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Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes)

http://www.cnn.com/2012/01/23/showbiz/seal-klum-split/index.html?hpt=hp_bn4

Seven years of marriage and four children.  They just renewed their vows a year ago.  And every interview I read of Klum she always gushed about her husband.

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Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes)

  • Don't you just love celebrity couples? 
  • You gotta admit that it *seems* more likely for celebrity couples.  I don't know any stats, but it seems that when both of the spouses are celebrities (this is important) then they have more than a 50% chance of divorce.

    Maybe it's just a false perception that the media puts out there, I don't know.

    It's just so hard to name many hollywood couples that haven't split.  

    I do admit that 7 years is at least a lot longer than many other marriages.  I think what gets me is how they just renewed vows a year ago, and Klum gushed about him in her last interview with Piers Morgan in October.  But after some "deep soul searching" (how deep is this soul?) they've decided to call it quits.



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  • They renew their vows every year.  To me, couples who renew their vows every year really don't have what it takes to make it the long haul.  Hear that Mariah and Nick?!
  • You're right Perry and Brand's divorce shattered my faith in marriage far more.  

    If THOSE TWO can't make marriage work, how is an ordinary person like myself going to do it?

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    [QUOTE]You gotta admit that it *seems* more likely for celebrity couples.  I don't know any stats, but it seems that when both of the spouses are celebrities (this is important) then they have more than a 50% chance of divorce. Maybe it's just a false perception that the media puts out there, I don't know. It's just so hard to name many hollywood couples that haven't split.   I do admit that 7 years is at least a lot longer than many other marriages.  I think what gets me is how they just renewed vows a year ago, and Klum gushed about him in her last interview with Piers Morgan in October.  <strong>But after some "deep soul searching" (how deep is this soul?) they've decided to call it quits.
    </strong>Posted by monkeysip[/QUOTE]
    You do realize quotes like that are just for PR purposes right?  No one's going to say, you know what, he just bugs the shiit out of me constantly and I can't stand being married to him one more second.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : You do realize quotes like that are just for PR purposes right?  No one's going to say, you know what, he just bugs the shiit out of me constantly and I can't stand being married to him one more second.
    Posted by emarston1[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Lol, yeah I guess you're right.  It'd be a lot better if they just said that though!

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : You missed the point.  That article isn't about the divorce.  It's about Katy Perry no longer following Russell Brand on Twitter.  It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

    The real question would be if she defriended him on facebook because you cannot salvage a relationship after you've been defriended.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : You missed the point.  That article isn't about the divorce.  It's about Katy Perry no longer following Russell Brand on Twitter.  It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

    <div>Look, okay, the divorce was difficult enough.  I don't want to hear about the effects of the divorce on their twittering.  My God, it's Monday, I can't handle any more bad news.</div>

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    [QUOTE]  It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

    You are now my favorite person of the day becase that song is now stuck in my head.

    Now, if Matt Damon gets a divorce, I might be upset about that.
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  • edited January 2012
    I still think its sad regardless if they are celebrities or not.

    They both seem like good people.
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  • Well, it replaced Justin Bieber that was blaring from someones car on the way into work, so don't be sorry.
    : )
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    [QUOTE]Well, it replaced Justin Bieber that was blaring from someones car on the way into work, so don't be sorry. : )
    Posted by algray05[/QUOTE]

    This scares me that there is someone who is old enough to drive would be blaring his "music".  Although damn it now I have Baby Baby Baby Oh stuck in my head.  DAMN YOU JB!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : It's sad for the people involved sure but I'm not about to get worked up over 2 people I don't know ending a relationship.  Relationships end every second of every day.  If you get worked up over every one there's no time for being happy.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

    That I completely understand. I saw the Yahoo news article and thought "oh, that's sad, they seemed happy" and than I moved on with my life. I don't see a point in getting absorbed in celebritie's lives, but I also wouldn't roll my eyes and ridicule them for it. (except for hte stuff like Katy Perry's twitter feed, that's just stupid)
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : That I completely understand. I saw the Yahoo news article and thought "oh, that's sad, they seemed happy" and than I moved on with my life. I don't see a point in getting absorbed in celebritie's lives, but I also wouldn't roll my eyes and ridicule them for it. (except for hte stuff like Katy Perry's twitter feed, that's just stupid)
    Posted by LizziebeeUT[/QUOTE]

