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The Wedding from Hell - Please don't do this crap to your friends

Hi all!  I'm taking a break from my knot posting pause to share my recap from a wedding I went to recently.  I'd alluded to this upcoming wedding in a couple of my other posts, and it wound up being far worse than I had even feared.  This was hands down the worst wedding that I've ever been to, and the etiquette violations were nearly too numerous to count.  I'm sharing this story in the hopes that (1) it will dissuade other brides from making the same mistakes, and (2)  it will entertain those of you who are already married and held well-hosted weddings.

Without further adieu, I give you the story of the greatest trainwreck of an event I have ever attended:

-This wedding took place at a camp in the middle of nowhere, way up north in the mountains.  B & G were going for a rustic, outdoorsy, "quirky," unique event.  They "encouraged" people to stay in cabins at the camp with them for the weekend.  In late September.  The cabins had no heat, electricity, or running water.  We were assured before we went that because the cabins came equipped with heavy blankets and wood stoves and/or fireplaces, it would not be too cold and we would be fine to sleep up there.  This was bullshit.  It got down to the mid 30s at night and there was NO fireplace in our cabin (other cabins apparently did have fireplaces but even a fire can only do so much on a cold night).  We and everyone else who stayed there froze our asses off for two nights.  Everyone was miserable by the time it was time to leave.

-For the privilege of staying in these freezing cold uninsulated cabins, we PAID B & G.  B & G rented out the whole venue/camp and asked guests to reimburse them for the cabins that they stayed in.  Based on the camp's website, it appears HIGHLY likely that we were reimbursing them for not only the cabins, but for the meals that the camp provided while we stayed up there: including their wedding dinner.

-We were asked to bring a pie for a "pie swap" for dessert, because "pie is better than cake."  Apparently even the B & G know that line is bullshit, because it turns out there WAS a cake to cut.  But it was a small one and it was only for B & G and their families.  The rest of us were stuck eating (or not eating) the random pies people had brought that had been sitting around the camp for two days.

-We were asked to bring makings for a cocktail for the cocktail hour.  So in addition for paying for our cabins/food/pie, we provided liquor for the wedding as well.  Beer and wine were supposedly to be provided by B & G, but the ONE keg that they bought for the 90 people there ran out by the end of Friday night (shocking), so some wedding guests who went in to town bought some more beer for the reception Saturday.  So far as I know they were never reimbursed.

-There were chairs for maybe 30 people out of 90 for the ceremony.  Everyone else had to stand or sit on blankets that had been spread on the ground.  Note to brides who think guests sitting on blankets fits their "vision": nobody wants to sit on blankets on the ground at a wedding.  People stood rather than sat on ratty blankets.

-But here's the kicker that tops EVERYTHING: after all of that rudeness and discomfort, WE DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SEE THEIR ACTUAL WEDDING.  The officiant that B wanted to use apparently couldn't legally marry them in the state where the event took place, so an hour before their "wedding ceremony," they had a JP legally marry them with only their immediate family present.  We froze our assess off and spent tons of money on lodging, food, pies, and liquor to watch the world's freshest vow renewal.  They never told their guests that this was happening, but people found out about this and were FURIOUS.

B & G seemed over the moon happy and probably think they had an awesome wedding.  They did not.  They are going to lose friendships over this event.  In addition to all of the snark we heard spoken behind B & G's back all weekend, we've spoken to several other guests since the event took place, and everybody feels really hurt and confused as to why they were treated so rudely by their friends.  So please, future brides, I am begging you: do NOT pull this crap.  It is not cute, or quirky, or unique.  It is rude, and even if your guests don't say anything to you, they will feel that you've treated them horribly, and they will be right.
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Re: The Wedding from Hell - Please don't do this crap to your friends

  • I remember you alluding to a lot of this stuff!

    Holy crap!

    I can't decide what's worse... the PPD element or the fact that the guests funded the entire wedding. What selfish sons of bitches. 
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  • But if you knew about all this ahead of time (minus the JOP) why did you go?
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  • KatWAG said:
    But if you knew about all this ahead of time (minus the JOP) why did you go?

    Not my choice--it was a very close friend of DHs.  There was no way he was missing it, and I wasn't going to make him suffer through it alone.  Plus the only things we really knew about beforehand were the "pie swap" and cocktail hour.  Everything else we found out while we were up there or afterward.
  • KatWAG said:
    But if you knew about all this ahead of time (minus the JOP) why did you go?

