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Do Not Go On Vacation with Kelly

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edited July 2023 in Wedding Woes

“Kelly” and “Lily” and I have been a trio of friends for years and lived in the same town until Kelly moved about a year ago. Leading up to her move, I felt somewhat sad, but honestly mostly relieved she was out of my day-to-day life. I love her very much as a friend, but I’m happier that she’s a “catch up once a month on the phone” kind of a friend now and not a two-three times a week hang. Lily and I still see each other often and are closer than ever.

Kelly recently came into town, and it was so nice for the three of us to get together! We got a bit carried away and decided we all absolutely had to take a trip to Portugal together this winter. We’ve all been separately but never together, and decided it’s a special place to all of us that we’ll all definitely be returning to in the future. Now that the shine of our nice little visit has worn off, I absolutely do not want to take this trip (or any trip) with Kelly…but I would love to go with Lily!

My biggest reason is that Kelly has a disordered relationship with eating and exercise, which is both upsetting and tedious to be around up close and personal. There are also a ton of small reasons relating to her very particular preferences and general lack of planning skills. The three of us went on a short weekend trip a few years ago and it straight up wasn’t fun. Additionally, my and Lily’s partners know each other really well, but Kelly has only been with her partner for less than a year and Lily hasn’t met him. He’s nice, but not someone I would want to vacation with, and my partner didn’t click with him either. I’m looking at my vacation days now and wondering, is there any way Lily and I and our partners can head off to Portugal or somewhere else together? Or should we skip it this year and try to revisit it after some time has passed since the initial idea? I haven’t asked Lily what she thinks yet, and I’ve really avoided talking with her about Kelly in general because I don’t want to be negative and gossipy toward our friend together. And again, I really love Kelly, I just don’t want to try to navigate the world together even for a short time!

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Re: Do Not Go On Vacation with Kelly

  • No way should the LW go on a vacation with someone she already knows she doesn't like traveling with.  However, I'd let the idea die for a year or so in order to not hurt Kelly's feelings.

    I'm sure the LW would still have fun if they go on vacation with just their partner or maybe to a different destination with Lily.

    At this stage, it sounds like it was just a "Yeah!  We should all go to Portugal".  More often than not, plans like that fall apart anyway once real decisions start being made.  I'm not sure if Lily or Kelly actually expected this to come to fruition.
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  • I mean, it's your time and money and you shouldn't spend it with someone you don't enjoy spending time with, but something about this just has a mean girl vibe for me.

    Not everyone is a great international traveler, but LW is pointing to Kelly having only been with her partner for a year as a reason they wouldn't have fun? It's ok to admit that you just don't like her. 
  • You agreed to do this with Kelly and you want to reneg. Fine.  But be honest. That’s wildly hurtful and will end your friendship. 
  • banana468 said:
    I'm annoyed by all of these people especially the LW who writes like she had a fun drunken girl night and now realizes that making plans under the influence is piss poor decision making.

    The only thing I'd do now is not make plans with anyone.  And see what the future holds in terms of friendship with anyone.

    Not gonna lie - I don't *get* the desire to travel with people en masse when you don't live together and aren't in a relationship.  Vacations are stressful for the strongest friendships. 
    Agreed. I have one friend I like travelling with. Three I will do a weekend with. And then like when we chartered a yacht in Croatia Obvi needed a bigger group. But it gets tense quickly 
  • banana468 said:
    I'm annoyed by all of these people especially the LW who writes like she had a fun drunken girl night and now realizes that making plans under the influence is piss poor decision making.

    The only thing I'd do now is not make plans with anyone.  And see what the future holds in terms of friendship with anyone.

    Not gonna lie - I don't *get* the desire to travel with people en masse when you don't live together and aren't in a relationship.  Vacations are stressful for the strongest friendships. 
    I also got a vibe this might have been a "Wine O'Clock" decision. 
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  • banana468 said:
    I'm annoyed by all of these people especially the LW who writes like she had a fun drunken girl night and now realizes that making plans under the influence is piss poor decision making.

    The only thing I'd do now is not make plans with anyone.  And see what the future holds in terms of friendship with anyone.

    Not gonna lie - I don't *get* the desire to travel with people en masse when you don't live together and aren't in a relationship.  Vacations are stressful for the strongest friendships. 
    I also got a vibe this might have been a "Wine O'Clock" decision. 
    Right?!? 

    We have very few people we've traveled with and the more people you don't know well the harder it is especially if it's a desire to do things together.

    But the letter reads like it's someone who floated an idea and is trying to figure it out.  I'm at the point of being team giggle about the plans with a "Didn't that sound like a fun idea over Aperol Spritzes and charceuterie?  Unfortunately I think it's not going to work right now." 
  • ei34ei34 member
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    I'd cancel but on both of them.  If you cancel but only on Kelly it will end the friendship (which maybe you don't mind LW?).  Ditto those of you who also don't really enjoy traveling with friends...if you're not someone I'm currently living with (or happily lived with at some point in my life...my siblings and I have a grand time when we go to our Jersey Shore rental even though we haven't all been under the same roof since...2003?) I don't want to be in a new place with you.  

    What's funny is I read a Prudie-ish weekly column in NYT, Social Q's, and one of the questions this week was actually from a LW who was excluded from a friends' group trip.
  • If this was just one of those "we should do this" conversations - and it sounds like it was - don't bring it up again and let the idea die. If one of them brings it up, make an excuse if you have to. But if you want to stay friends with Kelly, you can't go ahead and plan the trip with just Lily, so don't entertain that idea any further.
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  • If no one makes any plans then you don’t go on vacation. But if Kelly comes back with flight times and hotel ideas, and you really don’t want to go, fess up to feeling excited in the wine buzz but after talking with your partner it’s not the right trip for you. No reasons needed. 
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