if they don't want to participate. You could lose them as friends (which seems like you are ok with at this point I dont blame you) OR they could shape up and you could have them as BM along with the guy. Just my thoughts.. =) Best of luck to you!
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  • Ask the one moving if she will be able to make it. Do it gently and not in a bitchy way because after all her family member just died.

    As for the two party girls...maybe that is their way of dealing with the loss of their/your friend. Like a PPs has said, Give them a deadline for the dresses and if they don't order them by that date then they give em the boot. But if you are fed up with their bull and honestly no longer wish for them to be in your wedding or be your friend, then just tell them how you feel about it. I can understand them greiveing the loss, but lying to your face about it is wrong and screwed up.

    About the gay bridal attendant. If he is your best friend and you want him in the wedding, ask him to be in it. It ain't your in-laws wedding. It is yours and your FIs. If FI is ok with it, then do it.

    Extremely sorry for your loss. I hope your doing okay. I think a memorial to honor her would be a great idea. Good luck!

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  • IDK, I'd dump the two idiot bridesmaids because in short, they are trash. And why have trash standing next to you at your wedding. 

    Plus they aren't real friends. Aren't bridesmaids supposed to be friends?

    I'd feel like sh*t for not inviting the gay best friend to be an attendant from the beginning, and I would beg for his forgiveness for caving to homophobic bigots. 

    My "man of honor" is gay. And while it's nice to hear your FI isn't homophobic, it's not his place to have any say in who your attendants are anyway. If, hypothetically, he was a homophobe and opposed your choice to have a gay attendant, he could suck it up and deal with it. 
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