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Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry

Hey there.  This is my 2nd post on this board.  Just signed up today.  I did the intro post so all my info is in there.  I'll give a little background on my situation and am looking for any and all advice so thanks in advance.
BF and I met in August, moved in together in September, found out we were pregnant in October and lost the baby 10 days after the positive tests.  This was a special surprise because I've been told since I was 17 that I couldn't have kids, I am now 30, BF is 35. 
We've both been married, he has one child who is 7. We get along great, we only have custody every other weekend so that's no fun, but that's another post for another board.
So in the midst of the baby thing, we decided that we both wanted to get married, he actually brought it up first.  Well, that was obviously short lived because of the miscarriage.  One of my issues is that we don't even talk about marriage now.  BF tells me that we will be married someday, but he takes it seriously (duh, so do I) and that he doesn't want to rush anything because of how hurt he was in his divorce.  Both of our divorces were finalized in 2005, and I'm the 2nd serious relationship he's had in that time, I've had one since mine, was engaged, he called if off, again, another post, another board...haha.
So he "says" we'll get married, but after my experience with my ex FI, I have trouble believing him.  He hasn't given me any reason not to trust him or believe him , but I think I am SOO jaded as my last engagement was called off 1.5 months before the wedding was supposed to happen.
I know the timeline on our relationship is short, to say the least, but we've talked about it and we both feel like we "just knew" as soon as we met.  Cliche as it sounds.
So now after all of this that's happened in a short 5 months, we are planning a vacation to Las Vegas in March.  I signed up to receive deal from various places in Vegas as we want to take in a show and one of the emails I got was from a wedding venue.  When we talked about a wedding before, we knew we wanted small.  Like JOP small then a reception afterwards.  We've both done the big wedding before and are "over it" so to speak.  Well, we can get married in vegas for $89.  Even here in our rural area with the Judge and marriage licence it'd be $180. 
So my dilemma is, do I mention this to BF or let it go and just wait.  I am 30 and was with my ex FI for 3.5 years waiting, because I didn't want to "push"  him and I was blind and actually believed him when he said we'd get married, knowing now that he never had any intention of marrying me.
I know I can't hold current BF accountable for ex being a jerk face, but it just feels so painfully similar I don't know what to do. 
I know BF doesn't want to rush, but let's face it, I'm 30 he's 35, I know for most people that's not too old for kids, but I am in a different situation and after seeing that positive sign on the test, I know I want to be a mom (I'd questioned it for a looooong time) and I know I don't have a lot of time to make that happen, safely. 
Since we both know we wanted a small wedding and not a ton of people there, what better place than Vegas for $89??? BUT I don't know if I should say something or just let it go?  We aren't in a budget place that we can go "back" to Vegas and get married later this year and because of his job his vacation for all of 2011 is already set up, he has a week of in March, when we're going to LV, a week off in May, which we have his child and a week off in September. 
When we had the miscarriage, we decided that we would try again in October of this year, give us a year to get married, buy a bigger house and a better car for me to cart around a baby and his 7 year old.
SOOOOO, I'm trusting that he meant it, because we had this convo in front of the OB/GYN and his nurse at my checkup after we lost our baby. I mean, why would he feel the need to share that in front of random people?
I am sorry to ramble on and on.  I just don't know if it's worth saying anything or not.  I know you don't know him or me IRL so it's really hard to say, but if you were in my shoes, WWYD?
Thanks again and I hope to contribute to the board and not just post whiny ass questions...
I'm not sure if it's possible or not, but if I left anything out, feel free to ask away....
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Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry

  • CASK85CASK85 member
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    edited December 2011
    30 is not that old. And if you can't have kids naturally you can adopt. Give your relationship time to mature before you jump into marriage. 
  • edited December 2011

    I may be wrong, but it sounds like maybe you want to get married partly because you want a baby? That could be totally wrong, but as I was reading your post, that's what it sounded like. I dont' think that is a good plan at all. Five months is not long at all to know someone before getting married. It sounds a little like you may be rushing it to me. If you waited a year to get married, then you'd only be 31, which is still young enough to have a baby.  Second, it sounds like you may be pushing your BF a little. It soundslike he  wants to wait and you want it NOW. Communication is key. Sit down with your BF and tell him what you said on here, and see what he said. It needs to be a decision between the two of you.

