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I'm just gonna be here, chillin', ignoring FMIL *VENT*

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edited February 2014 in Chit Chat
I'm starting to feel like she actually just doesn't want us to get married. She's always picking at some detail. First it was the date, then it was the guest list, then it was the preliminary seating "chart" (not a full one just a "we know X would want to sit near Y" stuff, so more guidelines to keep handy while doing the seating chart). Now this, which she's already done more than once.

Little backstory: Yesterday there was some drama here in town. A friend of FMIL's (J) has some family visiting, so yesterday morning she took them to visit her daughters who live about 4 hours away. She left her keys (both to her house and the guest houses she runs) with a friend of hers (M) across the street, so this friend could go across in the evenings, switch lights on etc. M is an elderly woman, who can be a little dippy and a little odd, but is trustworthy.

So around 3pm M calls FMIL in a panic, she thinks the house has been broken into, there's a light on in one of the rooms, all the cupboards are open, and the burglar bars are lying on the kitchen floor. FMIL calls the police to report the break-in, then tells FI and FFIL they need to go over there and wait with M until the police get there, and do a walk through and all that. Yes, there was a break-in, they searched all the rooms, didn't take anything (there were cellphones, cameras, computers etc all over the house, untouched). According to FFIL it looked like something out of a movie the way the place had been ransacked. We eventually figured out that they were looking for J's money (because of the guest houses, she sometimes has large amounts of cash in the house) but they didn't find it - FFIL did, with J's directions, and it's secure and at our place now until J gets back from her trip later today.

Anyway, while FI and FFIL were out trying to calm M, help the police, get in touch with the guys to fix the burglar bars etc, I stayed home with FMIL because obviously she was quite shocked. So we were talking about this and that, and she asked if I'd spoken to my mom lately. I said yes, I spoke to her earlier in the week, but I forgot to ask her when she plans on coming down for the wedding, so I don't have the dates yet to give J to book her guest house.

FMIL goes "Are you SURE you can afford it this year, I mean, you know FI's car needs to be fixed and it's going to cost R20k (that's about $2000)!"

I said "Yes, I'm sure. We're not having a huge wedding, we're having the wedding we can afford."

She looked at me like, yeah, right.

So I said "Well, there is another option, of course."

She looked surprised.

I said "We could always just get married at Home Affairs and have lunch afterwards." (Which, by the way, is what I wanted to do in the first place!)

She looked totally disgusted and just didn't respond.

Now seriously, FI isn't paying for this wedding, I am. I'm not touching FI's money for this, if he needs to get his car fixed, then that's his own business (and apparently hers, because his bank account is STILL linked to hers!). Besides which, I am a grown-ass woman who has been managing her own damn finances for more than a decade. I have worked in a law firm which specialised in insolvencies, and both my sister and my father are qualified debt counsellors, whom I have worked for. I have yet to have SARS, the banks, the shops, or the cops come after me. 

I do not live beyond my means. I buy new clothes when I need them, I buy new shoes when I can find them, which is not very often at all, because I'm a non-standard size and shoes that fit are a bitch to find. I do my hair and nails myself, I don't go to the salon unless I have to. Once a weekend (or once every two weeks) I treat FI to breakfast at our favourite café, so we can get out of the house and discuss things without people hovering and butting in. I don't even go into town unless I have something specific that I need to do. After I pay my bills, my salary gets split between my credit cards and the wedding fund, with a little left over so I can treat FI to breakfast, and be able to buy bus tickets home if I need them.

FI and I have already cancelled the order for my engagement ring and our wedding bands (thankfully the jeweller hadn't started on them yet), and that's all FI had to pay for, so if this wedding comes up as an excuse for why he can't pay for his car I'm going to throw a total hissy. We're going to get stainless steel bands from the same place where we got the ring I'm wearing at the moment - for approximately $2 each - and we'll replace them with the custom rings later when we can afford them.

We've cut our guest list from 100 to 40.

My mom is paying for my dress, and has, very generously, offered to pay half the reception costs (in terms of food and drink). Considering we're having a very small set lunch, and we're expecting about 30 people to actually come, that's not going to be a huge amount. She's also offered to pay for our photographer, if we decide to hire one. We've decided not to hire the one we wanted, but we may get someone else.

FMIL has offered to make the cake for us, and I'm holding her to that.

