Wedding Woes

Ugh, "my love". (So not the point, but I can't get past it)

Dear Prudence,

Five years ago, my father had an affair with my mother’s best friend while she was recovering from cancer. To be blunt—it was brutal. They divorced, but he went out to marry his mistress and moved her into our childhood home. My parents were married for over 30 years, and my mom had been friends with the mistress for 30. The affair wrecked every one of my family’s relationships to our father. My brothers refuse to speak to him, and he hasn’t attended any of our milestone events. I was very much daddy’s little princess growing up and very close to him. As much as his betrayals sting even now, I miss him.

I am engaged and the thought of my father not walking me down the aisle, let alone not seeing me marry the love of my life makes me cry. He wrote me a letter after learning of my engagement where he apologized for all the damage he has done and he knows he can’t undo any of it, but he never stopped loving me or my brothers. He also included a very sizable check. My love and I are deeply in debt. The check would wipe it out and leave a lot over for the wedding. My brothers call it a bribe. My love thinks my father is sincere enough. My mother thinks I should accept this as an olive branch, that I deserve my father there on my wedding day. As hard as he hurt her, she still remembers the good times sometimes. That said, she doesn’t want his new wife there. She will keep her peace with our father for my sake, but she will not breathe the same air as that “bitch.” I can understand. I want nothing to do with my father’s new wife. I can’t forgive her or forget what she did to my mother or our family.

My father is equally guilty but he is my father. I love my father. I miss my father. I am angry with my father. I doubt that will ever truly go away. I still want him at my wedding. Not to have him there feels like bolting that door shut. Maybe in a decade, with distance, with grandkids the hurt will fade and even heal. Maybe not. Am I stupid to hope? I have been told to take the check and leave my father hanging; to either tear it up or accept that my father will be bringing his new wife (as you don’t invite one half of a couple); to invite my father solo and don’t do all the traditional father-daughter stuff; or do it anyway. I need an outside perspective—please help!

— Bride to Be

Re: Ugh, "my love". (So not the point, but I can't get past it)

  • Call your father and tell him that you are still mad, but you want him at your wedding, but that you cannot have his wife there, and that you will understand if he wants the check back. 
  • I agree with Starmoon 100%.  I think this is one of the very very few exceptions to the "you have to invite couples as a social unit".  It's ok if LW wants a relationship with her dad even if she's mad and him and doesn't agree with his life choices. Her brothers shouldn't dictate the relationship she and her dad have.

    Also, why did she tell her mom and her brothers about the check and the letter - that seems really personal and i can't imagine sharing that information!
  • I have really mixed feelings with this even as an exception.

    This punishes the woman when her father was the person who broke his marital vows and trust of his kids.  I'm sorry but I don't get that he gets to be there on an occasion of love and commitment but the wife doesn't get to be there.

    Figure out what you want.  Do you want a relationship and an olive branch or do you want to constantly put the new wife on the side?  He's made a choice.  

    I can understand the other side but it's not one that I can support.  He made mistakes that are truly awful.  Figure out how you can move forward and if you can but your request says that spouses are not a package deal. 


  • He made mistakes but he’s also her dad who she has a lifelong relationship with. So I can understand wanting him there but not his wife, even though I’m not ordinarily on that side. 
  • LW shouldn't be getting married if they use phrases like, 'my love' and 'I was daddy's princess'.  But that's just my bias because it literally makes everything after it eye-roll inducing to me. 

    I think the carve-out here to not invite them as a couple is justified.  This was not a random woman, but a friend of LW's parents and someone who knew their family.  While she wasn't married or obligated to LW's mom in any way, it's still absolute bullshit and she doesn't deserve grace from LW, or their mom and brother. 

    As far as the money, if it was truly given without strings, I'd cash the check.  Dad is throwing money at the 'problem' he created by imploding the family.  It's guilt money.  Take it as a down payment for the trauma he caused.  
  • @mrsconn23 I'd keep the money too, for sure. 
  • mrsconn23 said:
    LW shouldn't be getting married if they use phrases like, 'my love' and 'I was daddy's princess'.  But that's just my bias because it literally makes everything after it eye-roll inducing to me. 

    I think the carve-out here to not invite them as a couple is justified.  This was not a random woman, but a friend of LW's parents and someone who knew their family.  While she wasn't married or obligated to LW's mom in any way, it's still absolute bullshit and she doesn't deserve grace from LW, or their mom and brother. 

    As far as the money, if it was truly given without strings, I'd cash the check.  Dad is throwing money at the 'problem' he created by imploding the family.  It's guilt money.  Take it as a down payment for the trauma he caused.  
    Oh I think the new person is guilty too.  My point is that it's an absolute mixed message and AGAIN says that the other woman has more blame if the dad gets to go but the other woman doesn't.  

    Also, I think the LW is really looking for a storybook fairytale here.  Calling her FI "her love" and wanting all the father/daughter moments here as a "daddy's girl" makes so much of her posting as not being realistic IMO. 