    Also, have you looked into counseling? Couples counseling or individual? It's really hard to lose a baby, and counseling can help SO much.

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  • Wrkn925Wrkn925 member
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    edited December 2011
    My BF just turned 38, but, I'm 25.  We're not in a rush.  They can freeze that shiit.

    I don't want to doubt you.  I'm sorry that you've had such a rough time recently. But, have you considered holding off a little while?  Have you allowed yourself enough time to heal from such a great loss?
    Do you know his reasons for putting off getting married now?

    My best suggestion is to sit down and have a heart-to-heart with him.  I don't see anything wrong with discussing the Vegas deal.  If you can't have an open, honest discussion with your BF, then that is the greater issue. 

    It sounds like he set up a loose timeline.  That's great.  Maybe you just need to discuss the timeline in depth a little more? 

    Again, I'm sorry for the loss that both of you suffered.  I hope you get KU the first time you try again and have a happy, healthy nine months.
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  • edited December 2011
    You're right in recognizing that you can't hold your current BF responsible for how your ex-FI acted. There's a big difference between waiting 3 1/2 years and pushing it at 6 months. BTW, 3 1/2 years isn't too long to wait for someone who truly does want to marry you. I'm sorry that your ex basically strung you along in regards to marriage, but again, you can't hold your current BF responsible for that. Why the huge rush? You moved so quickly in other aspects of your relationship, why not take a little time to breath and just enjoy your relationship instead of pushing the next step? Leave yourselves something to look forward to in the future as you build your relationship.

  • calindicalindi member
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    edited December 2011
    Talk to him about it.  Tell him you want to be a Mom, and to be a family.  Ask him if he wants the same things, and if he has an idea of when he sees you both taking that next step (within the next year, in 2 years, when he gets a promotion, whatever it is).  Listen to him, too.

    Seriously, though, you've been dating only about 6 months.  You've moved in together and I'd say that's plenty for now (even at your "advanced" age - you're not old, hun!  There's no expiration date on you!).  Give it at least until this August before you start fretting about not having a ring yet - that's a perfectly normal and reasonable timeline.

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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:9c387a1b-05a1-4a26-9dd8-e2cddf90299b">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]I may be wrong, but it sounds like maybe you want to get married partly because you want a baby? <strong>This could be partially true.  I KNOW I want to be with him and since the baby thing, I know that he is the one I want to have kids with.  I don't want to come off as if I just want a baby or just want to be married.  I really do take it seriously, I had actually given up on that happening again for me before I met BF and he changed my mind on everything, he's said the same thing about me.   </strong>
    That could be totally wrong, but as I was reading your post, that's what it sounded like. I dont' think that is a good plan at all. Five months is not long at all to know someone before getting married. It sounds a little like you may be rushing it to me. If you waited a year to get married, then you'd only be 31, which is still young enough to have a baby.  Second, it sounds like you may be pushing your BF a little. It soundslike he  wants to wait and you want it NOW. <strong>I can see how my post sounds like this, however, I haven't said any of this to him, just vented in this post, so hopefully that saves me some issues there with pushing him because I know that will never have a good outcome. However, after being very single for 5 years I grew rather accustomed to my "freedom" and he turned all that right on its head and I won't lie, I would marry him today with no doubts or fears and feel very confident that I would be blissfully happy for the rest of my life.  Barf, I know, and I know things come up that you can't account for.   </strong>
    Communication is key. Sit down with your BF and tell him what you said on here, and see what he said. It needs to be a decision between the two of you. Also, have you looked into counseling? Couples counseling or individual? It's really hard to lose a baby, and counseling can help SO much.
    <strong>I haven't really checked into counselling, we've talked a lot about it and I have a really good friend who's had three miscarriages, so I've talked to her a lot, too.  I know it's not the same, but I have talked with BF and people that can relate and it has been very helpful.</strong>
    Posted by bourgehm[/QUOTE]
    Not sure if any of this makes any more sense than it did when I first posted but I really do appreciate your words. 
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:0ce6abcc-2f12-4f55-baa8-94083eff8244">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]30 is not that old. And if you can't have kids naturally you can adopt. Give your relationship time to mature before you jump into marriage. 
    Posted by cschiano[/QUOTE]

