Vent: BFF's fake wedding

Ollie08

I've been friends with this girl since 2nd grade. We were BFFs until she moved in middle school. We still talk and keep in touch, but naturally have drifted a bit over the years. Summer of this year she announced to the world that she was engaged. She secretly confided in me though, that she's already married. Her "fiance" is in the military and was being transferred to Texas, so they got married in order for her to live with him etc.

Anyway, no one really knows except me and her current BFF. Her sister doesn't know, her parents don't know. It's been a burden to sit here and watch her plan her PPD when she really got married in March of this year. I've kept my mouth shut because I love her and she's a really good friend of mine, and I know she just wants to have that moment.

Fast forward to today, she's had a bunch of health problems and hasn't been able to work (she's a nurse) for 6 weeks now. I get a post on Facebook begging me for votes for her to win this contest for her wedding, and the story is this big sob story about her health issues and how she just wants to walk down the aisle to the man she'll spend forever with etc. I just can't help but be left with a really bad taste in my mouth.

I don't know what I'm looking for. I don't think I'm looking for anything. I just feel so disappointed and frustrated by what she's doing. But I get that she doesn't seem to understand it. It's not like she's on TK and has all of you sound ladies to tell her she's an idiot. Anyway, sorry for rambling.

AudgiePodge

I majorly side-eye secretly getting married then having a PPD, especially in the military.

Yet, I have no problem if someone wants to do that if they make it known that they already wed beforehand.  

Weird?

lennonkdc

ugh! I hear you. BF's sis did this (JOP then PPD later) b/c her BF was being sent to Japan (Marine). Its rude, deceitful and makes the bride look spoiled. Adults make choices, if you want to get married so you can go where ever, then have the wedding you can have at that moment, or wait for your PPD. There are so many women who have waited/ postponed weddings for so many reasons. You are not a special snowflake. There I said it. 

I'm sorry you have to be a party to her shenanigans. Its frustrating and sad to see a friend act in such a fashion. 

jemmini6

Yikes.  I know PPDs aren't looked on well on TK in general, but I normally don't mind them as long as no one is being lied to.  So the fact that she's lying to her family, and now random people to win a "wedding" is really bad.  I'm sorry you are in the middle of this.

Perhaps you could subtly hint to her that she should 'come out' to everyone?  Anything more than sublte though and I wouldn't get involved, this is her mistake.  Her family will find out eventually and they will be PISSED and she'll have to deal with that (and she'll probably come crying to at that point to).

peekaboo2011

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[QUOTE]I majorly side-eye secretly getting married then having a PPD, especially in the military. Yet, I have no problem if someone wants to do that if they make it known that they already wed beforehand.   Weird?
Posted by AudgiePodge[/QUOTE]

<div>Eh.  I kind of agree.</div><div>
</div><div>I know this girl who got married to her now H about 8 months before they were supposed to get married.  I think everyone knew, but she said it was b/c he enlisted.  They had to cancel the PPD.  I wasn't invited, but it left a bad taste in my mouth too. </div><div>
</div><div>She also was adamantly opposed to inviting his friends...and so I called and let the cat out of the bag on the date and location...which I found after stalking her on TK.  I don't know if she ever posted, but she had a wedding website up.  Oops</div>

zipis1

I'm the dsame as Audgie. If they had made it known that they were already married but wanted to invite everyone to a shindig later I'd not be bothered at all by it. But hiding it makes it yucky.

lennonkdc

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[QUOTE]I'm the dsame as Audgie. If they had made it known that they were already married but wanted to invite everyone to a shindig later I'd not be bothered at all by it. But hiding it makes it yucky.
Posted by zipis1[/QUOTE]

<div>I think I agree with this. It's the lying that kills me. Though I must admit, if I knew I was going to a PPD/ vow renewel/ marriage blessing/ whatever, I think it might affect the gift I select. But it would totally depend on how long the couple has been married and why they are having a PPD.</div><div>
</div><div>Oddly enough, I know a couple that JOP'd it b/c the woman was pregnant and haveing some major complications, she lost her insurance, and so they went to the JOP and then moved up the church wedding so it was in the same month. They were honest about it, so it never really bothered me. </div>

Ollie08

No Audgie, I don't think it's weird at all. You actually put in to words what I was feeling. It would be one thing if she openly admitted it, but everyone is under the impression that she's just engaged and not married.

