Thursday

mrsconn23

Back to work for me, but I am heading to the doc here in about an hour.   I got worse overnight and there's a huge winter storm heading our way tomorrow.  Should have just booked myself with the kiddo yesterday, but ah well.  I don't have a fever or body aches, just an incredibly annoying sore throat (feels like there's hot pokers in there), ear pain, and chest congestion.  If that would stop, I'd feel just fine.  

I've gotta get ahead with work before I leave, but I will do Prudie as soon as I am back (I'm going to get my drugs on lunch). 

southernbelle0915

Hope you feel better soon, @mrsconn23!

My eye is twitching I'm so tired today. I wish caffeine wasn't on the no fly list for pregnancy (well, fly in moderation, but not as much as I want/need).   

banana468

Feel better!   DH is fighting something fierce.   He has only offered a cheek to smooch the last few days. 

I love DH but he needs to change the damn battery in my car.   I could do it but he's said he will.  

This morning we loaded the kids in the car and because Chiquito left the light on above his carseat the battery was dead and the car wouldn't start.   DH jumped it in about 2 minutes.

Chiquita then said, "Mom, did you say 'Thank you strong lover to Dad?'"  Then the giggling ensued.

Out of the mouths of babes, as I was putting the kids to bed I heard Chiquita call her little brother a "butt hole dingus." 

MissKittyDanger

@mrsconn23 yikes feel better!

@southernbelle0915 oh dear Have you tried apple juice? Apparently that also wakes you up and there's no caffeine {my dr suggested it awhile ago when I had morning sickness}

@banana468 Poor DH
Serious question, how do you not die laughing when your kid says things like that? Like moments you shouldn't laugh. I'm pretty good at turning around when young kids say things they shouldn't so they don't see the reaction {ex: 4yr old yelling 'PENIS!"}

charlotte989875

Hope everyone feels better! H is still sick, too and he's never sick. 

In better news the closing documents are signed and sent off! Closing set for tomorrow at 11. 

MissKittyDanger

I'm hoping my mum will be okay tomorrow, but she's had a stomach virus yesterday. I'm suppose to see her tomorrow night briefly and she's stopping by on Saturday {may stay, may not. Playing that by how she feels}

Didn't do laundry last night *sigh* I've had some wicked indigestion off and on for a few days. I think it's because of baby's positioning, but we'll see.

Tonight we're seeing my nana Pregnancy brain forgot to bring her xmas gift Saturday, so we're going tonight to see her and bring it. It's a good thing because I got her a wax warmer and I wanna show her how it works. It's obviously not difficult, but she's never had/used one. So easier to be there and do set up, etc.



Low key work day. I'm alone so I'll be doing some catch up on random paper work around the office.

Yay Prudie day!

kvruns

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

southernbelle0915

MKD - I have not tried apple juice instead of caffeine, but I like it, so why not. 

MissKittyDanger

southernbelle0915 said:

MKD - I have not tried apple juice instead of caffeine, but I like it, so why not. 

Apples are also good. My dr suggested it when I had morning sickness cuz apple juice helps stomach, and can also wake you up

Let me know how you like it!

STARMOON44

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

banana468

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

And plenty of people may not have lived on their own until they hit grad school.

I  lived with my parents until I was 18, then lived in college dorms for four years (never in an apt) and only when I was 22 did I have my first apartment.

For the first 18 years of my life I thought my punishment was either death or hand loss for touching the thermostat.   You just didn't touch it.   The general theme was put on another sweater in winter or fewer clothes in the summer.  

I know now that I'm an adult about pipe freezing but it can be one of those things that you just don't learn.

charlotte989875

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

We're in an apartment complex for now and there are signs EVERYWHERE about leaving your heat on, letting pipes drip, etc. if leaving for any length of time. 

Also, we are closing on the house tomorrow so we're calling for final readings and each time we have spoken to our agent or the title company they remind us to call for final readings, not shutoffs. 

MissKittyDanger

banana468 said:

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

And plenty of people may not have lived on their own until they hit grad school.

I  lived with my parents until I was 18, then lived in college dorms for four years (never in an apt) and only when I was 22 did I have my first apartment.

For the first 18 years of my life I thought my punishment was either death or hand loss for touching the thermostat.   You just didn't touch it.   The general theme was put on another sweater in winter or fewer clothes in the summer.  

I know now that I'm an adult about pipe freezing but it can be one of those things that you just don't learn.

100% bolded!! I didn't learn about frozen pipes until I was 20 because we moved and the layout of my mum's place is just that you have to keep the taps dripping. Our old place I'd lived at {and M's and my current place} we don't have to do that.