    I know you're right about this, and I know 30 doesn't make me old, but my outlying medical background with that general area put me in a different boat.  Something about being pregnant and having "our" baby makes me want it even more.  We've talked about not being able to have one and adoption is an option but I am still hoping I can have our child naturally.  Thanks so much for your reply.
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  • edited December 2011
    Thank you for the clarifications! You mentioned you hadn't talked to your BF about it yet (in your response to me), so that should be first on the list.  I'm also glad you do have people to talk to! All of this will work out in the end. I just said a prayer for you.
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  • Wrkn925Wrkn925 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:0ce6abcc-2f12-4f55-baa8-94083eff8244">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]30 is not that old. And if you can't have kids naturally <strong>you can adopt</strong>. Give your relationship time to mature before you jump into marriage. 
    Posted by cschiano[/QUOTE]

    It's SO SO hard to adopt.  I know a couple that has been through two miscarraiges, tried to adopt, it fell through, then got pregnant again, carried full-term, but the baby was born with a heart defect.  The baby died at a month old.

    I've watched two well-deserving parents have their dreams CRUSHED over and over.  They both have good jobs, a well-established, and still have problems with adopting and the expense. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:64010616-bc5a-4480-ae36-d983ae0f0752">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]My BF just turned 38, but, I'm 25.  We're not in a rush.  They can freeze that shiit.<strong>That's just funny...
    </strong> I don't want to doubt you.  I'm sorry that you've had such a rough time recently. But, have you considered holding off a little while?  Have you allowed yourself enough time to heal from such a great loss? <strong>I feel like dealing with it has been a day by day thing.  I know it's been a few months already but it's truly been a roller coaster, some days are good some days are bad.  Which I know sounds nuts only having known about the baby for ten whopping days, but it was long enough to fall in love with what was going to be my child. </strong>
    Do you know his reasons for putting off getting married now? <strong>As for  now he says he doesn't want to rush it.  However he was with his XW for 3.5 years before they got married and I was with my XH for the same amount of time and we were both divorced within 2 years so we are aware that time doesn't always mean better.  However, he's also mentioned he wants a bigger house and a better job for me (I'm only working 1/2 time right now, which is enough but of course, we could do better money wise). </strong>
    My best suggestion is to sit down and have a heart-to-heart with him.  I don't see anything wrong with discussing the Vegas deal.  If you can't have an open, honest discussion with your BF, then that is the greater issue. <strong>If I've learned anything from what we went through it's that there is nothing we can't tell each other.  Going through the miscarriage together brought us closer than I've ever been with anyone and it solidified my trust in him as far as "we" go.  He's been amazing and open and just wonderful.  I'd never expected to go through something like that but I know I couldn't have done it without his strength.
    </strong> It sounds like he set up a loose timeline.  That's great.  Maybe you just need to discuss the timeline in depth a little more?  <strong>I agree with this 110%, I know it's taboo to say I'm a planner on this board, but I am, I am a teacher, it's what I do.  I don't mean JUST our wedding, but life in general.  So I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say about myself, maybe I just need to loosen up a bit.  Like I said, I don't want to push him at all and I don't want to just get married because of a baby on the way, we had mentioned it before the baby thing happened.  I know, I know, we moved realllllllllllllly fast.  Maybe that's another issue, it seems like we started off at 90 to nothing and now we pulled the emergency brake.  Again, not there's anything wrong with that, but I guess I just feel like I'm running out of time.  Again, I know for most 30 year olds that isn't that big of a deal, and I know people have the issues I do and have babies every day, but when it happens personally you look at it differently, as we all well know.  I keep thinking of the "before you post here" on the board and I don't want to take anything away from what BF might have in mind so I guess that's why I am sluggish to mention the Vegas thing.  He is very sweet and considerate and I am sure he knows how and when he wants things to happen,  I just have a real problem with being impatient as all get out.  Losing what we have now or will have in the future is in NO way worth losing just because I have ants in my pants right now.  We've talked about being together forever, we've both said we're not going anywhere, I guess I just waited so long for this to come along, and even got to the point where I had accepted that it never would, that now that is has I am overly excited and just want to get a move on with it all.  </strong>
    Again, I'm sorry for the loss that both of you suffered.  I hope you get KU the first time you try again and have a happy, healthy nine months. <strong>Thanks, me too. </strong>
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  • Blue & WhiteBlue & White member
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    edited December 2011
    I would definitely talk to the BF too.  Especially since you've both been hurt before, the time factor is probably a bit of an issue.