I understand why she hasn't told her parents. They would kill her if they found out she's already married and they weren't there. But it still just rubs me the wrong way.

Elle1036

Hmmm, yeah. This is one area where I really seem to differ from most TK posters, but the whole courthouse wedding followed by the PPD has never bothered me much. The whole contest thing, though, would definitely bug me.

wink0erin

I know several people who got married JOP and then decided to have a PPD later, and it doesn't bother me as long as they don't lie about it.

With some couple I know there were decent reasons (deployment, child custody suit, illness/injury) but there were a couple that made me side-eye (one eloped for fun on a whim, told their family/friends that they only got engaged on their vacation, and proceeded to plan a huge crazy PPD while already married and lying to EVERYONE.)

jemmini6

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[QUOTE]No Audgie, I don't think it's weird at all. You actually put in to words what I was feeling. It would be one thing if she openly admitted it, but everyone is under the impression that she's just engaged and not married. <strong>I understand why she hasn't told her parents. They would kill her if they found out she's already married and they weren't there</strong>. But it still just rubs me the wrong way.
Posted by Ollie08[/QUOTE]


See, that almost makes the lie worse to me.  Because they are going to find out eventually, I really doubt that most people can keep that kind of a secret forever.  And then it's just going to be worse because she lied to them about it on top of getting married without them.

How's she going to hide the fact that they won't be signing a marriage license?  Both sets of our parents and our bridal party came back to our room after the wedding while we signed ours...so I think that'd be pretty obvious to people when they don't sign anything...

Ollie08

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : <strong>See, that almost makes the lie worse to me.  Because they are going to find out eventually,</strong> I really doubt that most people can keep that kind of a secret forever.  And then it's just going to be worse because she lied to them about it on top of getting married without them. <strong>How's she going to hide the fact that they won't be signing a marriage license?</strong>  Both sets of our parents and our bridal party came back to our room after the wedding while we signed ours...so I think that'd be pretty obvious to people when they don't sign anything...
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

I know, that's what I think. She seems to be under the impression that if she waits 5 or 10 years and then tells them, they won't be as ticked. I'm not sure though.

As for the marriage license, I wondered about that myself. But I wonder if she's going to have a fake one to sign or something. IDK it's just weird to me.

cu97tiger

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[QUOTE]Hmmm, yeah. This is one area where I really seem to differ from most TK posters, but the whole courthouse wedding followed by the PPD has never bothered me much. The whole contest thing, though, would definitely bug me.
Posted by Elle1036[/QUOTE]

<div>I'm not bugged that they did a courthouse thing and want a PPD, I'm bugged that she is lying to everyone about it.</div><div>
</div><div>So, here's a question. If someone you knew was doing a vow renewal (say 5 or 10-years), would you side-eye them for having a shower? I'm totally annoyed by this, but am wondering if I'm being too judgemental.</div>

jemmini6

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : In some states you sign it when you register and then all the minister has to do is sign it and drop it in the mail.  No witnesses either!
Posted by sunbird627[/QUOTE]


Ah, you're right, I have heard about other state's requirements.

But still, they will find out eventually, whether it's on the 'wedding' day, or 10 years later, they'll find out and then it'll be 1000x worse than if they just told them upfront.

Ollie08

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : In some states you sign it when you register and then all the minister has to do is sign it and drop it in the mail.  No witnesses either!
Posted by sunbird627[/QUOTE]

Really? That's cool! I know here in FL (they're getting married here) you have to sign and have it witnessed as well as notarized by the officiant. So I guess the officiant will have to be in on it as well.

TheMutleys

The way that I see it...

If you are not willing to be honest about your life and deal with the consequences that come with your choices, then you have no business being married. 

I mainly have an issue with the lying.  I don't agree with getting married and then having a PPD but I don't judge those like I do to the people who blatantly lie to their nearest and dearest.  It is beyond rude and disrespectful. 