    Not my choice--it was a very close friend of DHs.  There was no way he was missing it, and I wasn't going to make him suffer through it alone.  Plus the only things we really knew about beforehand were the "pie swap" and cocktail hour.  Everything else we found out while we were up there or afterward.
    And how far away it was. And a simple google search could have told you what the cabins would be like.
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  • KatWAG said:
    KatWAG said:
    But if you knew about all this ahead of time (minus the JOP) why did you go?

    Not my choice--it was a very close friend of DHs.  There was no way he was missing it, and I wasn't going to make him suffer through it alone.  Plus the only things we really knew about beforehand were the "pie swap" and cocktail hour.  Everything else we found out while we were up there or afterward.
    And how far away it was. And a simple google search could have told you what the cabins would be like.

    We did our research.  We knew that the cabins had no electricity or running water.  We did not know that they were uninsulated or that our cabin would have no fireplace (in fact we were told that it would have one.)

    We were (or at least DH was) willing to overlook the etiquette violations that we knew about because this was a very good friend of DHs.  It wound up being way worse than what we even knew.  DH now feels like crap about the whole situation and is seriously reevaluating his friendship.

  • ugh yuck! I would have had a hard time agreeing to go to that one, but I understand feeling the obligation with it being a close friend of DH's. I wouldn't have the balls to say anything to them about it but I know I would sure want to
  • WOW what did they pay for? I wouldn't have stayed in or paid for the cabins.. I would have taken a piece of cake since I hate pie.. once the booze ran out I would have been like:image


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  • That sounds miserable. I hope you didn't also give them a gift!
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    jenna8984 said:
    gaaaaaaaaaaah the worst part is that I can picture the B&G now bragging for years about how their wedding was so unique and awesome, and posting on all sorts of budget websites about how they had this great wedding and saved money on food, dessert, drinks, etc. I would almost have the gall to ask them for my lodging money back since you were promised a fireplace and didn't receive one (obviously for heating reasons, not because you wanted ambiance) but I probably would have found a Motel 6 after night one.
    YES!!!!!  I can just see this girl looking down her nose at our wedding budget, thinking that it was RIDICULOUS that we spent thousands of dollars, and "that's so tacky and unnecessary and you can have a beautiful wedding for so much less."  News flash to her: your wedding cost thousands of dollars too.  You just didn't pay for it.

    I totally get the comments asking about why we didn't go in the first place, why didn't we leave early, why didn't we say something to the couple, etc. etc.  A couple of people in real life that I've told the story to have been disgusted and said that they really hoped we didn't leave them a gift.  I would probably be saying the same thing if I heard this story.  But it's one thing to say those things in abstract.  It's another thing when you're facing it in real life and your only real options are essentially either to suck it up and deal or to affirmatively end a friendship with someone you've been close to for 15+ years.  
  • This "camp wedding" seems to be a thing in New England. I know sooooo many people who did this, including my own cousin a few years ago in Vermont. BUT at least that wedding was in July (no problem with unheated cabins), and there was no "bring your own booze and pie", and we all got to see the actual ceremony, complete with a seat for every ass. WTF?
  • edited September 2015
    I'd cross post this to Etiquette as well ;-)



    -But here's the kicker that tops EVERYTHING: after all of that rudeness and discomfort, WE DIDN'T EVEN GET TO SEE THEIR ACTUAL WEDDING.  The officiant that B wanted to use apparently couldn't legally marry them in the state where the event took place, so an hour before their "wedding ceremony," they had a JP legally marry them with only their immediate family present.  We froze our assess off and spent tons of money on lodging, food, pies, and liquor to watch the world's freshest vow renewal.  They never told their guests that this was happening, but people found out about this and were FURIOUS.

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    So I'm just curious, since this was probably one of the shittiest shitshows of fuckery ever. . . are you going to say anything to the couple?  Assuming you ever see them again after this fiasco, and they mention their wedding or ask you directly how you liked it. . . what would you say?