    I also read your first post as though "this is such a great deal, should we get married?" and I doubt you wanted it to be read like that...but if I posed that idea to my BF, he'd be like "I don't care how great a deal it is - we're not getting married until we're ready" (I agree with the sentiment, definitely)

    As for babies, I'm a big proponent of adoption - and if you've been told you wouldn't be able to have babies, yea...there's a chance for a miracle, but there's also a chance to hurt the baby or yourself.  So I don't know that I'd risk much in that realm.

    Let us know how the talk with BF goes, but be reassured that there's no rush to get married.  You're with the guy you love right now - treasure that.
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:bb00e39b-eb6d-45bb-846f-e4d05c330aa1">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]You're right in recognizing that you can't hold your current BF responsible for how your ex-FI acted. There's a big difference between waiting 3 1/2 years and pushing it at 6 months. BTW, 3 1/2 years isn't too long to wait for someone who truly does want to marry you. I'm sorry that your ex basically strung you along in regards to marriage, but again, you can't hold your current BF responsible for that. Why the huge rush? <strong>I will honestly tell you I have no freaking idea.  I thought I'd be alone for the rest of my life and was just gonna be a mom to my dogs, so he came along, changed all that and now I just want to be his wife and a mom to our kids.  Maybe the baby changed all of that and I feel like I am on even more of a time limit.  </strong>You moved so quickly in other aspects of your relationship, why not take a little time to breath and just enjoy your relationship instead of pushing the next step? Leave yourselves something to look forward to in the future as you build your relationship.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:81b6c999-49a0-4612-92e0-2460d0e8a872">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]Talk to him about it.  Tell him you want to be a Mom, and to be a family.  Ask him if he wants the same things, <strong>We have done this, before and after the miscarriage and we do want the same things.  </strong>and if he has an idea of when he sees you both taking that next step (within the next year, in 2 years, when he gets a promotion, whatever it is).  <strong>I guess we've kind of done this too, when we had the miscarriage, he said he wanted to try again for a baby that we were actually planning on the same time next year, which would be October of this year. (clear as mud, huh??)</strong>Listen to him, too. Seriously, though, you've been dating only about 6 months.  You've moved in together and I'd say that's plenty for now (even at your "advanced" age - you're not old, hun!  There's no expiration date on you!). <strong>I sure feel like there is, at least on my uterus!!! LOL</strong> Give it at least until this August before you start fretting about not having a ring yet - that's a perfectly normal and reasonable timeline.<strong> Thanks for this.  I will try.  I promise...</strong>
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  • Wrkn925Wrkn925 member
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    edited December 2011
    You seem sane.  Thanks for answering all the questions.  I don't think that's ever happened.  You belong in the NEY Hall of Fame.  Most of the 2-post people belong in the Hall of Shame.