Mind you, there's a lot people don't learn about until it's almost too late. Taxes. Debt. Credit rating. Budgeting. etc

kvruns

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

She said they grew up in New England so they are accustomed to cold climates. I do agree that a reminder to tenants would have been good

banana468

MissKittyDanger said:

banana468 said:

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

And plenty of people may not have lived on their own until they hit grad school.

I  lived with my parents until I was 18, then lived in college dorms for four years (never in an apt) and only when I was 22 did I have my first apartment.

For the first 18 years of my life I thought my punishment was either death or hand loss for touching the thermostat.   You just didn't touch it.   The general theme was put on another sweater in winter or fewer clothes in the summer.  

I know now that I'm an adult about pipe freezing but it can be one of those things that you just don't learn.

100% bolded!! I didn't learn about frozen pipes until I was 20 because we moved and the layout of my mum's place is just that you have to keep the taps dripping. Our old place I'd lived at {and M's and my current place} we don't have to do that.

Mind you, there's a lot people don't learn about until it's almost too late. Taxes. Debt. Credit rating. Budgeting. etc

Those are all things that are right in front of you if you read though.   And budgeting is understanding that your credit card has a purpose but if you can't pay it off eventually you should probably reconsider buying the item.  That stuff was drilled into me in multiple classes.

But home ownership / rental things just weren't.   As I got older and out of school I learned a bit more.

Even FIL who just retired used to work for a home heating oil company.   He talked about people who didn't really pay attention to how much oil they needed, why they should turn their thermostat higher than they thought when they weren't in their homes and why a vacant home burns more oil than a lived-in one.   It all makes complete sense once you're actually forced to think about it.  

southernbelle0915

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

Agreed. Does this landlord know that southerners attend Harvard? And someone going to an Ivy League school has exactly zero correlation with them knowing to leave the heat on anyway. If I were a landlord in a cold climate, I would send out an email (requesting acknowledgement) and then I would also go to the residence if they were going to be out of town and ensure that they followed the instructions. 

banana468

kvruns said:

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

She said they grew up in New England so they are accustomed to cold climates. I do agree that a reminder to tenants would have been good

Hopefully that's a solid lesson to her for the future.  

FWIW, my BIL and SIL also had to have their condo gutted and re-done TWICE.  They were renting it out and two separate times (years apart) after a showing the realtors turned the heat down too low.   Both times pipes burst damaging the flooring, cabinetry, everything. Insurance covered it but they sold after the second time. 

MissKittyDanger

banana468 said:

MissKittyDanger said:

banana468 said:

I know now that I'm an adult about pipe freezing but it can be one of those things that you just don't learn.

100% bolded!! I didn't learn about frozen pipes until I was 20 because we moved and the layout of my mum's place is just that you have to keep the taps dripping. Our old place I'd lived at {and M's and my current place} we don't have to do that.

Mind you, there's a lot people don't learn about until it's almost too late. Taxes. Debt. Credit rating. Budgeting. etc

Those are all things that are right in front of you if you read though.   And budgeting is understanding that your credit card has a purpose but if you can't pay it off eventually you should probably reconsider buying the item.  That stuff was drilled into me in multiple classes.

But home ownership / rental things just weren't.   As I got older and out of school I learned a bit more.

Even FIL who just retired used to work for a home heating oil company.   He talked about people who didn't really pay attention to how much oil they needed, why they should turn their thermostat higher than they thought when they weren't in their homes and why a vacant home burns more oil than a lived-in one.   It all makes complete sense once you're actually forced to think about it.  

I like that your school taught this! Ours didn't. Many schools don't. They've just started bringing in financial advisers to talk to grade 11/12s about debt, student loan and the risk they take when the colleges offer a bunch of credit cards.

I remember in grade 10 we briefly touched on budgets, but nothing too detailed. More like "Oh you should learn how to budget when you're out on your own."

mrsconn23

Welp, it's the fucking flu. Fun times.  Feeling pretty thankful that I don't have severe symptoms at all.  They're mostly annoying to me and I can work through it.  

If you test positive for the flu, they toss a mask at you and throw you out the door.  It was kinda funny.  

Edit: I'm also the first vaccinated person the doc has seen test positive.  I'm sure that's why I have reduced symptoms. 

Edit #2: I had to get swabbed for strep and the flu.  FUCK both those tests.  I almost cried. 

CharmedPam

yay, @charlotte989875, fingers are crossed for a smooth closing.

re: freezing pipes, I'm from Chicagoland, and NONE of my apartment complexes posted about not turning of the heat.  However, my last one that I lived at for 5 years controlled all that.  As a home owner, I just know.  I think my parents may have told me in passing about it, but otherwise if you don't hear it from someone else, how would you know?

