Catholic Weddings

Denying Communion??

2»

Re: Denying Communion??

  • Catechism 
    [2359  Basing itself on Sacred Scripture, which presents homosexual acts as acts of grave depravity,141 tradition has always declared that "homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered."...

    2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided...]

    The homosexual orientation is disordered.  There's nothing incorrect about that statement.  And it's not insulting to say that.  We all have various disordered orientations--it's called Original Sin!  Everyone's disordered inclinations are different.  

    Of course we are all called to love those with homosexual orientations, just as we are to love all people no matter what sinful inclinations they have.  But loving someone might, in some cases, mean refusing them communion (if you're a priest, an EMHC cannot make that decision), which will only bring more sin on them.


    SaveSave
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_denying-communion?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:615Discussion:073b91ef-1242-44ca-8ee1-bee680a53961Post:dd2c6fac-47b1-492f-b033-8d816a21992e">Re: Denying Communion??</a>:
    [QUOTE]Priests are not and should not be "asexual". Celibate does not equal "asexual". This is an attitude of puritanism that is a heresy.  Sexual attraction is not sinful or wrong. Priests are called (like we all are) to rise above the domination of concupiscience and fully live out their true sexuality.  Consecrated celibates (men and women) do this by becoming spiritual fathers and mothers, loving as a woman or a man to whoever they are around. (Meaning as a daughter, sister, or mother/ son, bro, father). Celibates have not denied or repressed their sexuality, they are living in the next life already. Earthly marriage and the one flesh union is an icon that points us to the trinity-- Consecrated celibates are already accepting that has their reality now...fully living it in this life. Same sex attraction is a disorder...some to varying degrees, just like we all have disorders of one kind or another, to varying degrees. By stating this truth, we are actually reminding ourselves that we all have dignity even higher than we act, and are called to rise up to that. 
    Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]

    I believe that you have shown quite clearly that you are not all together here.  I think it's time for me to drop the reason and logic and just leave.

    Have a good night all!
  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
    First Anniversary 5 Love Its Combo Breaker First Comment
    edited March 2012
    ???   Monkey came in and confirmed what I said...is she "not all together here" either? 

    I just stated the catechism and church teaching. You have given no "logic or reason" My statements are backed up with church teaching. Take it up with the church.
  • The CCC says that the act is disordered.  It also says that it's not certain what are the origins of sexual orientation, but that homosexuals should be treated with respect, compassion and sensitivity and unjust discrimination should be avoided.

    If this priest allows heterosexual couples who are not married but are engaged in sexual relationships to receive Communion, then he is being unjust to the lesbian daughter.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_denying-communion?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:073b91ef-1242-44ca-8ee1-bee680a53961Post:9bd56334-639e-4959-a5b5-f5f775e79879">Re: Denying Communion??</a>:
    [QUOTE]The CCC says that the act is disordered.  It also says that it's not certain what are the origins of sexual orientation, but that homosexuals should be treated with respect, compassion and sensitivity and unjust discrimination should be avoided. If this priest allows heterosexual couples who are not married but are engaged in sexual relationships to receive Communion, then he is being unjust to the lesbian daughter.
    Posted by mica178[/QUOTE]

    <div>It says the "inclination" is disordered.</div><div>
    </div><div>In general, a priest does not know the attempts that a couple is making to be chaste, returning to confession etc, or how public they are making their relationship.  In this case, there is one account that this woman came in and announced her sinful situation in front of people, made it public right before mass.   This is the difference in this situation....not whether is same sex attraction or not. </div><div>
    </div><div>Not knowing which accounts are true, as said before, we can't put judgement on the priest either. </div>
This discussion has been closed.
Choose Another Board
Search Boards