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So, E, what do you think? (Got long, sorry)

This weekend I attended a wedding of a relative I see very rarely.  Less than once a year, generally.  We don't speak in between, either.  By blood we're close, but obviously we do not have a close relationship.  I mostly keep up with his doings via my grandma or my mom.

When I arrived at the wedding, I saw him and he already had his wedding ring on.  I remarked on it and his dad said "well, technically they are already married..."  So that's how I found out it was a wedding redo.  You know me, I was irritated.  Those don't sit well with me.

The story is that they "had" to get married two months ago.  Her lease was up and it was time for them to find a place to live together.  However, she didn't want to live alone and but they also didn't want to live together before they got married.  So they had a small, family only ceremony and kept the original wedding plans for the redo.

Here's where the "WWED" part comes in.  We got our invitation really late due to a wrong address.  Since we didn't get the invitation until a couple of weeks before the wedding, I assumed we weren't invited and didn't get a gift.  Once we got the invitation, I was so busy that I didn't have time to take care of it.  I figured I'd do it next week when work calms down and I have some time.

Now that I know it was a redo and I didn't get invited to the actual wedding, I don't really want to give a gift.  Had I known ahead of time I would have just brought a card.  Would it be strange to mail a card now, after the fact, that is just a card?  Or do I need to suck it up and send a small gift anyway?

As an aside, the redo was exactly like a wedding.  "Who gives this woman," "Today I take you to be my wife," the whole nine yards.  I'll be honest, it really bugged.  The bride and groom also looked extremely bored - during the vows, the bride was looking everywhere but at the groom and the look on her face said "get this over with, please."  It was honestly the most boring "wedding" i've ever attended.  It lacked the tension and anticipation that a real wedding has.

Oh, and to further piss me off, the dinner was not vegetarian friendly.  We ended up leaving without eating and stopping for dinner on the way home.
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    As much as I'd be tempted to just send a card, I'd probably find something token-y off their registry and send that with a card.  But I'm a pretty non-rock the boat personalitly.
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    I honestly think what they did was terribly tacky. I would just send a card. and be done with it. As E always says, gifts are never required, so I back that up here. I'm also kind of petty. If you think you family will blow up over you not sending a $20 gift, then maybe it is worth it. 
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    libby2483libby2483 member
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    I would probably send a small gift, even though I wouldn't really want to.  Like a spatula maybe :) Okay, not really, but I would be tempted.  

    Edit: Just to clarify, that is just my personality, as I'm not someone who likes to stir up trouble.  But if you really don't want to, I certainly don't think you are in the wrong if you don't send one.
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    lauraanne9lauraanne9 member
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    I would send the gift you originally intended to send.  You see them rarely, so I am guessing it was not going to be extravagant.  Send the gift, wish them well, and hope their marriage is better than its beginning.

    I understand the whole "redo" issue, but were it me, I would just act like I didn't know and be done with the whole thing.
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    If I hadn't bought a gift already, I probably wouldn't send anything.  But that's just me.

    Other than that, maybe a card with a small giftcard? 
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    I would just get the card. You don't get married to get gifts, so if they expect one from you, shame on them.
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    I would just send a card.  I would be pissed to find out I got invited to do-over instead of the real thing. 
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    DramaGeekDramaGeek member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_so-e-what-do-you-think?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8bf61a5d-05c7-4292-85dc-3a933ed480e2Post:363ac8e7-61c5-4c0a-9c01-b67f3f8defb6">Re: So, E, what do you think? (Got long, sorry)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I would send the gift you originally intended to send.  You see them rarely, so I am guessing it was not going to be extravagant.  Send the gift, wish them well, and hope their marriage is better than its beginning. I understand the whole "redo" issue, but were it me, <strong>I would just act like I didn't know and be done with the whole thing.</strong>
    Posted by lauraanne9[/QUOTE]