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  • I'm just curious if your DH will actually mention anything to the groom ever. 
  • jenna8984 said:
    gaaaaaaaaaaah the worst part is that I can picture the B&G now bragging for years about how their wedding was so unique and awesome, and posting on all sorts of budget websites about how they had this great wedding and saved money on food, dessert, drinks, etc. I would almost have the gall to ask them for my lodging money back since you were promised a fireplace and didn't receive one (obviously for heating reasons, not because you wanted ambiance) but I probably would have found a Motel 6 after night one.
    yep.

    Having a cake and punch reception in the afternoon saves money.  Deferring your costs to your guest does not save money.  Well it saves the couple money, but the money is still being spent, just not by them.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 

  • KatWAG said:




    KatWAG said:

    But if you knew about all this ahead of time (minus the JOP) why did you go?


    Not my choice--it was a very close friend of DHs.  There was no way he was missing it, and I wasn't going to make him suffer through it alone.  Plus the only things we really knew about beforehand were the "pie swap" and cocktail hour.  Everything else we found out while we were up there or afterward.

    And how far away it was. And a simple google search could have told you what the cabins would be like.




    We did our research.  We knew that the cabins had no electricity or running water.  We did not know that they were uninsulated or that our cabin would have no fireplace (in fact we were told that it would have one.)

    We were (or at least DH was) willing to overlook the etiquette violations that we knew about because this was a very good friend of DHs.  It wound up being way worse than what we even knew.  DH now feels like crap about the whole situation and is seriously reevaluating his friendship.



    I should hope so!
  • sarahufl said:

    That sounds miserable. I hope you didn't also give them a gift!

    I'm sure it's already been returned to pay for the honeymoon
  • banana468 said:
    I'm just curious if your DH will actually mention anything to the groom ever. 

    That's a really good question, and I'm honestly not sure.  My DH is an extremely loyal friend.  Exceptionally loyal.  His closest friends have been his closest friends literally since childhood.  He prides himself on this loyalty and on being there for his friends through thick and thin.  To use this wedding as an example, he is NOT an outdoorsman at all and is not comfortable camping.  But he was determined to stay in the cabins, even though he's not a camper and we were freezing cold, because there is no way he wouldn't be there for his buddy's wedding.

    But this whole event really has him shaken.  I think he feels really sad that he was treated so poorly, and he is struggling to understand why his friend would treat him this way because DH would NEVER treat one of his friends like this. I think some of it can be chalked up to the fact that this G is pretty socially naive and probably not at all familiar with traditional etiquette rules, and all indications are that many if not all of these decisions were made by B.  But it's 2015.  G doesn't get a free pass for a poorly planned wedding just because he happens to be the owner of a Y chromosome.  Even so, I think it's highly unlikely DH will ever say anything.  I think it's more likely that he'll call it water under the bridge and we'll just find an excuse to dodge any other social event that this couple plans.  Ever.


  • KatWAG said:
    KatWAG said:
    But if you knew about all this ahead of time (minus the JOP) why did you go?

    Not my choice--it was a very close friend of DHs.  There was no way he was missing it, and I wasn't going to make him suffer through it alone.  Plus the only things we really knew about beforehand were the "pie swap" and cocktail hour.  Everything else we found out while we were up there or afterward.
    And how far away it was. And a simple google search could have told you what the cabins would be like.

    We did our research.  We knew that the cabins had no electricity or running water.  We did not know that they were uninsulated or that our cabin would have no fireplace (in fact we were told that it would have one.)

    We were (or at least DH was) willing to overlook the etiquette violations that we knew about because this was a very good friend of DHs.  It wound up being way worse than what we even knew.  DH now feels like crap about the whole situation and is seriously reevaluating his friendship.

    What?! And you still went?

    Oh hell no!  Not for my husband/FI/BF, nope, not even for Jesus.  That medieval shit is for children stuck at summer camp not for adults at a wedding in September.  DH/FI would have been suffering alone on that one!

    I feel exactly the same way, I "camp" at horse shows all the time our horse trailer has, AC/Heat/running hot water/fridge/microwave/grill.. this is about as close to "roughing it" as it gets..
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  • @ryanandjoe4- quarter horse shows?

    @ShesSoCold LMFAO

    Yeah ladies, the only camping I do now is Glamping with a G.  I need a cabin with beds and AC/heat,  running HOT water and a flushing toilet and a kitchen, etc.  And I LOVE me some fireplaces.

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  • ryanandjoe4ryanandjoe4 member
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    @ryanandjoe4- quarter horse shows?

