Wedding Woes

Your FI has the right idea: Elope

Dear Prudence,

My mother had a beautiful parrot for over a decade until it died five years ago. Ever since then, I’ve gotten a monthly update about “Polly.” (Think: “It’s raining today. Polly always loved the rain,” or “Happy Halloween, missing Polly.”) I understand my mother’s sadness at losing her pet and try to be supportive without letting our entire conversations be about Polly. My father chooses to do “whatever your mother needs” to grieve, which means their house is basically a Polly shrine and discussion of getting another pet is forbidden.

My fiancé and I plan to get married next summer, and my mother has already insisted someone mention Polly during my wedding. Originally, she wanted Polly mentioned in the formal speeches and among the family pictures at the reception, Polly-themed dessert and favors. I put my foot down and said my wedding will not become a bird funeral six years after the fact. My father told her she needs to tone down the Polly demands and told me I should do one small thing (he suggested Polly’s photo incorporated into my mom’s mother-of-the bride corsage). My fiancé privately laughs about the whole thing and says we should just elope anyway. I’m leaning toward eloping just to avoid dealing with my mom’s bird grief on a day that’s supposed to be about the love I have found with my fiancé. What do you think?

—Not a Bird Funeral

Re: Your FI has the right idea: Elope

  • Oh for fucks' sake. 

    This would get a resounding no.   Mom's gonna keep asking until you tell her that you aren't hosting a bird memorial.  

    Eloping may be the answer and the other is to tell mom that SHE gets to mourn Polly however not everyone else does.   That means that SHE can mention Polly and there's no obligation for anyone else to mention or honor the bird. 
  • This isn’t about the wedding, because your Mom has some serious grief she’s not addressing. But I agree that eloping solves the problem in the short run. 

    But also who thinks if the LW has a child Mom will insist she name it Polly? 
    Or mandate a bird-themed nursery? 
  • Jinx @banana468, you owe me a coke.  LOL
  • Some of this depends on LW wants.  I'd probably try and have one conversation with my mother about, "I'm concerned that you are not processing your grief, maybe you should see a therapist," just b/c this is family.  After that, If LW does want the big wedding and a dress, it's time to learn to say "No" and bean-dip or end the conversations.

    If LW doesn't care, still have the convo and then elope.
  • OK, this is WEIRD. Maybe I'm biased because I'm not a bird person, but five years is a long time to still be bringing up a dead parrot this frequently. And insisting that Polly be incorporated into the wedding? Holy crap. 

    Mom needs some serious help in getting past this grief. And LW needs to let Mom know that unless she herself wants to mention Polly at the wedding, nobody is doing anything to honor the bird. And if that doesn't work, eloping may be a good idea, as crazy as the whole thing sounds. 
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  • VarunaTT said:
    Some of this depends on LW wants.  I'd probably try and have one conversation with my mother about, "I'm concerned that you are not processing your grief, maybe you should see a therapist," just b/c this is family.  After that, If LW does want the big wedding and a dress, it's time to learn to say "No" and bean-dip or end the conversations.

    If LW doesn't care, still have the convo and then elope.
    You’re thinking my thoughts @VarunaTT.  LW shouldn’t have to elope because of her mom’s dead bird memorial if a big wedding is what she wants! 

    I wonder if LW has any siblings that could also talk to mom if Dad isn’t getting to her?

  • Jen4948Jen4948 member
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    edited June 2020
    Weird.

    Tell your mother "No. End of story."

    All that said, I have a friend whose husband died unexpectedly five years ago. For about three years after that she put his name in every single one of her Facebook posts, and whenever anything positive happened, she'd mention that he must have done something from heaven. Everyone told her to stop. At first I was sympathetic and thought that even though she was overdoing it, it was just her way of mourning, but after a while even I got sick of it.

    But a memorial speech for a five-year-dead bird at a wedding????????????????????

    To say that Mom needs therapy is a tremendous understatement.
  • What in the what?


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  • This is right up there with the goat mass back in the day!
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  • MNNEBride said:
    This is right up there with the goat mass back in the day!
    Goat mass? I don't remember this!
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  • MNNEBride said:
    This is right up there with the goat mass back in the day!
    OMG, we need to see if Hmo still has the story saved somewhere.  She's not on FB that much.  Let me go look. 

    Oh Wwife!  How she's missed.  
  • This so weird.
    I mean we had 2 cats for years as a kid, and since we did a slideshow they were included obv. But did anyone ask for more? No. That's weird.

    LW's mom needs too seek help on the attached-obsession with Polly
  • My brother died 5 years before I got married. My mother didn't ask for this much, and he was a whole ass person.

    But like "mom, here's the deal. I'll agree to incorporate Polly in your corsage if you'll agree to start talking to a therapist about Polly and your grief. Otherwise, my wedding will be a Polly-free zone."
  • My stages of reading this letter:

    Stage One (utter shock):  WTH!  ((Exclaiming)) Geez, what is wrong with her mother?!?!  Who thinks anything like that is normal?

    Stage Two (serious tone):  Actually, what is wrong with her mother?  It's not a funny question.  It's a serious one.  Her behavior is erratic and there is something really "off" about how she has been handling this death.  She should be seeing a therapist and possibly a medical doctor.

    Not even related to the wedding, LW should (should have been) strongly encourage her mom to seek help and also try to get Dad on board with it.

    She also needs to be firm with her mom.  Tell her that a small Polly pic on the mom's corsage is it.  And any further discussions about Polly and wedding will be shut down immediately.  Then do it.

    There is no way I would have an elopement just to stop someone's annoying behavior and I don't think the LW or her FI should cave on that either, if it's the only reason they are considering an elopement.
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  • So, I get missing a pet years after they are gone.  I even get keeping pictures of them, or the off hand remark of something a pet would have liked (sometimes I eat grapes and think of my rabbit Morte that ate grapes in a really cute way), but monthly updates?  I also agree that it might be best to talk to a therapist.  And maybe the mother has been putting it off because she doesn't think that it's a big enough issue to talk to a therapist.  I think sometimes the death of a pet is just brushed off, but it can have huge effects on some people.  It's okay to be feeling the death of a pet really hard, but when it starts affecting your loved ones and yourself negatively, yes, go talk to a therapist.  A good one will not belittle grief and will help their patient move past it.  

  • kerbohl said:
    So, I get missing a pet years after they are gone.  I even get keeping pictures of them, or the off hand remark of something a pet would have liked (sometimes I eat grapes and think of my rabbit Morte that ate grapes in a really cute way), but monthly updates?  I also agree that it might be best to talk to a therapist.  And maybe the mother has been putting it off because she doesn't think that it's a big enough issue to talk to a therapist.  I think sometimes the death of a pet is just brushed off, but it can have huge effects on some people.  It's okay to be feeling the death of a pet really hard, but when it starts affecting your loved ones and yourself negatively, yes, go talk to a therapist.  A good one will not belittle grief and will help their patient move past it.  
    I agree a pet's death shouldn't be brushed off and it can have huge effects on people that should be taken seriously.  I also don't think there's anything odd about the mom or anyone else having their deceased pet's picture or occasionally mentioning them, even years later.  All of that falls into the broad "normal" category for me.

    The mom falls way out of the "normal" category and that's a good point for the family to do its best to walk a tightrope of getting their mom to agree to therapy, but without belittling her grief.  I'll admit, that would be hard for me if it was my mom.  Because I picture I would get to points of frustration many times where I'd just want to say, "It's a bird.  It was 5 years ago.  Stop it!" and would have to keep mentally restraining myself from doing that because it wouldn't be helpful. 
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