    <div>Just to clarify, the rolling of my eyes was at the "now i've lost faith in marriage" part because there are people (just look at the comments on the article) that say that this is proof that marriage doesn't work.  </div><div>
    </div><div>I actually really liked both of them, but I can't help but side-eye statements about them doing deep soul-searching because it *seems* that they and other celebrities don't take a whole lot of time to come to such a monumentally tragic (IMO) decision as divorce.</div><div>
    </div><div>More than anything, I feel bad for their children.</div>

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  • Now I am even more appreciative of the end of the world....
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : Just to clarify, the rolling of my eyes was at the "now i've lost faith in marriage" part because there are people (just look at the comments on the article) that say that this is proof that marriage doesn't work.   I actually really liked both of them, <strong>but I can't help but side-eye statements about them doing deep soul-searching because it *seems* that they and other celebrities don't take a whole lot of time to come to such a monumentally tragic (IMO) decision as divorce.</strong> More than anything, I feel bad for their children.
    Posted by monkeysip[/QUOTE]
    But you don't know that.  Just because she was gushing about him in October doesn't mean she actually felt that way.  They would have been having problems for years and been in couples counseling.

    Now when Kim K. was saying that she really tried to make her marriage work, I definitely rolled my eyes at that.
  • edited January 2012
    Personally I thought it was equal parts horrific/funny when Demi/Ashton blew up the internet, and all anyone (seemed) to say about it was "Well of course! Look how much older she is than him!! DUH!"

    Have at it. : )
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    [QUOTE]Personally I thought it was equal parts horrific/funny when Demi/Ashton blew up the internet, and all anyone (seemed) to say about it was "Well of course! Look how much older she is than him!! DUH!" Have at it. : )
    Posted by algray05[/QUOTE]
    Right because that's what made him cheat - she was just too old for him :::eye roll:::  He's a douche.
  • That's why I said *seems* and mentioned other celebrities.  I don't know these people, and you guys are right, maybe they've felt this way for a long time.  Heck, maybe their vow renewal was an attempt to reignite a dying flame.

    Like I said before, maybe it's just a false perception people (like me) get from the media.  

    Either way, it seems that these celebrities aren't being genuine (big surprise!).  Maybe her gushing was all a front, but why is that okay?  

    I'll also add that it's not really just celebrities, and I think many people who divorce rush into it.  But celebrities are in the public eye, so they get more flack for it.  There's no set amount of time that qualifies as "deep" soul searching vs. "shallow" soul searching, but that's why I find the term funny.  I didn't use the term "deep soul searching"--they did.  



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    [QUOTE]That's why I said *seems* and mentioned other celebrities.  I don't know these people, and you guys are right, maybe they've felt this way for a long time.  Heck, maybe their vow renewal was an attempt to reignite a dying flame. Like I said before, maybe it's just a false perception people (like me) get from the media.   Either way, it seems that these celebrities aren't being genuine (big surprise!).  <strong>Maybe her gushing was all a front, but why is that okay?</strong>   I'll also add that it's not really just celebrities, and I think many people who divorce rush into it.  But celebrities are in the public eye, so they get more flack for it.  There's no set amount of time that qualifies as "deep" soul searching vs. "shallow" soul searching, but that's why I find the term funny.  I didn't use the term "deep soul searching"--they did.  
    Posted by monkeysip[/QUOTE]

    Because their relationship (and their problems) are their business and no one else's.  It's the same reason that when I have a huge fight with DH, I don't go blabbing about it to my friends/family or write about it on facebook.  It's no one's business other than our own.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : You're making an awful lot of assumptions about these couples, and using those assumptions to judge them.  I judge you for this.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm not really sure what assumptions I made other than that it didn't seem to take long for them to decide to split up.  True, that's an assumption.  And I understand you judging me for it.  But I don't know what else I said that was an assumption...</div>

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : Because their relationship (and their problems) are their business and no one else's.  It's the same reason that when I have a huge fight with DH, I don't go blabbing about it to my friends/family or write about it on facebook.  It's no one's business other than our own.
    Posted by emarston1[/QUOTE]