    @ShesSoCold LMFAO

    Yeah ladies, the only camping I do now is Glamping with a G.  I need a cabin with beds and AC/heat,  running HOT water and a flushing toilet and a kitchen, etc.  And I LOVE me some fireplaces.
    PrettyGirlLost yes, I am actually sad my wedding is during congress, didn't think this through! lol My mom runs a large show barn here in Cincinnati, but Palomino shows too, not as political, or big... I have a 17 year old horse that I raised and trained from birth. I am looking at a 2 year old this week... but with being wedding poor as I call it (just spent a ton of $ in our eyes don't want to spend more, much less 5-10K for a horse even if he is PERFECT)


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  • Yeah, I used to get paid to camp without electricity and running water - that crap don't happen anymore.  Nada.  Truth be known though we had generators and water buffalos so even though we couldn't shower out there, we did have access to some water.

    In all honesty, I would have dug my heels in and said I would get a hotel room but I am not paying to stay in a place with no electricity and no running water.  I'm sorry your DH is so bummed and you guys had to go through this.

  •  We were assured before we went that because the cabins came equipped with heavy blankets and wood stoves and/or fireplaces, it would not be too cold and we would be fine to sleep up there.  This was bullshit.  It got down to the mid 30s at night and there was NO fireplace in our cabin (other cabins apparently did have fireplaces but even a fire can only do so much on a cold night).
    On mobile, can't bold, so just cut part of it.

    So yea, this whole thing is crazy and rude, but fireplaces give a lot more heat than you think. If you'd had one, you would have been toasty. I'm from Alaska. I know a ton of people who use fireplaces or wood stoves to heat their whole multi-bedroom home in -40 F temperatures. How do you think people stayed warm before electricity and gas/oil burning stoves?
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     We were assured before we went that because the cabins came equipped with heavy blankets and wood stoves and/or fireplaces, it would not be too cold and we would be fine to sleep up there.  This was bullshit.  It got down to the mid 30s at night and there was NO fireplace in our cabin (other cabins apparently did have fireplaces but even a fire can only do so much on a cold night).
    On mobile, can't bold, so just cut part of it. So yea, this whole thing is crazy and rude, but fireplaces give a lot more heat than you think. If you'd had one, you would have been toasty. I'm from Alaska. I know a ton of people who use fireplaces or wood stoves to heat their whole multi-bedroom home in -40 F temperatures. How do you think people stayed warm before electricity and gas/oil burning stoves?
    Ditto being from Alaska (I moved to Cali when I was 24). My father would FLIP if we ever touched the thermostat in the winter because of the energy cost. So fireplace it was. Even in California it gets cold at night in the wintertime and we have a wood stove in our 2-story townhouse. Just a couple of logs is enough to heat the entire place for the whole night.

    But I still would have been pissed if in the OP's shoes.
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  • KatWAG said:
    KatWAG said:
    But if you knew about all this ahead of time (minus the JOP) why did you go?

    Not my choice--it was a very close friend of DHs.  There was no way he was missing it, and I wasn't going to make him suffer through it alone.  Plus the only things we really knew about beforehand were the "pie swap" and cocktail hour.  Everything else we found out while we were up there or afterward.
    And how far away it was. And a simple google search could have told you what the cabins would be like.

    We did our research.  We knew that the cabins had no electricity or running water.  We did not know that they were uninsulated or that our cabin would have no fireplace (in fact we were told that it would have one.)

    We were (or at least DH was) willing to overlook the etiquette violations that we knew about because this was a very good friend of DHs.  It wound up being way worse than what we even knew.  DH now feels like crap about the whole situation and is seriously reevaluating his friendship.

    What?! And you still went?

    Oh hell no!  Not for my husband/FI/BF, nope, not even for Jesus.  That medieval shit is for children stuck at summer camp not for adults at a wedding in September.  DH/FI would have been suffering alone on that one!

    This.  And knowing my DH he wouldn't have even suggested I come along.  He knows me and know that my ass does not camp, unless I am in a fancy ass cabin with all the wonderful amenities that 2015 gives us.

  • I'd go camping for one night, maybe two, but not for a wedding. No running water and electricity means you guys weren't glammed up for the wedding. So everyone went to the reception stinky, even the bride and groom? I don't even understand this.
    yea I was thinking about this part this morning, did they have camp showers or something so people could shower and get ready??
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