    I hope you two can have a productive, healthy conversation and get on some middle ground. 
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:ef6c9011-f308-463e-bdfa-16570e9563b8">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]Thank you for the clarifications! You mentioned you hadn't talked to your BF about it yet (in your response to me), so that should be first on the list. <strong>I'm sorry.  I'm all over the place.  I am sure it's all confusing as heck!!!</strong> I'm also glad you do have people to talk to! <em>All of this will work out in the end. I just said a prayer for you.-made me tear up a bit, I won't lie.  Thanks so much, it means more than I could ever say on an internet forum. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry : It's SO SO hard to adopt.  I know a couple that has been through two miscarraiges, tried to adopt, it fell through, then got pregnant again, carried full-term, but the baby was born with a heart defect.  The baby died at a month old. I've watched two well-deserving parents have their dreams CRUSHED over and over.  They both have good jobs, a well-established, and still have problems with adopting and the expense. 
    Posted by Wrkn925[/QUOTE]

    I am so sorry for their losses.  I cannot imagine that.  I only knew for ten days and my miscarriage rocked my entire world in a bad way.  I will pray for them that they're able to have their bundle of joy or at least find peace in whatever God has planned for them to have a family. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:7ee1c476-0c07-4f55-8f03-9300fe50a6f5">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]I would definitely talk to the BF too.  Especially since you've both been hurt before, the time factor is probably a bit of an issue. I also read your first post as though "this is such a great deal, should we get married?" and I doubt you wanted it to be read like that...but if I posed that idea to my BF, he'd be like "I don't care how great a deal it is - we're not getting married until we're ready" (I agree with the sentiment, definitely) <strong>--Agreed!  My BF would be the same, I'm sure. </strong>As for babies, I'm a big proponent of adoption - and if you've been told you wouldn't be able to have babies, yea...there's a chance for a miracle, but there's also a chance to hurt the baby or yourself.  So I don't know that I'd risk much in that realm. Let us know how the talk with BF goes, but be reassured that there's no rush to get married.  You're with the guy you love right now - treasure that.<strong>Thanks for that.  I am truly trying to focus on that more, but when I do it seems I always go to being his wife.  I don't want to sound like I am not happy with what I have because I know I have more than some people get in their entire lifetimes.  I never thought I could be this happy or treated this nicely.  BF actually got upset for me when I told him I thought it was "normal" to be "slapped around when I mess up" and the feeling I got (still get) when he pulled me to him and hugged me and said, "not all guys hit and no REAL man does, ever so you won't ever have to worry about that again" awwwww...sorry...cheesy again.  </strong>
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:bcfc9185-8eeb-41c9-8db7-fb20d27c5b8d">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]You seem sane.  <strong>THANK YOU FOR THAT, I WAS BEGINNING TO WONDER THAT MYSELF!!!! </strong>Thanks for answering all the questions.<strong> Hazards of me only working half time, I have TOO much time on my hands, I need a darn hobby!!!</strong>  I don't think that's ever happened.  You belong in the NEY Hall of Fame. <strong>LOL, I'll be looking for my plaque in the mail. </strong> Most of the 2-post people belong in the Hall of Shame. I hope you two can have a productive, healthy conversation and get on some middle ground. <strong>Thanks, me too.  I know I need to chill the hell out, but I just can't.  </strong>
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  • marleylikeairmarleylikeair member
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    edited December 2011
    Hi treb, welcome to the board! I haven't had a chance to read through all the responses here yet, but I just wanted to say I know what you mean by feeling like you have an expiration date, and you CAN'T let that rule your life or your decisions. You just can't.

    I was telling my second cousin (my mom's first cousin, who wanted kids but never had them) about this about a year ago. I told her that I was stressed out because, due to medical reasons, I figured I needed to get my life figured out and get married in time to have my first child (if I even decide to have any) before I turn 30. (I'll be 27 soon.)

