Wedding Woes

Things may have been fine in your relationship, but you have a good reason.

Dear Prudence,

How do you get over breaking up with someone when they didn’t do anything wrong and you still love them? My ex-girlfriend is amazing. She is beautiful, smart, and kindbut it turns out her family are huge racists. This isn’t something she had kept secret from me exactly, but I had thought it was racist like my grandma (who sometimes says something she heard in the 50s and hasn’t thought about since, but will stop if you explain why it is hurtful).

My GF’s parents, siblings, and two in-laws, however, are full-on racists. Her brother has a swastika tattoo on his neck (it wouldn’t be any better anywhere else, but he isn’t even a secret fascist. It is out and proud). My GF’s argument is that she keeps in touch with them because otherwise they won’t hear any other point of view. That she is just doing what I do for my grandma, it is just taking a longer time.

I can respect that, but I have a mixed-race daughter (her mother and I were 15 when she was born), and I can’t have her be a teachable moment OR a casualty to this. My GF insists she’d never bring my daughter around her family … but then what? She wants to spend holidays with them, so my daughter is always excluded from our holiday celebrations? And what if we have kids? They get to meet the racist uncle and bring that home to their sister?

​​So we broke up right before Thanksgiving dinner, after the father made a gross comment about my ex, and now I am in a seedy motel trying to reschedule my flight home. I know I made the right decision. At the end of the day, my daughter comes first.

But I just don’t know how to have a break-up that isn’t angry, I guess. It isn’t my gf’s fault that her family are racists or that she wants them to learn better. I’m not wrong, I don’t think that my daughter deserves better than having that around her, even indirectly.
It is a no-fault break-up, and it sucks.

— Blame Game Fail

Re: Things may have been fine in your relationship, but you have a good reason.

  • You may have had a good relationship however you didn't comment about what your GF at the time said to her dad at the time when he made a disparaging comment about your ex.  

    There is a full difference between gradually working on those who have long-held bigoted views and actively not standing up for those you love.    IMO it's one thing to date someone who is related to people with bigoted views.  It's different when you do not see that person working to effect change especially when you hear pointed remarks.  
  • Oh wow.  This one is TOUGH.  LW is right in that it’s not her fault. And she obviously doesn’t condone it…. But LW also has to be near her family. I really have no advise.

    in a similar situation, my aunt’s step daughter is a “out and proud” racist and married to one and raising her 2 kids with those values :( Thankfully I haven’t been with her since it was shed to light (we grew up playing together) except for one funeral we went to years ago and I couldn’t help but keep that in the back of mind when I was in the room with her. Our family (as in my aunt and cousins and their children) is in the position of really not seeing her often, thankfully.

  • It’s not her fault her family is racist but it is her fault she’s willing to prioritize their comfort over yours and your daughter’s safety and comfort. Everyone has a choice here and she made hers; you made the right one by leaving. 

    It does suck but it would suck more if your daughter found out you stayed with someone like that. 
    That's where I am.  The GF is putting her family's comfort level over being clear about what is and isn't OK.  


  • Also someone with a swastika tattoo isn’t someone who is just in need of a teachable moment. They’re not interested in hearing another side. 
  • Also someone with a swastika tattoo isn’t someone who is just in need of a teachable moment. They’re not interested in hearing another side. 
    And maybe that's also where the LW needs to go.  "I cannot be with you if you want to have this person as an active member of your family social life." 
  • While I can understand staying in touch with racist family, I do not understand spending holidays with them. 

    LW, your ex is not blameless and she is not amazing. You should have dumped her the second she suggested you spend Thanksgiving with these people with a straight face. 
  • The g/f makes it sound like she wants to be "the voice of reason" and that's why she still spends time with her family, including at holidays.  But it seems like she isn't doing a very good or strong job of that, since she didn't immediately go to the seedy hotel with the LW after her father's comment.

    I'm guessing she'll say the occasional comment of "don't say that it's racist"/"Daaaddd, you're not supposed to call XYZ people lazy".  But doesn't make a big deal about it or leave when especially egregious comments are made.  Directed at the LW's ex, no less!

    It's not that her family is racist that is the relationship problem.  Good people can still come out of those circumstances and shouldn't be judged because of who their family are.  The relationship problem is that she chose her racist family instead of the LW and his daughter.  And was up front that they would always come first.

    That is very break-up worthy.

    Though the LW did make one comment that struck me as odd.  He said "he doesn't know how to have a break-up that isn't angry".  I can understand that some break-ups will be angry, but all of them?  That's hinting to me he could be prone to anger and might have his own issues to work on, to be a good partner.
    Wedding Countdown Ticker
  • LW did the right thing and time will eventually heal the wound. I don't agree that GF did nothing wrong by tolerating her family's behavior but without being there idk the nuances.
  • Your ex tolerates her family's blatant racism and expects you to spend holidays without your daughter. I think she's been doing plenty wrong here. 

    Your daughter needs to come first, and that means not joining a family where she won't feel safe. You did the right thing.
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