I do think it is weird to get married and then have a PPD.  I can understand having a celebration at a later date, but it is NOT a wedding/PPD. 

Personally, I would have major issues continuing to be friends with someone who is a-okay with treating those she supposedly loves like this. 

Ollie08

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : I'm not bugged that they did a courthouse thing and want a PPD, I'm bugged that she is lying to everyone about it. So, here's a question. <strong>If someone you knew was doing a vow renewal (say 5 or 10-years), would you side-eye them for having a shower?</strong> I'm totally annoyed by this, but am wondering if I'm being too judgemental.
Posted by cu97tiger[/QUOTE]

Absolutely I would side eye them for that! They are a grown married couple, they don't need us to "shower" them with gifts. No way. That would tick me off.

wink0erin

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : I'm not bugged that they did a courthouse thing and want a PPD, I'm bugged that she is lying to everyone about it. So, here's a question. If someone you knew was doing a vow renewal (say 5 or 10-years), would you side-eye them for having a shower? I'm totally annoyed by this, but am wondering if I'm being too judgemental.
Posted by cu97tiger[/QUOTE]

Well, if they throw the shower for themselves, yeah I'd be annoyed. But if a family member/friend was throwing one it wouldn't bother me much. Plus, I'm assuming I know them well enough to know they eloped before and I love them enough to want to attend their shower anyway.

Ollie08

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[QUOTE]Personally, I would have major issues continuing to be friends with someone who is a-okay with treating those she supposedly loves like this. 
Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

I agree. I honestly just don't think she sees it that way.

lennonkdc

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[QUOTE] If someone you knew was doing a vow renewal (say 5 or 10-years), would you side-eye them for having a shower? I'm totally annoyed by this, but am wondering if I'm being too judgemental.
Posted by cu97tiger[/QUOTE]

<div>
</div><div>I would side eye them big time. Its a shame that you didn't get a shower the first time, but there are lots of women who don't have showers and their marriages are still vaild :)</div><div>
</div><div>I don't think that you are being judgemental at all. It killed me knowing that I had to sit through BF's sister shower and that she had already been married for almost 3 months. I don't think it matters how long the couple in question has been married.</div>

cu97tiger

The worst is that it isn't even someone I know. It's someone on my month board, and it is getting so hard not to call them out on being all 'my PPD' about everything when IT ISN'T YOUR PPD!!!

lennonkdc

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[QUOTE]The worst is that it isn't even someone I know. It's someone on my month board, and it is getting so hard not to call them out on being all 'my PPD' about everything when IT ISN'T YOUR PPD!!!
Posted by cu97tiger[/QUOTE]

<div>Break out the torches and pitch forks, NEY will set her straight (and bring E while we're at it!)</div>

jemmini6

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : I would side eye them big time. Its a shame that you didn't get a shower the first time, <strong>but there are lots of women who don't have showers and their marriages are still vaild :) </strong>I don't think that you are being judgemental at all. It killed me knowing that I had to sit through BF's sister shower and that she had already been married for almost 3 months. I don't think it matters how long the couple in question has been married.
Posted by lennonkdc[/QUOTE]

Yup!

I didn't have a shower.  I was offered one and turned it down because 1.  I don't like showers and 2.  I thought it would be inappropriate since we had less than 30 items on our registry and some of them were in a higher price range than most people would spend for a shower. (we really didn't need that much for our house).

So yeah, somone who's been married for a few years already should definitely not be having a shower, that's pretty ridiculous.  Tiger - you shouldn't be afraid to call her out on it...I called some people on my month board out on a few things and they got over it (they were pretty bad...like getting pissed to the point of wanting to kick a BM out of her wedding because she didn't attend the shower...that was a 5 hour drive.  Ridiculous)

wink0erin

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : Yup! I didn't have a shower.  I was offered one and turned it down because 1.  I don't like showers and 2.  I thought it would be inappropriate since we had less than 30 items on our registry and some of them were in a higher price range than most people would spend for a shower. (we really didn't need that much for our house). <strong>So yeah, somone who's been married for a few years already should definitely not be having a shower, that's pretty ridiculous.</strong>  Tiger - you shouldn't be afraid to call her out on it...I called some people on my month board out on a few things and they got over it (they were pretty bad...like getting pissed to the point of wanting to kick a BM out of her wedding because she didn't attend the shower...that was a 5 hour drive.  Ridiculous)
Posted by jemmini6[/QUOTE]

