Cosmo does the unthinkable...

vegasgroom

I don't have confirmation on which company it is, but if I had to make an educated guess, you all know who it would be, so, with that being said, as of April 2012 Cosmo no longer allows outside photography on the property.  WTF is wrong with these places.

SuperStew

Ohhh NOOOOO! We all live for photos at that beautiful chandelier bar!!! I'm so sad to hear this!

caper18

Seriously?!  I had my heart set on some pictures there. Screw you Cosmo. Guess I won't spend any money on your property either. 

...Maybe we can still try to sneak some in?

mizutamababy

Seriously Cashman's stuff must cost an arm and a leg just for the sake they have to use so much of their money to bribe these ridic hotel exclusive deals.

I mean you said the article didn't name what company but I doubt it'd be someone random.

FrankensteinsGirl

easullins

WTH?  Figures this would happen just before I get there.  I guess I need to re-think my strip tour. 

Vireyda

I was so crushed when Mike L mentioned it on facebook yesterday.  I was so looking forward to doing first look photos there... 

nycheryl

Yeah, it was one of our two stops on our planned photo tour.  However, Mike L and Courtney can make pretty much anything look awesome, so I'm not super concerned.  It would have been nice, but, honestly, it's their (Cosmo's) loss.  It is great (free) PR, IMHO, for a hotel to have wedding photos taken there.

ETA: Now I need to figure out where we're going to take our pics.  Crap.  LOL.

lsvensson

BOOO that was going to be my big stop on our photo tour.  VG, how'd you find this out?

wrigleyville

It wouldn't be so bad if Cashman didn't a) suck and b) charge so much.

It's like McDonald's forcing their way into exclusive catering contracts at all of the venues.

vegasgroom

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[QUOTE] VG, how'd you find this out?
Posted by lsvensson[/QUOTE]

Mike L's facebook; I guess he ran into trouble with them.

nycheryl

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[QUOTE]It wouldn't be so bad if Cashman didn't a) suck and b) charge so much. It's like McDonald's forcing their way into exclusive catering contracts at all of the venues.
Posted by wrigleyville[/QUOTE]


LOL, good comparison!  And we missed you! :)

SuperStew

I certainly hope this doesn't start marking it's way to the other casinos as well! and YAY!--The Wrigleyville whit is back!

SD210

Didn't someone recently post that a Cosmo bouncer took her photographer's camera away and started deleting pictures during her photo tour?  Seriously, that alone is enough reason to avoid the Cosmo.

I was at the Cosmo last weekend and the gaming tables were empty and dead.  The young hip club going crowd that Cosmo is trying to attract is not gambling there.... so why alienate another group of people (wedding people) you also happen to be bringing groups of friends with them into hotels to gamble / drink /  eat.  Seems like a stupid move to me!

wrigleyville

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Cosmo does the unthinkable... : LOL, good comparison!  And we missed you! :)
Posted by nycheryl[/QUOTE]
Missed you too! I'm so glad I came back in time to see you and Lsvensson get married. I was sort of worried I missed the AW threads. I thought your weddings were in April, not May.

vegasgroom

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[QUOTE] I was at the Cosmo last weekend and the gaming tables were empty and dead.  The young hip club going crowd that Cosmo is trying to attract is not gambling there.... so why alienate another group of people (wedding people) you also happen to be bringing groups of friends with them into hotels to gamble / drink /  eat.  Seems like a stupid move to me!
Posted by SD210[/QUOTE]

It's amazing how stupid some of the business decisions are that resorts make.  The wedding industry is a cash cow, whether you're providing services, or just courting weddings knowing that having an extra 50 or 100 rooms booked makes business sense; but instead, lets alienate the group.  If someone wants to loan me a billion or so, I'll start a new Vegas resort that is run the right way. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />

xtanne12386

Wow, glad I got mine outta the way. I ran into a problem at bellagio outside, a lady was like " u can't have an outside photographer, what company do you work for?"..good thing Keith was wearing very casual clothes, I was like "he's my uncle, and has a nice camera, we really can't take pics?" she kinda hesitated and walked away. So why not just do it.

SD210

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Cosmo does the unthinkable... : It's amazing how stupid some of the business decisions are that resorts make.  The wedding industry is a cash cow, whether you're providing services, or just courting weddings knowing that having an extra 50 or 100 rooms booked makes business sense; but instead, lets alienate the group.  <strong>If someone wants to loan me a billion or so, I'll start a new Vegas resort that is run the right way.</strong>
Posted by vegasgroom[/QUOTE]

Maybe Steve Wynn can hire you to come run the Casino he wants to build up here in Massachusetts!  <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />  But photography is an important portion of a wedding for a lot of people. Honestly, the reason I canceled my appointment with the Wedding Salon at Wynn was that we would have been required to use Cashman in the Ballroom for the reception - no thanks!  I told them that was why, too.

nycheryl

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Cosmo does the unthinkable... : Missed you too! I'm so glad I came back in time to see you and Lsvensson get married. I was sort of worried I missed the AW threads. I thought your weddings were in April, not May.
Posted by wrigleyville[/QUOTE]


Don't worry - plenty of AWing coming your way soon!  I think we have four regulars with weddings that weekend :)

And I'd totally stay at your hotel, VG!  I'm guessing the casino would only have $1 craps?  Gggyeahhh!

petitmonstree

This kind of makes me sad. I didn't plan on taking photos there but I'm sad that the other casinos might start getting the same idea.

wrigleyville

If Cashman gets its claws into too many properties during the next year, we're going to end up doing our First Look at 7-11. 