    <div>Well, the pastor made cracks about it ("we're gathered here - again - to witness the marriage of these two people" and "I'm proud to introduce for the second time...") so if you didn't know before the ceremony, you certainly would have gotten a clue during it.</div><div>
    </div><div>I don't know if it would cause any friction in the family, to be honest.  If it did, it would hurt my mom more than me since I never see or talk to them. If I do decide to get a gift, I know where they're registered.  They made sure of that when they included a registery card in the invitation.</div><div>
    </div><div>ETA - perhaps this is the perfect time to make a donation in someone's name?  :-P</div>
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    Eh, I would just get them what I originally planned on getting them before knowing the situation. I get the whole wedding re-do is tacky as hell, but sometimes I feel like people can be super judgmental of others situations and will act in a way just to be spiteful... which is just as tacky, if not more, to me. 
    I knew a couple who was set to be married in June. The groom's father lived out of state and ended up with a terminal diagnoses of cancer and wasn't expected to make it until June. The couple flew to Florida and had a small wedding about a month before their actual wedding date. Just their parents and grandparents were present so the groom's father could witness his only son getting married. He ended up passing away about a week before their actual wedding. If someone judged them for that, well, they're just being self righteous jerks at that point. 
    Again, everyone's situation is different. Some people are more judgmental/concerned about things like this than others. Everyone is entitled to their opinion on the matter. I'll probably get flamed for this one but I just think it's tacky to act in a way just out of spite. 
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    There's a world of difference between getting married 2 months before the ceremony to save 2 months' rent and getting married before the ceremony because the groom's dad was dying. There were probably several options for the B&G in the original post. They knew when her lease was going to be up so why didn't they plan ahead?  If the bride didn't want to live alone she could have moved in with a friend or relative (or invited someone to stay with her in the new place) for 8 short weeks until the wedding.

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    meh

    I'd send a card with a smallish gift
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    I really really dislike redos when it's done for convenience. As MrsB said, there is a huge difference between getting married 2 months before the ceremony to save 2 months' rent and getting married before the ceremony because the groom's dad was dying.

    I'd probably send a card and leave it at that. But I'm a brat and I'd probably ask them what date are they celebrating their anniversary -- the real wedding date or the second, pretend one?
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    These posts about redos always remind me of the Fraser episode when Daphne and Niles get married and multiple times and keep each wedding a secret from different people. I lvoe that episode.
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    I'd send them something small. I am also not one to rock the boat too much, and my family remembers things...well...forever. $30 now is worth no grief from the family for years to come :P
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    I'd send them a card and that's it. Like other people have said, E doesn't mandate gifts, and if they expect one and are disappointed, that's their problem, not yours.
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    andrea2473andrea2473 member
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    I don't see how only sending a card is 'rocking the boat'.   A couple posters have said this. .  I mean, if you put a passive-aggressive note in there, that would be rocking the boat.  But just a nice card?  Go for it

    ETA:  Changed phrasing. 
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    While I think what they did was pretty silly, I'd still give them a gift.  Sometimes I send a gift even if I'm not invited to the wedding.  
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_so-e-what-do-you-think?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:8bf61a5d-05c7-4292-85dc-3a933ed480e2Post:0c99139b-55ce-4df6-b099-fbcaf06cb55e">Re: So, E, what do you think? (Got long, sorry)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: So, E, what do you think? (Got long, sorry) : I also send gifts if I'm not invited to the wedding if I WANT to send a gift to the couple.  I don't think wanting to send a gift and not being invited has anything to do with being invited to a do-over PPD where you weren't even properly hosted in order to get a gift out of you and not wanting to give one.
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    I'm not the poster you quoted, but I'm guessing she was saying that she would give the gift based on how she feels about the person rather than whether or not she was invited to the wedding or the nature of the wedding.  I definitely get that--I want to give a gift based on my relationship with the couple, not based on one event. 