Do you feel the same way about couples that have been living together? I'm just curious because I know its a grey area.

jemmini6

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : Do you feel the same way about couples that have been living together? I'm just curious because I know its a grey area.
Posted by wink0erin[/QUOTE]

No because I don't think the appropriateness of a shower is based off of need, but off of the life-changing event.   A PPD is not a life changing event because you are already married.  A 'real' wedding is a life changing event whether you've never lived together.

TheMutleys

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[QUOTE]The worst is that it isn't even someone I know. It's someone on my month board, and it is getting so hard not to call them out on being all 'my PPD' about everything when IT ISN'T YOUR PPD!!!
Posted by cu97tiger[/QUOTE]

I'd feel better not knowing the person.  For fun, I would just call her out in passive aggressive ways.

That is beyond ridiculous.  The only way that I could potentially see having a shower after a couple is already married is IF their house burned down or something happened to everything they owned.  In that case, I wouldn't think twice about attending a shower/house warming/whatever. 

oceana919

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[QUOTE]I majorly side-eye secretly getting married then having a PPD, especially in the military. Yet, I have no problem if someone wants to do that if they make it known that they already wed beforehand.   Weird?
Posted by AudgiePodge[/QUOTE]

I don't think that's weird. I honestly have no problem with a couple that has a wedding when they are already legally married (whether it be due to one/both being in the military, they have to legalize it in their home country before they can have a DW), so long as they are not deliberately concealing the fact that they are, in fact, already married. I've had friends who have been in that situation before and I fully supported what they did. Sometimes things happen in life that result in less than ideal circumstances - I don't think that should mean that they lose the right to have the kind of wedding they want, so long as they are honest with the people in their lives.

And, sick or not, I think the fact that she's begging for votes for a PPD while hiding the fact that she's already married is uber-shady.

leia1979

I agree with PP that it's the lying that bothers me more than anything else. No one has to attend your PPD, so at least if they know the truth, they can make an informed decision.

I also don't like showers. I turned mine down. None of my friends had one, and I think they're gift grabby.

oceana919

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Vent: BFF's fake wedding : I'm not bugged that they did a courthouse thing and want a PPD, I'm bugged that she is lying to everyone about it. <strong>So, here's a question. If someone you knew was doing a vow renewal (say 5 or 10-years), would you side-eye them for having a shower? I'm totally annoyed by this, but am wondering if I'm being too judgemental.</strong>
Posted by cu97tiger[/QUOTE]

The side-eye that would earn from me would throw the planet off its alignment. That is beyond tacky.

I have zero problem with couples renewing their vows at 5, 10, 15 years...I actually think that's charming, the idea of wanting to reaffirm the promises you made to one another. But registering again and having another shower - that's beyond ridiculous. If you can't budget and save and purchase the things you want for your own home at that point, maybe you weren't meant to have them just yet.

DH and I are hoping to renew ours on our 5th...hopefully by that point, we'll have our own home and at least one kid, and we'd probably do a quiet little shindig in our own backyard with our closest fam/friends. No gifts, no showers, no big fat PPD...just a happy night with our nearest and dearest. I like the idea of reaffirming the promises we made to one another, but also, making new promises to our children.

But again, that's my two cents. Some people might look at that as being AWish or ridiculous. Then again, they won't be coming and enjoying my shrimp kabobs. :P

elannis

I'm just curious and can't figure out what PPD means, lol. I do agree with Audgie though. As long as everyone knows, then it'd be alright, but lying like that isn't right.

oceana919

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[QUOTE]I'm just curious and can't figure out what PPD means, lol. I do agree with Audgie though. As long as everyone knows, then it'd be alright, but lying like that isn't right.
Posted by elannis[/QUOTE]

PPD = pretty princess day