This is so irritating.

petitmonstree

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[QUOTE]If Cashman gets its claws into too many properties during the next year, we're going to end up doing our First Look at 7-11.  This is so irritating.
Posted by wrigleyville[/QUOTE]

<div>I know I shouldn't laugh but I really thought this was funny lol. xD</div>

wrigleyville

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Cosmo does the unthinkable... : I know I shouldn't laugh but I really thought this was funny lol. xD
Posted by petitmonstree[/QUOTE]
Don't feel bad. It was supposed to be a joke. ;)

nycheryl

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[QUOTE]If Cashman gets its claws into too many properties during the next year, we're going to end up doing our First Look at 7-11.  This is so irritating.
Posted by wrigleyville[/QUOTE]


Mike and Courtney actually did a really fun shoot at In-N-Out Burger.  I'm sure you'd look hawt in your dress next to the hot dog roller thing :P

vegasgroom

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[QUOTE]And I'd totally stay at your hotel, VG!  I'm guessing the casino would only have $1 craps?  Gggyeahhh!
Posted by nycheryl[/QUOTE]

Well lets not get crazy, $3 craps so the staff can calculate the payouts easier. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />

nycheryl

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Cosmo does the unthinkable... : Well lets not get crazy, $3 craps so the staff can calculate the payouts easier.
Posted by vegasgroom[/QUOTE]


Fair enough :)  I'd take a $3 table any day!  Is there anywhere on the south strip you'd recommend for craps?  I normally play at Excalibur since it generally cheaper than the other big casinos...

I'd be up for taking suggestions anywhere on the strip, but probably will stay south if I only have an hour to play.

vegasgroom

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Cosmo does the unthinkable... : Fair enough :)  I'd take a $3 table any day!  Is there anywhere on the south strip you'd recommend for craps?  I normally play at Excalibur since it generally cheaper than the other big casinos... I'd be up for taking suggestions anywhere on the strip, but probably will stay south if I only have an hour to play.
Posted by nycheryl[/QUOTE]

Yeah Excalibur actually is pretty consistent on having $5 craps so its a good place to go if you want MLife credit for your play too.  Tropicana across the street is also a good option.

wrigleyville

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Cosmo does the unthinkable... : Mike and Courtney actually did a really fun shoot at In-N-Out Burger.  I'm sure you'd look hawt in your dress next to the hot dog roller thing :P
Posted by nycheryl[/QUOTE]
In-N-Out is on our must-take photo list, actually. :) We freaking LOVE In-N-Out. Whenever we go to CA to visit our friends, we try to eat there every day.

I'd have them cater our reception if it were a) possible and b) wouldn't send my mother into a pearl-clutching fit.

JoeyA_VP

They may have officially set a no-photographer policy in April 2012, but they were already blocking outside photography to some degree last year because I found that security barred photography inside Cosmo back in September 2011.

If you really don't approve of the anti-outside-photographer transition, maybe you can petition for limitation of the contracts that enforce the monopoly of a single photo entity on resort grounds.  Otherwise, the pattern will continue.

vegasgroom

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[QUOTE] If you really don't approve of the anti-outside-photographer transition, maybe you can petition for limitation of the contracts that enforce the monopoly of a single photo entity on resort grounds.  Otherwise, the pattern will continue.
Posted by JoeyA_VP[/QUOTE]

That will not likely matter, for several of reasons:

1) The resort most likely has a contract in place with Cashman, or whomever, that states they're the exclusive photographer.  Adding language to a customer's contract to let a third party in would violate the vendor contract.

2) Most casinos wedding staff don't have the pull to get such a change put in.

3) Most people aren't spending enough for the resorts to care, apparently.  We were prepared to spend $60,000+ at Venetian for ceremony and a huge ball room reception, until we were quoted $9000 for all day photography from Cashman; we went elsewhere and told them that's the reason, didn't matter.

Whatever backroom deals Cashman works out with these resorts, it must be pretty impressive because they absolutely care less about what their customers actually want and just stick to the policy.

eviliciouz

What the hell...? .

We are planning to have our reception at Wicked Spoon on September 2013. Do you think they won't let us having our own photographer to take our pictures? Photography didn't come in a package with Wicked Spoon private room deal. So now I'm confused. Gah!