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Speaking of boobies

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ACLU files suit against Indiana school district for threatening to expel a boy if he continued to wear one of the I <3 Boobies bracelets.

http://www.indystar.com/article/20120207/NEWS02/120207015/-heart-symbol-boobies-bracelet-ban-gets-ACLU-s-attention?odyssey=tab|topnews|text|IndyStar.com

Do you think schools should be able to ban the bracelets or should they be protected as free speech? 

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That's stupid. I saw way worse in 8th grade.  I don't think it's even bad enough to need the whole "free speech" protection.
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Okay - well, without reading the article, I think it's kind of stupid to threaten to expel the kid.  When I was in school, we weren't allowed to wear certain things to school because of a dress code - spaghetti strap tank tops, snap bracelets, any kind of hat or bandana, shirts with inappropriate words/sayings on them, etc.  If we did wear those things we were asked to cover up, turn the shirt inside out or go home.  So uh.... I would think the appropriate course of action here would be to ask the child to not wear the bracelet.
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I think they tried that, AATB.  But he's refusing to stop wearing it, so they're going to expel him IF he continues to wear it.

I wonder if the school would be acting differently if it was a female student wearing the bracelet.  Or someone whose mom had died of breast cancer.
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This reminded me that the high school I attended didn't allow students to wear Hooters t-shirts. There was no "dress code" except that anything deemed profane (like fuuck written on a shirt) was banned. Girls could wear the most skimpy, skanky, slutty outfits and there was no policy on that, but god forbid someone wear a Hooters t-shirt. It was weird.

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When I was in middle school and high school, we weren't allowed to wear "billabong" brand clothes (does that even still exist?) because it said "bong" on them. This reminds me of that. Really silly if you ask me, and I feel like there are bigger battles schools should be focusing on besides a bracelet.

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Then the school should definitely pick their battles.  He's wearing a pink bracelet with the word "boobies" on it, not a shirt with real boobies all over the front.
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I think it's been pretty much established by the SCOTUS that free speech doesn't really apply to students on school property. I don't remember the cases of the top of my head though. Students don't really have any protection from the search and seizure laws while on school property either. 

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Although I will say it's lame they wont just let the kid wear his bracelet. I'm sure all this nonsense is a much bigger distraction than the kid just wearing the bracelet. 

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I think it's been pretty much established by the SCOTUS that free speech doesn't really apply to students on school property. I don't remember the cases of the top of my head though. Students don't really have any protection from the search and seizure laws while on school property either
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I remember in HS people flipping out whenever the cops would bring the drug dogs to campus.  (You knew, because they'd make an announcement telling the teachers not to allow any students to leave the classrooms.) 

Seriously? You're dumb enough to bring your weed (or whatever) to school? And leave it in your locker? Then you're dumb enough to get busted.
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I agree with Anna. It's technically within the rights of the school to limit free speech but this whole situation is causing more drama and distraction than any bracelet ever would. 

I hope the bracelet isn't pink or else that kid better hide from SGK! 
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IMO, the kid wants to wear the bracelet b/c it says boobies on it.  I doubt he gives 2 flips about breast cancer awareness at his age.  He could always wear one of the plain pink bracelets if he wanted to show his support for breast cancer awareness, but he probably wouldn't do that because it's not as cool.

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In Response to Re: Speaking of boobies:
IMO, the kid wants to wear the bracelet b/c it says boobies on it.  I doubt he gives 2 flips about breast cancer awareness at his age.  He could always wear one of the plain pink bracelets if he wanted to show his support for breast cancer awareness, but he probably wouldn't do that because it's not as cool. /end rant
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In Response to Re: Speaking of boobies:
I think they tried that, AATB.  But he's refusing to stop wearing it, so they're going to expel him IF he continues to wear it. I wonder if the school would be acting differently if it was a female student wearing the bracelet.  Or someone whose mom had died of breast cancer.
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My sister got in trouble for wearing the same bracelet in her high school. She wasn't expelled, but she was told that she couldnt' wear it during school. Cos it said boobies. And boobies are the debil.