FI's uncle and/or my boss will be officiating.

MOH's sister and her great-aunt are making my dress (for less than a third of what anyone else quoted me), MOH's dress, and probably the gents' waistcoats as well, so we're saving massively there.

I'm wearing shoes I already own, and doing my own hair, nails, and make-up, as well as MOH's. I'm making all our stationery, from STDs to Thank You cards and place cards. I'm making all the decor, which I'll get started on as soon as the venue gets back to me about whether we're doing long tables or short tables so I know how many centerpieces I need.

The gents outfits are: white button-down shirts with open collars and rolled up sleeves, waistcoats, suit pants, belt, socks, shoes. Both FI and BM have the shirt, belt, socks, and shoes already. BM has his pants, FI needs new ones because he's put on a little weight since he had his transplant and has gone up a size, and we're having the waistcoats made at very little cost.

My brother is DJing for us, and we're not having flowers. Favours are not a done thing here, nor are RDs (though we'll have a small one anyway because our BP is OOT).

I have cut costs, in every possible place. There is nowhere else to save money, and I am confident that I've already cut things that I could have afforded.

I swear if she brings up our wedding finances one more time, I'm cancelling the whole damn thing and FI and I are getting married at Home Affairs, without either set of parents!

*fumefumefumefumefume*

ETA: stuff because I can't think straight
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Re: I'm just gonna be here, chillin', ignoring FMIL *VENT*

  • @urbaneca

    I am sorry that she's being a pain in the butt. I would just stop all wedding related conversations with her except for what she has a say in like the cake. 

    I am sorry if you answered this before but is your FI her only or youngest son? That could be big part of how she's acting. 

    As for the car thing, its a normal thing for a mother to be worried. $2000 is a lot of money especially when planning a wedding. She may have just wanted to make sure you two were really okay financially (not defending her. Just offering a suggestion).
  • Yeah, that's what I'm trying to do. It's just annoying that I can't even mention, in passing, that I still need dates from my mom so I can book her accommodation, without it becoming a huge thing.

    Yes, FI is her only son, and yes, he was a sickly child, so she is hugely over-protective. But I have told her more than once that my finances are fine and that they are my business and not hers. I have also told her repeatedly that I am paying for the wedding, not FI.

    I agree that $2000 is a lot of money, but when we were told that that's what it would cost, I immediately (and I do mean immediately) contacted the jeweller and cancelled the order - the money that was supposed to pay for our rings is now supposed to pay for the car, and that's FI's money, not mine.
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  • edited February 2014
    I'm so sorry. Vent away to us! I think you're right that his mother just doesn't want him to get married at all and is throwing up road blocks in an vain effort to deal this wedding.

    Your FI needs to have a sit-down, come-to-Jesus conversation with his mother about her behaviour, because she's being completely unreasonable.

    ETA: Just straight up stop talking wedding with her. If she mentions anything say, 'Oh, it's handled, thanks" and change the subject.
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  • I haven't told FI about this latest incident yet - when he got back from the break-in, he was just exhausted and had such a bad headache I just left him alone. But he's supposed to help me move my desk/office around later today, so maybe when we go out to the office I can mention it to him.

    I honestly feel like I should take her out for coffee and say "thanks for giving us a place to stay, we really appreciate it, BUT...", but it's not my place. She's not my mother.

    I'm just so over all this family drama. I have enough money in my wedding fund right now that I could get our ANC, get married at HA, have a fantastic lunch afterwards, and have plenty of money left to go away with FI for a couple of days.

    You know, when we came home from the park and FI told FMIL that he'd asked me to marry him, her reaction was "Are you sure you want to do that?". Not "I'm happy for you but are you sure...?", not "Congratulations. Are you sure...?" just flat out "Are you sure you want to do that?"

    She's told all her family that I'm a wonderful, sweet girl, and she likes me very much blahblah, so I'm fairly certain that it's not ME she objects to. Although I do know she'd prefer it if I was a friend of ours, who is about to become a doctor of plant sciences. Yes, FI did date her for a little while, it ended badly because they are just NOT suited for each other, they're better as friends. Also I think said friend may be of a different persuasion.

    Fleh on all this drama.
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  • If it makes you feel better, I know that DH's grandmother hates me not for who I am but because she doesn't like anyone marrying into her family. She just doesn't. It's nothing to do with me and everything to do with her own pettiness and meanness.