Today is my Friday.  But I'm traveling to Winnipeg, and it's 50 here with no snow and -23 with snow there, so I'm not really looking forward to it.  I don't find traveling back "home" as a vacation.  It's my Grandpa's 90th though, so I have to buck up.

kvruns

feel better @mrsconn23 I would never have thought your symptoms = flu

mrsconn23

kvruns said:

feel better @mrsconn23 I would never have thought your symptoms = flu

Me either!  I've had the flu before...It felt like a truck ran over me and then kept backing up to do it again and again for a few days.  This has just been gradual (and annoying) throat ick.  

MissKittyDanger

@mrsconn23 I've heard there's an issue with the vaccine this year that people are still getting sick Booooo you being sick!!

charlotte989875

Thanks @CharmedPam; fingers crossed, but we should be set. 

Also a huge shout out to LL Bean customer service! I ordered boots earlier this week, full price; but the just announced a 25% off winter sale and they will credit back the 25% (like $54) to my credit card. Way to go LL Bean. 

missJeanLouise

When I lived in Atlanta, there were signs posted all over our apartment complex about pipes freezing when it got cold (I think because they aren’t buried as deep as they are further north) but I can’t remember even getting a notice when I lived in the midwest. However, I had always rented from a private person and not at a complex before so idk if that makes a difference.

MissKittyDanger

When we lived in both apartments, we couldn't actually turn off the heat just turn it down. Heat was included into the rent, so that might be why.

Only one apartment did we have an issue with heat, and something had rusted so bad that it broke. It was in early March, so it wasn't at risk of freezing.

southernbelle0915

charlotte989875 said:

Thanks @CharmedPam; fingers crossed, but we should be set. 

Also a huge shout out to LL Bean customer service! I ordered boots earlier this week, full price; but the just announced a 25% off winter sale and they will credit back the 25% (like $54) to my credit card. Way to go LL Bean. 

I LOVE LLBean. They are such a do-the-right-thing company. And their products are always top notch. Back when I was cool, I swore I'd never wear it and that it was straight up mom-gear....but when in Rome.

banana468

Also, the hot water line to my office froze on Sunday.   It's one room behind the garage and it's not used Fri evening - Monday AM.   I turned the heat down too low and DH was able to catch it in time. 

Jen4948

@mrsconn23, I hope you're better soon.

Gray, gloomy day today. Just got turned down for a job. 

I can't win.

TrixieJess

banana468 said:

STARMOON44 said:

kvruns said:

@short+sassy I thought of you when I saw a friend post this on FB. 

"Being a landlord is not fun when you have tenants who are book smart but not life smart....who SHUTS OFF the heat in the winter for 2 weeks away? Two tenants in our apartment building shut it off completely and not only did the supply lines freeze, the kitchen sink faucet in one apartment exploded, toilets in both apts were frozen solid blocks of ice and both need to be replaces, and the tub plumbing is totally busted and needs to be replaced. One tenant asks if our insurance will cover his water damaged stuff. These are Ivy League grad students....supposedly some of the smartest people and both grew up in New England. Clearly the school didn't screen for common sense"

People who aren’t from cold climates! Pot kettle whiny landlord, what responsible landlord doesn’t send out an email instructing people to leave the heat on at 66 or whatever if they are traveling over the holidays? Every place I’ve lived has!

And plenty of people may not have lived on their own until they hit grad school.

I  lived with my parents until I was 18, then lived in college dorms for four years (never in an apt) and only when I was 22 did I have my first apartment.

For the first 18 years of my life I thought my punishment was either death or hand loss for touching the thermostat.   You just didn't touch it.   The general theme was put on another sweater in winter or fewer clothes in the summer.  

I know now that I'm an adult about pipe freezing but it can be one of those things that you just don't learn.

Maybe because I'm from a cold climate area where watermains regularly burst and power goes out on the regular, but we were taught from a very young age what to do if the house goes below a certain temperature, or the water pressure. I even know how to heat pipes if there's no power. 

I'm sorry but if you live on your own, there are things that you need to learn, what to do in emergencies, and what to do when you go on vacation are just a couple of them. Why didn't they have someone checking on their apartment while they were gone? Also, don't they have tenant's insurance? 

CharmedPam

TrixieJess said:

Maybe because I'm from a cold climate area where watermains regularly burst and power goes out on the regular, but we were taught from a very young age what to do if the house goes below a certain temperature, or the water pressure. I even know how to heat pipes if there's no power. 

I'm sorry but if you live on your own, there are things that you need to learn, what to do in emergencies, and what to do when you go on vacation are just a couple of them. Why didn't they have someone checking on their apartment while they were gone? Also, don't they have tenant's insurance? 

I seriously wish there was a course for first time home owners. I found out 2 years after living in my house that my furnace needed a filter change.  It just never occurred to me.  I never had to deal with furnaces in apartments.