    <div>I didn't say it is my business.  But if it's not our business, why do celebrities go on and on gushing?  No one ASKED her to talk all about her husband.  It doesn't matter to me whether celebrities want to talk about their love lives or not.  And I typically don't even read that stuff.</div><div>
    </div><div>My point was simply that everyone's response to me on this board was that maybe her gushing was all just a front, and she was really unhappy.  Hey, if she's unhappy and doesn't want to tell people, that's fine.  But why do people like that feel the need to go on and on about their great marriages, then?  I just find it strange.  Not saying she's a bad person--I just don't get why they do that.</div>

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  • emarston1emarston1 member
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    And my point is, if you are having problems, you generally don't talk about it.  But how odd would it be if you're doing an interview and the guy asks you about your marriage/husband and you say something along the lines of "no comment" or "I'd rather not discuss that".  It would send up huge red flags that something is wrong so she gushed about him to keep away the rumor mill which would be awful to deal with if you're going through marital problems.

    I seriously could not imagine going through marriage problems in the public eye.  When everything you say (or don't say!) is dissected and misinterpreted (kind of like what you feel happened to you in this thread.)  Now imagine that x5,783,028 and that's why she tried to make it seem like nothing was wrong.

    Or maybe nothing was wrong back in October and they did jump on the divorce train pretty fast.  Either way, we don't know.
  • Well, while it's totally judgey, at least this post makes a  helluva lot more sense than this gem that was floating around TN over the weekend:

    http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/62531274.aspx


    *I felt sorry for my husband before I met him. Take a number.*
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  • monkeysipmonkeysip member
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    Lol... wow.

    Yeah, sorry guys, I probably sound a lot judgier than I really meant to be.  

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) : I didn't say it is my business.  But if it's not our business, why do celebrities go on and on gushing?  <strong>No one ASKED her to talk all about her husband.</strong> Posted by monkeysip[/QUOTE]

    Discussing the "love life" is par for the course when interviewing <strong>any</strong> celebrity. If you're married, they ask about the marriage, if you're dating, they ask when/if you're going to get married, and if you're presumed single, they ask when you're going to settle down and get a boyfriend/girlfriend.

    So, yes, Heidi has been asked to talk about her husband. All the damn time. And like PP said, maybe she gushed because she didn't want to air her dirty laundry. Maybe she knew that brushing off the subject would just throw the rumor mill into over-drive. Maybe things were still good between them back then, and they did just decide to call it quits over night. Maybe, they'd been having trouble for a while, and at the time of the interview in question they had hope for working it out. It's not really our business what went wrong or why. Some people just shouldn't be married to each other, and some couples take a little longer to figure that out than others. Shrug.

    For the most part, I think celebrities take marriage just as seriously as regular people: some people do it for the wrong reasons, some people do it for the right ones, some don't get it right the first time around, and some people mate for life. The difference with Hollywood marriages and the rest of us, is that when a marriage is working and lasting for a long time without any hiccups-nobody gives a sh!t. "Ron & Cheryl Howard stay together for 30+ years" doesn't sell nearly as many magazines as "Kim K. divorces after 72 days". If you're not selling issues, you're not making money, so naturally the train wrecks are all we ever hear about when it comes to celebrities.

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    [QUOTE]Well, while it's totally judgey, at least this post makes a  helluva lot more sense than this gem that was floating around TN over the weekend: <a href="http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/62531274.aspx" rel="nofollow">http://community.thenest.com/cs/ks/forums/thread/62531274.aspx</a>
    Posted by RamonaFlowers[/QUOTE]
    Oh good grief that OP is a whackadoodle.
  • Tbh, I have a tendency to be cynical about celebs and assume the worst of them when I should give the benefit of the doubt.

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Heidi Klum and Seal separate... now I've lost all faith in marriage (rolls eyes) :   Yeah, you do.  It's hilarious.  Bet those 4 kids are just ROFL.
    Posted by 1covejack[/QUOTE]



    Hey now I already said that I'm not trivializing their divorce and I feel awful for their kids. I only said what I said because I think divorce is terrible, not because I think they deserve it or are terrible people.

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