    It's hard, because I would definitely be annoyed in this situation, but I also think it's kind of repulsive when people talk about putting cash into the card or filling out the check at the wedding, depending on how fancy the party is.  I wouldn't be giving this couple that large of a gift to begin with, given the relationship, so I would probably send a gift along those lines. 
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    pkontkpkontk member
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    Right now, with our wedding a month away and every spare penny going towards wedding things, I wouldn't send a gift.  I would have planned on getting something small off the registry to begin with, but a pre-marriage of convenience would rub me the wrong way. 
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    DramaGeekDramaGeek member
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    the more I think about it, the more I want to do a donation in their name. If there was something major like an illness that caused this, I think I'd feel differently. This was simply poor planning, or a case of having cake and eating it too two months ago an outdoor wedding wouldn't have happened due to weather, so perhaps it wad planned so they could get married earlier and still have an outdoor "wedding." If I hadn't been invited, I wouldn't have sent anything. If it had all been upfront, I wouldn't have gone or sent a gift, just a card. Even my dad, who is far from an E fiend, said "why didn't they just have a party to celebrate? I don't need to see a redo." He also started calling it their second wedding :P If I send just a card, what the hell do I write? I guess just avoid all mention of their wedding? Thank them for including us in their celebration? I am definitely finding it hard not to be snarky in how I phrase things.
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    Meh. I would send a card in the very least and I would probably send a gift too but it's not required. I just don't get it up to be irritated at these things though.
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    Honestly, I'd just send a nice congratulatory card, and leave it at that.
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    "Congratulations on your marriage!  It was great to celebrate with you, and we hope you have been enjoying being newlyweds."
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    Congrats on your marriage. It was great seeing you and we wish you a lifetime of happiness. I would just do a card, especially for an emotionally distant relative
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_so-e-what-do-you-think?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8bf61a5d-05c7-4292-85dc-3a933ed480e2Post:4a5024c3-e553-41f9-889f-2bc9198d31e2">Re:So, E, what do you think? Got long, sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]the more I think about it, the more I want to do a donation in their name. If there was something major like an illness that caused this, I think I'd feel differently. This was simply poor planning, or a case of having cake and eating it too two months ago an outdoor wedding wouldn't have happened due to weather, so perhaps it wad planned so they could get married earlier and still have an outdoor "wedding." If I hadn't been invited, I wouldn't have sent anything. If it had all been upfront, I wouldn't have gone or sent a gift, just a card. Even my dad, who is far from an E fiend, said "why didn't they just have a party to celebrate? I don't need to see a redo." He also started calling it their second wedding :P <strong>If I send just a card, what the hell do I write?</strong> I guess just avoid all mention of their wedding? Thank them for including us in their celebration? I am definitely finding it hard not to be snarky in how I phrase things.
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    </div><div>'Thanks for inviting us to your theatrical production. I give it however-many stars, and  kudos to the bride and groom for their stellar impersonations of an actual bride and groom.'</div><div>
    </div><div>OK, that's pretty snarky, but tempting. I'd just send a card that says congrats or best wishes. I also love the idea of the donation in their name. But I'm a beyotch sometimes. ; )</div>
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    I would just do a card.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_so-e-what-do-you-think?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:8bf61a5d-05c7-4292-85dc-3a933ed480e2Post:0b5f45d5-ba03-4fe9-a756-4cc4283829ff">Re: So, E, what do you think? (Got long, sorry)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: So, E, what do you think? (Got long, sorry) :   <strong>ETA - perhaps this is the perfect time to make a donation in someone's name?  :-P</strong>
    Posted by DramaGeek[/QUOTE]
    And I know EXACTLY where you can make that donation, if you'd like lol. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><div>
    </div><div>I would totally either make a donation in their name - real or fake, TBH - and send a card. I wouldn't give a gift. I feel the same about re-dos as you do. Not my style. </div>
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    How about buying them a nice star? ;-) www.starregistry.com
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