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OMG, Alli!  How do people respond in public when he wears that?    I'm imagining a bunch of little old ladies give you the o.O.

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He just grew into the right size to wear it, so we'll see soon!

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In Response to Re: Speaking of boobies:
IMO, the kid wants to wear the bracelet b/c it says boobies on it.  I doubt he gives 2 flips about breast cancer awareness at his age.  He could always wear one of the plain pink bracelets if he wanted to show his support for breast cancer awareness, but he probably wouldn't do that because it's not as cool. /end rant
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I agree with this. Unless the kid had someone close to him die of breast cancer, my guess is he's wearing it for the word boobies. He needs to just take it off and adhere to the school's rules.

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My daughter is a senior in HS and I assure you that a lot of the kids she goes to school with are much more socially concious than you might think.  These kids stand up for what they believe in.  At her school not only did they lobby to allow these bracelets they also began fundraising efforts for cancer research as an exchange for the approval.  They have held two dances, a silent auction and in May are doing a fun run. 

Even if he is just wearing it because it says boobies on it I think he has the right to do so. 
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Dot (sorry for this threadjack errybody) I've been meaning to ask you - how have you been doing?
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I agree with Sesh and Duds.   a lot of our kiddos wear them and its always boys and its all about getting a rise out of someone.  We don't force the kids to take them off, I know other schools who do.

Children in school do not have a lot of rights that adults in public do, as Anna said. So the kid doesn't have a right to free speech it violates a school rule.

This like a lot of others stories you read about kids getting expelled or teaches reprimanded aren't about the actual bracelet or hanging a flag in a classroom or hugging but they are about insubornation.  The student is defying a rule, not doing what he is asked and is being punished for defiance.

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My daughter is a senior in HS and I assure you that a lot of the kids she goes to school with are much more socially concious than you might think.  These kids stand up for what they believe in.  At her school not only did they lobby to allow these bracelets they also began fundraising efforts for cancer research as an exchange for the approval.  They have held two dances, a silent auction and in May are doing a fun run.  Even if he is just wearing it because it says boobies on it I think he has the right to do so. 
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They worked with the administration to find a way to accomplish what they wanted. That is very adult of them and goes to show they cared about the cause, not just the boobie bracelet.

From what I've read, it sounds like the kid in the article I referenced got an answer he didn't like and found a way to get a lawsuit involved instead of trying other ways to approach it.


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In Response to Re: Speaking of boobies : They worked with the administration to find a way to accomplish what they wanted. That is very adult of them and goes to show they cared about the cause, not just the boobie bracelet. From what I've read, it sounds like the kid in the article I referenced got an answer he didn't like and found a way to get a lawsuit involved instead of trying other ways to approach it.
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It's not against free speech if the terms or words are deemed offensive by the school officials. They used to ban Ban Johnson and Simpsons t-shirts in my middle school all the time.

If the school doesn't allow it, the students can choose a different way to express themselves and their cause. If they care enough about the cause, they'll find other ways. Wearing bracelets doesn't do much. Hold a bake sale, instead.

FWIW... I'm ALL about not sheltering kids from words like boobies, but I'm also really big on following harmless rules.
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At my school, the administration's stance was it was fine for students to wear them as long as it doesn't become a distraction or interfere with the learning environment in any way. I'm the advisor for the paper, and the staff actually did an article on this last year when the bracelets first came out, and some area schools were not allowing them.

I do agree, though, that even for our students, I know most of them were just wearing it because of the word. They laughed about it and especially liked it when they thought the administration might disapprove. Honestly, after our article came out and they found out administration was like "Go ahead and wear them," I saw less and less students wearing them. Nowadays, hardly anyone at our schools wears them. I'm sure there are students like Dot said who do actually care about the cause and wear them for a reason. But in the majority of cases I've witnessed, they just like the word and possibly the thought of "rebelling" against the administration. Either way, I don't see it as a huge deal and think they should be allowed to wear them.


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