E.L. James takedown on Twitter (might be TMI)

Re: E.L. James takedown on Twitter (might be TMI)

• [Deleted User] member

  

  July 2015

  I just popped in here to say:

  
  

  1. After being begged by my friends to read 50 Shades, I downloaded a sample and couldn't get past all the grammatical errors. 

  
  

  2. There is a LOT of incredible fan fiction out there. I can't believe this was published.

  
  

  3. There is a LOT of incredible erotic literature that doesn't use the same, weird-ass words to describe penises over and over and over again.

  
  

  4. E.L. James is a dumb-butt, and her publicist/agent is apparently worse for thinking that Q&A was a good idea.

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• Kahlyla member

  

  July 2015

  ibarfburlapandlace said:

  This makes me laugh. I mean it's an erotica novel and people are saying it's written bad? Isn't that like critiquing a porn star for being a bad actor ? I like the books. Its a change from watching "2 girls one pole".

  Yes, because these are literally the only two options in life!
  

  

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• Bubblegum5586 member

  

  July 2015

  Favorite tweet;

  
  

  #AskELJames Can you confirm that you will be writing the story of Ramsay Bolton from his perspective, showing he is just misunderstood?
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  

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• DarthV8r member

  

  July 2015

  Kahlyla said:

  ibarfburlapandlace said:

  This makes me laugh. I mean it's an erotica novel and people are saying it's written bad? Isn't that like critiquing a porn star for being a bad actor ? I like the books. Its a change from watching "2 girls one pole".

  Yes, because these are literally the only two options in life!
  

  
  I know you are being sarcastic but I'm not sure as to why. Are you trying to shame me for liking porn? Or is it the choice of porn you detest?

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• Kahlyla member

  

  July 2015 edited July 2015

  
  

  ibarfburlapandlace said:

  Kahlyla said:

  ibarfburlapandlace said:

  This makes me laugh. I mean it's an erotica novel and people are saying it's written bad? Isn't that like critiquing a porn star for being a bad actor ? I like the books. Its a change from watching "2 girls one pole".

  Yes, because these are literally the only two options in life!
  

  
  I know you are being sarcastic but I'm not sure as to why. Are you trying to shame me for liking porn? Or is it the choice of porn you detest?

  LOL. I have no issue with porn, and you can watch whatever you like. I didn't realize you were literally speaking for yourself - I read it as more of a general statement akin to when one says, "Well, I'd rather kids do blah blah blah than sit around watching video games all day!" or one of the many other straw man generalizations people often throw around that aren't actually relevant to the discussion at hand. If you were being literal, I apologize for my snarkiness (though I still think the books are garbage).
  

  

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• thespeshulestsnowflake member

  

  July 2015

  relliotts said:

  
  

  Maggie0829 said:

  Wouldn't she have a college email address? Not everyone had a computer when I went to college (15 years ago).  

  
  

  Anyway, the book is horribly written, and the erotica is just not that good. I still read them, because they are easy reads, but it doesn't change the fact that the story is terrible, the writing is terrible and the sex is terrible.

  Perhaps that is what she truly believes though. And I think people will be up in arms regardless if she came out and said it is abusive too. I think people need to claim responsibility for their own thinking and what they believe. If they decide to believe a fictional book is actually fact that says a lot about their mental state more so then the content of a piece of fiction. It would be like if I decided to believe Harry Potter was real and went around dressed as a wizard, waving a wand around and "cursing"everyone I saw. Pretty sure people wouldn't be blaming the book or the author for my behavior but they would rather say that I need to see a shrink.

  Part of the issue lies in the ways in which our culture stigmatizes intimacy in general, and particularly anything that is considered out of the "norm". That stigma plays in to people being ashamed and embarrassed about intimacy and their own needs.  There are likely many, many people who are interested or curious about the things discussed in the book, but because it is generally not OK to talk about them in the open in our culture, they aren't going to seek out information about it.  But they will see this book, which has become an accepted and celebrated thing, and they will read it and come away from it with the belief that this is how this type of relationship should be.
  
  That's probably not going to happen with Harry Potter.  Most people understand that they can't cast magic spells, because there isn't this big hush hush secret attitude about magic-oriented fantasy novels etc. People understand Harry Potter to be fun fiction; some will understand 50 Shades to be a portrayal of reality, because our culture has set them up to take it as such/prevented them from looking for a more truthful representation in a safe way.
  

  Wait. Harry Potter isn't real?!?!?!?!

  
  

  

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• DarthV8r member

  

  July 2015

  Kahlyla said:

  
  

  ibarfburlapandlace said:

  Kahlyla said:

  ibarfburlapandlace said:

  This makes me laugh. I mean it's an erotica novel and people are saying it's written bad? Isn't that like critiquing a porn star for being a bad actor ? I like the books. Its a change from watching "2 girls one pole".

  Yes, because these are literally the only two options in life!
  

  
  I know you are being sarcastic but I'm not sure as to why. Are you trying to shame me for liking porn? Or is it the choice of porn you detest?

  LOL. I have no issue with porn, and you can watch whatever you like. I didn't realize you were literally speaking for yourself - I read it as more of a general statement akin to when one says, "Well, I'd rather kids do blah blah blah than sit around watching video games all day!" or one of the many other straw man generalizations people often throw around that aren't actually relevant to the discussion at hand. If you were being literal, I apologize for my snarkiness (though I still think the books are garbage).
  

  
  Oh well that explains it. I was being literal. I need to buy more stuff.

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• Vivandiere8 member

  

  July 2015

  If you want to read a really, really funny review of Fifty Shades of Gray check this one out by Dave Barry
  
  Fifty Shades Link
  
  
  

  
  

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• Chipmunk415 member

  

  July 2015

  Recommending my go to paranormal romance novelist- Jeaniene Frost and the Night Huntress series. There's actually a plot in the books, the protagonist is a butt kicking half vampire woman, and in one of the novels, the male lead (a vampire) actually says "Ask me if I sparkle, and I will kill you where you stand." LOVE IT.

  
  

  Linky below is for the chronological order of the books.

  
  

  http://jeanienefrost.com/reading-order/
  

  
  

  Another better option for massively detailed sex scenes amidst an actual story, with lots of BDSM? Jacqueline Carey's Kushiel series (legacy and scion); the Naamah trilogy does not have BDSM, but still gratuitous sex.

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