    We saw her for lunch on Friday, and as we were leaving, she said to DH, right in front of me, 'I don't have her phone number.'

    Uhm...I'm right here and can HEAR YOU. Also, you don't have my phone number for a very good reason: I don't want to talk to you!!

    She was nagging DH about him/us not calling more often and checking in with her.

    'Not my circus, not my monkeys.'
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  • I know. I'm so sorry about BSC grandma... *hugs*

    This is definitely getting out of hand though, and it's also definitely a "not my circus, not my monkeys" situation.

    When FI and I first started talking about marriage, I told him straight out that I want to get married at Home Affairs and have lunch with the important people afterwards. I do not want to spend a lot of money on a single day, because it's really not important to me what I wear or what we eat or what our colours are - what is important to me is that I get to marry him, and that the people we care about get to be part of it. He wants a "proper" wedding (I know, I know, his words, not mine). So I think I need to sit down with FI and make it clear that I'm planning this "huge" wedding because it's what he and his family want, and he needs to either step up and support me on this, or get out of my way and let me plan the HA wedding.
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  • I should be giving YOU hugs for dealing with your FMIL. You have to live with her; I see crazy granny once a month, tops.

    ALLLLL the wine to you!
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  • Thanks, HisGirl! <3

    So FI and I went and moved my office, and then I sat him down and told him what had happened and explained my situation. He says he honestly did not realise I was as depressed and stressed out as I obviously am. FMIL is over at J's at the moment, helping her straighten the house out so she can carry on with her life again, but FI's going to talk to her when she gets back and ask her to please stop putting unnecessary stress on me about the wedding.

    The FILs are going away for a week from next weekend, to visit FI's sister (I feel so sorry for her having to deal with them for the whole week), so at least we'll have some us time then.

    I dreamed about my dad again last night, and in the dream he told me, once again, that he would rather have Stepmonster in his life than me. I woke up very angry and very upset this morning, and I think I'm going to be very angry and very upset about this for a long time. It's incredibly difficult for me knowing that my dad won't be there when I get married, not because he can't come, not because of work or travel restrictions, but because he just doesn't fucking want to.

    Any time I mention that I miss my mom, or wish I could hang out with her, FMIL jumps in with a comment along the lines of "I've been living on a different continent from my mom longer than you've been alive!" Great, I'm happy that you're the kind of person who could do that, but I'm NOT. My mom is my best friend. I lived with her well into my 20s, as much because she needed me as because I needed her. It is difficult for me to be so far away from the only member of my family who truly does love me unconditionally. I have no family here. I have no friends here (well, I have one acquaintance here, but she recently went through something very traumatic and has suddenly come over all religious and judge-y). I have no support system here, so just freaking give-over about me being close to my mom!

    Bleh. Ranty-ness over. For now, anyway. It's not 12 o'clock yet, and I haven't eaten anything other than an oat crunchie, so I probably should not start on the alcohol yet, but it's tempting... So tempting!
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  • Sorry your FMIL is so difficult!
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  • melbelleupmelbelleup member
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    edited February 2014
    If it makes you feel better, I know that DH's grandmother hates me not for who I am but because she doesn't like anyone marrying into her family. She just doesn't. It's nothing to do with me and everything to do with her own pettiness and meanness. We saw her for lunch on Friday, and as we were leaving, she said to DH, right in front of me, 'I don't have her phone number.' Uhm...I'm right here and can HEAR YOU. Also, you don't have my phone number for a very good reason: I don't want to talk to you!! She was nagging DH about him/us not calling more often and checking in with her. 'Not my circus, not my monkeys.'
    Your reason is the reason Fi's aunt hates me. She didn't "approve" me to date him. Nor did my FI ask her permission to marry me. Uh step off. My FI has 2 parents, who are married and have no issues. You Ma'am are not his parents, you get no say.  Ironically, she was much nicer to me this past Christmas after Fi had a talk with her during Spring Break about how much of a bitch she is to me. She also recently got fired from her job bc she chases away the other employees lol


    ETA: I'm sorry you're going through this. I seriously would just tell her let me plan my wedding how I want to plan my wedding. I hear you on financial, FI isn't saving at all due to he still has credit card debt that will be paid off right around when we get married. I'd rather have his debt gone than him help any day.
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