    She said, gently, "You can't give [name of possible medical issue] that much power. If you took that power away from [medical issue], what else would you give it to?" Treb, if you ask me, you've got to put this thing on the back burner for a year or so and focus on your relationship, your career, your hobbies, your friends, and your family. You have to live your life as if you *didn't* have a medical issue dictating things. Do as you would under normal circumstances as much as possible. Things will work out as they're meant to. You can't force your life to fall in line perfectly in order to make your reproductive goals happen exactly as you imagine them.

    I moved in with BF fairly quickly and was 100% sure he was the person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. But that doesn't mean there aren't issues we need to work out together before we get engaged! Once the initial euphoria of falling in love wore off a bit, I realized we had plenty of time, and that we needed to give it a year or so to truly see what life with each other is like with our brains *not* heavily under the influence of those natural falling-in-love drugs (endorphins, or whatever the cocktail is).

    As for bringing up Vegas, I'd advise you to wait. But that doesn't mean you can't, as PPs have suggested, sit down and have a talk about what your goals are and when you see getting married and having kids (One year? Two? Five?)

    Good luck! I know everything will work out one way or another. And I'm very sorry for your loss.
  • edited December 2011
    I'm sorry for your loss but I do feel like you are rushing things. Your overall relationship has moved at a very fast pace. When people find out that they are going to be a parent sometimes they can say things out of emotion. At the time he may have thought it was a good idea to get married right away but now that a baby is no longer on the way it looks like he changed his mind and wants to take things a little slower.

    Honestly, I think he has the right idea. You both have been through a lot and it is best not to jump into thing head first. Take some time and get to know each other better. I think you should sit down and talk to him about having another baby if that is what you want. Explain to him that you want to try again and want to know what his feelings are on it. While I do think you should wait on that as well it is really your decision.

    Just remember you do not want someone to marry you because you pushed them into. Also pushing him into something he is not ready for is a good way to ensure that history repeats itself.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:0e5406ea-a6f1-4935-84d6-1b1152b15783">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]Hi treb, welcome to the board! I haven't had a chance to read through all the responses here yet, but I just wanted to say I know what you mean by feeling like you have an expiration date, and you CAN'T let that rule your life or your decisions. You just can't. I was telling my second cousin (my mom's first cousin, who wanted kids but never had them) about this about a year ago. I told her that I was stressed out because, due to medical reasons, I figured I needed to get my life figured out and get married in time to have my first child (if I even decide to have any) before I turn 30. (I'll be 27 soon.) She said, gently, "You can't give [name of possible medical issue] that much power. If you took that power away from [medical issue], what else would you give it to?" Treb, if you ask me, you've got to put this thing on the back burner for a year or so and focus on your relationship, your career, your hobbies, your friends, and your family. You have to live your life as if you *didn't* have a medical issue dictating things. Do as you would under normal circumstances as much as possible. Things will work out as they're meant to. You can't force your life to fall in line perfectly in order to make your reproductive goals happen exactly as you imagine them. I moved in with BF fairly quickly and was 100% sure he was the person I wanted to spend the rest of my life with. But that doesn't mean there aren't issues we need to work out together before we get engaged! Once the initial euphoria of falling in love wore off a bit, I realized we had plenty of time, and that we needed to give it a year or so to truly see what life with each other is like with our brains *not* heavily under the influence of those natural falling-in-love drugs (endorphins, or whatever the cocktail is). As for bringing up Vegas, I'd advise you to wait. But that doesn't mean you can't, as PPs have suggested, sit down and have a talk about what your goals are and when you see getting married and having kids (One year? Two? Five?) Good luck! I know everything will work out one way or another. And I'm very sorry for your loss.
    Posted by marleylikeair[/QUOTE]

