Found the dress of my dreams HOB wont let me take a pic or give me the style # to show mom:(

tratra3ygirls03

I found the perfect dress, fell in love with it. Before I purchase it I wanat to show my mom who doesn't live in the same state as me a picture. House of Brides will not allow me to take a picture or will thesy give me the style number. All I know is the designer is Allure. I have searched all over the internet for this dress with no luck. It is a strapless, see through corset top with a long train and has pockets, but I can't find it anywhere. Is there another way for me to find it?

msuprincess04

Most places won't let you take a picture because they afraid you'll take the design to someone else to make a knock off. They also won't give you the style number because they don't want you buying it elsewhere. I haven't seen an Allure dress with a sheer bodice and pockets, so I can't be much help there.

Edit: apparently this one can have panels removed to make it a sheer bodice
http://www.theknot.com/wedding-dress/allure-bridals/8904

OliveOilsMom

I would go back to the store and ask to try it on again.  Then look for the tag on the dress when you have a second to yourself.  Try to bring a friend who can also scope out the tag or at least be the one to assist you in the dressing room.  Make a note of the style number and then go home to find it.  They have to have the style number on the dress somewhere, how else will they know what to order for you!  Just make sure you keep quiet on what your mission is!  Voices in dressing rooms always carry!

PJSPJS

Yes, I was thinking what the PP said. Go back, try it on, and surreptitiously get the style number -- or any numbers at all that are on the tags if the style number itself is not on there.

marryingafootballcoach

A friend of mine had an issue similar to this.  It was a Wtoo dress, and we searched & searched & searched... We finally found it online.

However, we did take a picture.  I am pretty sure I wasn't supposed to, but... you know

rlavach

I agree with PP suggestions to go back & try it again. This is what I did. After the dress was on & the consultant, me & my mom were looking at it, I asked her to go pull me a veil/bolero/shoes/headpiece (whatever you don't already have in the room) to match. When she left, we frantically took pictures of the dress & the tag. That's faster than writing. Obviously, you need to have this plan set before you go in there so your accomplice has her phone/camera ready. 

tratra3ygirls03

I was thinking of doing the same thing but I was wondering if there was just a website I don't know about.

becky659

I'm going to be the odd one out (although this situation does totally suck) and say that it's not very ethical to go back and try on the dress just to take pictures of the tag or the dress. 
The boutique that I worked for had all brides sign a waiver saying nobody would take pictures of anything because of the issues that a PP stated above.

And if you're sure the tag will tell you anything, our number were for our STORE reference.  We had a code book that translated the store code to the maker's actual description. So that may or may not actually work.
In addition, we never allowed anybody other than the bride in the dressing room to avoid damage to the dresses.

Your best bet might be a good description for your mom and another important person in your life to help you make the final decision if your mom can't make the trip down.

jessss21

I don't really agree that it's unethical for her to try to find the number.  She's not trying to buy a knock off or anything, she just wants to show her mom.  Maybe go try it on again and see if the store will let you skype/face time with her so that she can see it.  I've seen them do it on Say Yes to the Dress.

tratra3ygirls03

I'm not being unethical with the situation. I'm actually planning on buying the dress. All I want is to show my mom the dress before I purchase it.

QueerFemme

Most of the salons I went to didn't have the actual dress style number on them. They coded each dress, and that was the code on the tag.  So, store code xxy went to Allure Dress number whatever.  So, taking a photo of the tag isn't going to be any help.  The only thing you can do is try to sneak a photo in the fitting room.   Have you considered going to another salon near you that carries Allure dresses to see if they have the same dress and will not be so ridiculous about photos?  

rlavach

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[QUOTE]I'm going to be the odd one out (although this situation does totally suck) and say that it's not very ethical to go back and try on the dress just to take pictures of the tag or the dress.  The boutique that I worked for had all brides sign a waiver saying nobody would take pictures of anything because of the issues that a PP stated above. And if you're sure the tag will tell you anything, our number were for our STORE reference.  We had a code book that translated the store code to the maker's actual description. So that may or may not actually work. In addition, we never allowed anybody other than the bride in the dressing room to avoid damage to the dresses. Your best bet might be a good description for your mom and another important person in your life to help you make the final decision if your mom can't make the trip down.
Posted by becky659[/QUOTE]
Like the OP said, she is planning on purchasing the dress there, so she isn't doing anything unethical. I didn't know about the coding. That might be a problem. I've never seen a store not allow others in the dressing room with them. That's quite harsh. I'm glad that didn't happen to me.

marryingafootballcoach

I agree.  She isn't being unethical.  And when I had a friend do it, she did it for the same reason.  She wanted to be able to show her mom what the dress looked like, etc.  She bought the dress in the end... just a month or so later. 

dogsandfrogs

I'm going to say something silly, but have you tried actually looking on the House of Brides website through the Allure section?