    Take dad's money if she wants. 
  • Her mother sounds amazing.  After everything that happened to her, she is still encouraging the LW to invite their father because she knows that is what the LW wants.  The only caveat was she didn't want his wife to come.  That's more than fair.

    The LW should contact her father.  Tell him that she wants him to come and he will be sent an invitation, but that neither she nor her mother can tolerate his wife being there.  The LW should also offer the check back, if he has changed his mind about it.  But I suspect he will want her to keep it.  After all, he sent it to her without knowing if she was going to invite him.

    I also think this is an exception to the "invite a person's SO" rule.  Yes, the father betrayed the LW's mother even more than his wife did.  But because the wife was the mother's friend of 30 years, she also directly betrayed her.  Plus, the father is the LW's parent, hence why she wants him there despite everything he did.  Whereas the father's wife is nothing to her and there is no reason for her to be at the wedding.  I wouldn't think the wife would even want to go.
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  • Stop listening to other people. Do you want your father there? If yes invite him. If not, then don’t. Keep them money if you’re fine taking his mo eh. 

    I think while I get the impulse to say his wife can’t come, that it’s childish if Dad is invited. Adults need to be adults. Mom won’t have to interact with her, look at her, or literally have anything to do with her. She needs to be big enough to recognize that if she’s willing to be in the same room as her former husband she needs to suck it up and acknowledge he has a wife who is there too. 
  • @mrsconn23, I just noticed your title!  Lol.  Agreed.  The LW kept referring to their FI as "my love" and it was a bit eyerolling.  There was one sentence I had to read a couple times because the phrase "my love" made it confusing to read.
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  • Stop listening to other people. Do you want your father there? If yes invite him. If not, then don’t. Keep them money if you’re fine taking his mo eh. 

    I think while I get the impulse to say his wife can’t come, that it’s childish if Dad is invited. Adults need to be adults. Mom won’t have to interact with her, look at her, or literally have anything to do with her. She needs to be big enough to recognize that if she’s willing to be in the same room as her former husband she needs to suck it up and acknowledge he has a wife who is there too. 
    Also I don't buy that the LW didn't have a relationship with her mom's best friend.  I have relationships with the people that are my parents friends and they were invited wedding guests.  Obviously they aren't the same relationships as a parent but I do not buy that the LW didn't know the person her father married.  

    I absolutely get the desire to make the exception.  I think doing so is a piss poor choice and a way that exempts the father who is the one who did the most damage. 
  • banana468 said:
    Stop listening to other people. Do you want your father there? If yes invite him. If not, then don’t. Keep them money if you’re fine taking his mo eh. 

    I think while I get the impulse to say his wife can’t come, that it’s childish if Dad is invited. Adults need to be adults. Mom won’t have to interact with her, look at her, or literally have anything to do with her. She needs to be big enough to recognize that if she’s willing to be in the same room as her former husband she needs to suck it up and acknowledge he has a wife who is there too. 
    Also I don't buy that the LW didn't have a relationship with her mom's best friend.  I have relationships with the people that are my parents friends and they were invited wedding guests.  Obviously they aren't the same relationships as a parent but I do not buy that the LW didn't know the person her father married.  

    I absolutely get the desire to make the exception.  I think doing so is a piss poor choice and a way that exempts the father who is the one who did the most damage. 
    I understand how that 'looks', but it's so emotionally complicated and it hasn't been that much time either.  I really don't think it's letting dad off the hook.  I'm sure LW is wrestling with not wanting to look back on their wedding day with regret (even though we all seem to do for one reason or another, ha) and they also don't want to have their wedding day go sideways.  It's so fraught.

    I think I'd feel differently if it was like, 10-15 years ago, but this was 5 years and it came about under the worst possible circumstances and during an already traumatic time.  LW, their mom, and brother could probably benefit from therapy to deal with this.  I also understand that weddings (or funerals, or other big life events) are not the time to make 'stands', but IF LW decided to draw this line in the sand, I can understand it. 

    I guess there are just times and circumstances that people can say, "I'm not going to be the bigger fucking person" and I'd understand it and support them.  This is one for me.  But I respect that it may not be a consensus opinion.   
  • Oh, it’s absolutely a bribe. 

  • I'm team take the money and ghost dad. Maybe call him on your 5th anniversary. 
  • ei34ei34 member
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    I'd 1000% take the money.  Lol @mrsconn23 I threw up in my mouth each time LW said "my love".  Though more than that being a reason to not be ready to be married- are they financially ready?

    Related side story but one of my BIL's parents divorced a few years ago, after 30+ years of marriage.  The dad was having an affair and is now with the other woman.  BIL's mom refuses to be in the room with her - doesn't even like being in the same room as her ex but knows he deserves to be at milestones.  My sister and BIL have invited the dad without his gf to their wedding, both baptisms, etc.  They see them separately on holidays, their kids' birthdays, etc.  Sis says she wishes they'd divorced a few decades ago because the doubling up is a lot and maybe they'd be more civil by now?  Who knows.  But no one (not even BIL's dad and his gf) batted an eye when he was invited to their wedding and she wasn't.  I do think that there are very rare instances in which a couple can be split. 

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