    thank you so much for all of this.  It really does put things in perspective. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:122375fa-2a62-48cb-8348-d85d0de7b49f">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'm sorry for your loss but I do feel like you are rushing things. Your overall relationship has moved at a very fast pace. When people find out that they are going to be a parent sometimes they can say things out of emotion. At the time he may have thought it was a good idea to get married right away but now that a baby is no longer on the way it looks like he changed his mind and wants to take things a little slower. Honestly, I think he has the right idea. You both have been through a lot and it is best not to jump into thing head first. Take some time and get to know each other better. I think you should sit down and talk to him about having another baby if that is what you want. Explain to him that you want to try again and want to know what his feelings are on it. While I do think you should wait on that as well it is really your decision. Just remember you do not want someone to marry you because you pushed them into. Also pushing him into something he is not ready for is a good way to ensure that history repeats itself. <strong>THIS is exactly what I don't want to do.  Thanks a ton :O)</strong>
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    Audgie, ha ha I'm sorry. I guess great minds think alike lol.
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  • desertsundesertsun member
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    edited December 2011

    I get being 30 and feeling like time is getting short. I'm turning 29 next week, so I really, truly feel you on this.

    But it's too soon. You need longer to develop a stronger trust with this man. Your past experiences are making you feel a little insecure, and that is OKAY.

    You can both kinda think or feel like it's just so right, but based on what you've said, I think you need more time to really believe that. To KNOW, deep down in your bones and in your gut, that you can trust this man.

    A marriage and a baby are not going to give you that trust or that security that you're looking for.

    It takes TIME to develop that sense that this is a person that you can really, truly rely on to NOT break it off 1.5 months before the wedding. To NOT break your heart.

    So just slow down and give it some more time. Really, another year or another six months might be all you need. So stop pushing for that wedding, and start looking at how your BF acts. Does he always put you first? Does he treat you the way you want to be treated ALL the time? Do his actions demonstrate his commitment to a future together (asking for your input on big decisions, using "we" instead of "I", etc etc)? Those are the things you need to be looking for.

    Good luck and please stick around and keep us updated!


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  • edited December 2011
    What desert said.

    Oh and never get married because it's only $89.  For realz.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:98c8b113-e51c-49ef-9655-494fef36a1b6">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]What desert said. <em>Oh and never get married because it's only $89</em>.  <strong>haha. that wouldn't be the only reason, of course, was just pointing out that was the email  "deal" I got this week and we both know we don't want to spend a ton of  money on the wedding, we want the marriage not the day. that's too funny though.  Wonder how many people do that? 
    </strong>For realz.
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  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_say-something-let-long-sorry?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:3606c54a-7c64-49fc-aa8a-67e541fdadbcPost:ae1a0a72-63be-4911-b10c-66c4e1d47ece">Re: Say something or let it go *LONG* Sorry</a>:
    [QUOTE]I get being 30 and feeling like time is getting short. I'm turning 29 next week, so I really, truly feel you on this. But it's too soon. You need longer to develop a stronger trust with this man. Your past experiences are making you feel a little insecure, and that is OKAY. You can both kinda think or feel like it's just so right, but based on what you've said, I think you need more time to really believe that. To KNOW, deep down in your bones and in your gut, that you can trust this man. A marriage and a baby are not going to give you that trust or that security that you're looking for. It takes TIME to develop that sense that this is a person that you can really, truly rely on to NOT break it off 1.5 months before the wedding. To NOT break your heart. So just slow down and give it some more time. Really, another year or another six months might be all you need. So stop pushing for that wedding, and start looking at how your BF acts. Does he always put you first? Does he treat you the way you want to be treated ALL the time? Do his actions demonstrate his commitment to a future together (asking for your input on big decisions, using "we" instead of "I", etc etc)? Those are the things you need to be looking for. Good luck and please stick around and keep us updated!
    Posted by desertsun[/QUOTE]
     Thanks so much for this.  :O)
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  • edited December 2011
    Ah, I was just given ya crap.

    And yes, I know what you mean about the money factor.  We had a very small "elopement" ceremony and then a weekend HM and it was absolutely perfect. 
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