KittennDave

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[QUOTE]I'm going to be the odd one out (although this situation does totally suck) and say that it's not very ethical to go back and try on the dress just to take pictures of the tag or the dress.  The boutique that I worked for had all brides sign a waiver saying nobody would take pictures of anything because of the issues that a PP stated above. And if you're sure the tag will tell you anything, our number were for our STORE reference.  We had a code book that translated the store code to the maker's actual description. So that may or may not actually work. In addition, we never allowed anybody other than the bride in the dressing room to avoid damage to the dresses. Your best bet might be a good description for your mom and another important person in your life to help you make the final decision if your mom can't make the trip down.
Posted by becky659[/QUOTE]


This idea is so bizarre to me, when I tried on my dress (and bought it because I loved it!!!), I then emailed the store because I realized I didn't get the designer or the number of the dress so I could show other people later and the owner replied back with the information I asked for, more than happy to in fact! If they don't want to give you that information, that's seems more unethical than anything else...

tratra3ygirls03

Yes I have tried their website and allure's website.

JennLax

Allure 8802, 8771, 8807, 8811, 2410, 2514 all have pockets.  Google each one and see if any fit.

Remember that for dresses with beading on the bodice, it could have a sheer panel under it when you tried it on making it look really different than the picture on the website.  Make sure you look closely at the details - maybe you just missed it because it looked different?

Also - there's a few "labels" under Allure -- Couture, Romance, etc.  Make sure you check all of them!

Maggie0829

Why not just go to the salon and tell them that you are going to purchase the gown but before you purchase it you wanted your mom to see it.  Since you are positive you want it and are sure that your mom's opinion won't affect that choice then giving your word to the salon about your intent isn't a bad thing.

jemmini6

I'd go back to the shop and look for the manufacturer's tag on the dress.  If they have removed it, that is illegal per the FTC Textile Act, and I'd threaten to report them to the Attorney General if they do not give you the style number of the dress.

ETA:  Here's the link to the FTC website specifically about wedding dress labels.  Maybe you should print this out when you go to the shop. (clicky)  Technically, they do not have to include the style number on the label, but if they've removed the label without substituting it with the required info, they are still in violation of this law and face up to $11,000 in penalties. 

aragx6

The salon from which I bought my dress was completely straightforward about the dress and its designer, my mom and two BMs were constantly taking pictures, and they hung out in the dressing room with me. The saleswoman even told me they would do their very best to match any price, even online prices, of any gown.

In fact the other place we went was the exact same way except for the price-matching part.

Some places really suck -- I had no idea.

LDubHawksFan

I've read that it is illegal for bridal shops not to have the style/brand on the dress.  They should be required to give it to you.  I read this in the "Bridal Bargains" book.  It states that the federal  law called the Textile Fiber Products Identifcation Act of 1963 requires all apparal to be properly labeled including manufactuer, fiber content & country of origin.  They can take off the designer tags, but they have to have that information available to you if you ask.  I would bring this up and see if they let you.  Most shops do this, so they may ignore your request.  Some shops will at least list what brands they carry and you could scour those sites....
 
I had this happen with one dress and I politely asked/acted sad when I said that my mom would not be able to see me in my dress then, and the worker let us take a secret pic.

bellaluna290

HOB isn't known for having the best customer service post gown purchase. Have you tried going to another bridal salon to find this dress?

tratra3ygirls03

Thanks that was some helpful info!

MissMegs2010

When I went looking at dresses, I found the one that I would eventually purchase, but the first time we were not allowed to take any pictures. I had to wait until we put it back on the rack and then I walked over and snapped a quick picture. However once it was purchased, then I was allowed to take as many pictures as I wanted. I would do like pp said and just tell them you are planning on buying the dress, but you want your mom to see it before hand.

HeathenSwan

I wouldn't buy from a store that hid the designer and style number. That seems really shady to me. Pictures are one thing (though, honestly, I don't see the point of that either, as a person doing a knock-off can go from website pictures), but removing tags is dishonest and unethical.

tratra3ygirls03

I called the store and spoke with the sales lady that helped me and explained my situation to her and that I just wanted to show my mom a picture. She explained that it was store policy. I also thought there may have been some shady business going on. I've decided I'm going back to the store this weekend and get the dress, I've searched high and low and can't find it any other place. Since I know this is my dress I really have no other choice. I won't recommend this place to anyone or look for bridesmaids dresses there, this will be the only business the get from me.