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Police: Trick-or-treaters found Newberry Twp. man who committed suicide

ELIZABETH EVANS The York Dispatch
Updated: 10/29/2010 09:44:37 AM EDT

Children trick-or-treating Thursday at a Newberry Township mobile-home park got a terrible fright when they discovered a man who had committed suicide on his front stoop, police said.

"I'm sure it was very upsetting to the children who saw him -- and to their families," Newberry Township Police Chief John Snyder said. "To me, it's something they're probably going to remember for the rest of their lives. I wish an adult would have found him before the kids did."

Police were called to Lot 113 of the Conewago Valley Mobile Home Park, at 800 York Road, about 6:20 p.m. after the trick-or-treating children found the man and reported it to a neighbor, Snyder said.

The man used a handgun to fatally shoot himself, the chief said; it appeared it was a head wound.

"We don't know when he committed suicide," Snyder said, or how long the man was lying on his stoop.

"I'm confused as to why no one during the day saw it," he said. "I assume people thought he was a (Halloween) decoration. The way he was lying there, you wouldn't have known if he was just taking a nap or if he was a decoration."

Quickly covered: Responding officers covered the man with a sheet as soon as they could and blocked off the area of his home from other trick-or-treaters, Snyder said.

The man was 68 years old, according to the York County Coroner's Office; no autopsy is planned.

"He was very ill ... and he didn't want to go to a hospital or a (nursing) home," Snyder said. "I just wish he'd have done it somewhere else. When people commit suicide, they don't think about the people around them -- they only think about themselves. It's one of the most selfish things you can do."

There was only a small amount of blood visible at the scene, the chief said; the man wasn't really visible from the street so it's likely not too many children saw him.

"Don't get me wrong -- it's still not a good thing for children to see," he said.

Gun: The handgun was still on the stoop, half hidden between the man's legs, according to Snyder.

"Unless you looked for it, you wouldn't have seen it," he said.

Snyder said the man lived alone and, based on the inside of his home, was a very clean, tidy person. That might have contributed to the man's decision not to kill himself inside his trailer, the chief said.

Snyder said because the man was found shortly after trick-or-treat started, it limited the number of children exposed to the scene.

"That's some consolation," he said, adding that officers spoke with the children who did witness the suicide scene.

"We did our best to talk to them," Snyder said. "It was bad timing all around."

 

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And a conversation starter: WDYT of the Police Chief's using this interview as a way to preach about how selfish suicide is? Maybe-kinda a good message, or wrong time and place for a teaching moment?

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    loveshine1loveshine1 member
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    zsazsa-stlzsazsa-stl member
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    And that, kids, is why you don't go trick-or-treating three days early.
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    ReturnOfKuusReturnOfKuus member
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    It kinda makes the Futurama suicide booths look like a good idea, huh?
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    baconsmombaconsmom member
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    Well, I don't agree that suicide is selfish. I mean, yeah, people miss you, yadda yadda, but to say that a suicidal person doesn't think about people he's leaving? It's not true. We just assume that they'll be better off without us. Maybe that is selfish, I don't know. We're not doing it for attention, asshat. 
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    HeffalumpHeffalump member
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    Yeah, unless he's a trained clinical psychologist or a licensed psychiatrist, I think Chief Snyder needs to STFU.
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    ReturnOfKuusReturnOfKuus member
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    I think it's very selfish in that someone has to find the body, as we just saw.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_horrifying?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:0d85f765-8722-4239-8b44-26b07009c374Post:1a945fdf-a4e4-4d88-a5a0-0eb9d77e3711">Re: horrifying</a>:
    [QUOTE]I think it's very selfish in that someone has to find the body, as we just saw.
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    On that level, being mortal is selfish.  We gotta go some time.
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    InksWellInksWell member
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    I think the description of suicide as "selfish" is more because the victim commits a final solution to their own problems at the cost of their loved one's grief, not just because someone else has to find the body. They basically leave their issues for their family to clean up, figuratively and literally, while they avoid those consequences. Especially if they are young. I don't feel like all suicides are selfish, though. That't just the rational I've heard.

    But I think in the case of the elderly/ill, they rationalize that their loved one's are already experiencing grief on their behalf, so I doubt this man was "selfish". He probably thought it would spare his family from taking care of him and the grief of watching him slowly deteriorate. I hope he didn't know that kid's were trick or treating though, because that would have been a jerk move.
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