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Recently engaged and seriously considering breaking it off...

My fiance and I have known each other since high school but just found each other online 15 months ago, started dating and fell in love...he was married before for 14 years has a wonderful daughter that just graduated from HS and has been divorced since 2001. I was married once before in 1987, have 2 grown girls and have been on my own for a long time. I have been engaged before but broke both of them off shortly after getting engaged due to finding out they weren't who I thought they were. So I have obviously been on my own for a long time now, have bought my own home, have been a successful career woman and have had a pretty great life before I met "G". He is a caring family man, successful in his career, has his own home etc. I feel that we really thought we found the best love ever...kind of like better late than never for us. We are both 46. We love the same music, have the same faith, love food, travel, have alot in common. We started talking future pretty early in the relationship. I had pretty much thought maybe I wouldn't ever marry again and he definitely liked being married and wanted to again someday. I started to consider the idea. There has always been a chemistry between us although I do remember saying to him when we first met that I thought he might be too conserative for me...haha

But then we have a very different outlook on past relationships and keeping in touch with those people. I feel once you are exclusive with each other, all those past girlfriends should change and go away and no longer be apart of our relationship unless I meet them and we do stuff with them if they are also in relationships. I had no problems with that but he has continued to talk to several girls over this time and it has gotten out of hand and it has greatly affected my trust in him and our relationship in general. I have never met any of these so called friends of his yet (its been 15 months) Also early in the relationship before we were engaged, I saw on his phone that he was still texting an old girlfriend sexual things between them that I felt was quite inappropriate. So this was the start of some strange things that I was worried about but confronted him on them. He said he would stop and they didn't mean anything to him and I was mad but ended up moving on with the relationship with him. Don't get me wrong,we have had alot of great times together as a couple and with our kids who all get along great so far.  But other issues with these other women keep coming up. They call him, email him, text him at times we are together and I feel that they don't respect our relationship at all or he doesn't tell them how serious we are. He claims he has been friends with them for a long time and says they are on facebook and he gets mad when I tell him it bothers me and he says do you want me to tell you who you can be friends with? He is always on the defensive when it comes to this subject. I feel once you get engaged to someone, you are each forsaking all others. At least the commitment means that to me. The difference between us is that he has met almost all of my friends already and knows that I have not dated any of them nor would I continue to be friends with someone I went out with before or slept with except for a rare few. He on the other hand stays in contact with tons of girls he went out with or has slept with and it gives me the impression he is keeping them hanging around in case something happens to us. He has alot of friends in general and most of the ones that are closest to him I have met but none of these women that he claims he is only friends that touch base with each other every now and then. I have never been in this situation before and maybe I am being insecure but I think its kind of ridiculous.
 Let me know your thoughts on the situation so far...there is lots more to it, I know...but I don't want to bore you to much but this is my life and I seriously need some help with what to do....
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Re: Recently engaged and seriously considering breaking it off...

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  • I thought it was my computer!  I can't read it either.
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  • Yeah. There was a good part of it that I couldn't read. Did you copy and paste?

    From what I did read, it sounds like he is still keeping in touch with several of his ex girlfriends and that concerns you, right? You said that you get the feeling that they don't know how serious you are. What gives you that feeling? Do you know the nature of his texts / phone calls with these women? Have you ever met them? Do he hang out with them with out you? Have you ever met them?
  • [QUOTE]My fiance and I have known each other since high school but just found each other online 15 months ago, started dating and fell in love...he was married before for 14 years has a wonderful daughter that just graduated from HS and has been divorced since 2001.

    I was married once before in 1987, have 2 grown girls and have been on my own for a long time. I have been engaged before but broke both of them off shortly after getting engaged due to finding out they weren't who I thought they were.

    So I have obviously been on my own for a long time now, have bought my own home, have been a successful career woman and have had a pretty great life before I met "G". He is a caring family man, successful in his career, has his own home etc. I feel that we really thought we found the best love ever...kind of like better late than never for us. We are both 46. We love the same music, have the same faith, love food, travel, have alot in common.

    We started talking future pretty early in the relationship. I had pretty much thought maybe I wouldn't ever marry again and he definitely liked being married and wanted to again someday. I started to consider the idea. There has always been a chemistry between us although I do remember saying to him when we first met that I thought he might be too conserative for me...haha

    But then we have a very different outlook on past relationships and keeping in touch with those people. I feel once you are exclusive with each other, all those past girlfriends should change and go away and no longer be apart of our relationship unless I meet them and we do stuff with them if they are also in relationships. I had no problems with that but he has continued to talk to several girls over this time and it has gotten out of hand and it has greatly affected my trust in him and our relationship in general. I have never met any of these so called friends of his yet (its been 15 months)

    Also early in the relationship before we were engaged, I saw on his phone that he was still texting an old girlfriend sexual things between them that I felt was quite inappropriate. So this was the start of some strange things that I was worried about but confronted him on them. He said he would stop and they didn't mean anything to him and I was mad but ended up moving on with the relationship with him.

    Don't get me wrong,we have had alot of great times together as a couple and with our kids who all get along great so far.  But other issues with these other women keep coming up. They call him, email him, text him at times we are together and I feel that they don't respect our relationship at all or he doesn't tell them how serious we are.

    He claims he has been friends with them for a long time and says they are on facebook and he gets mad when I tell him it bothers me and he says do you want me to tell you who you can be friends with? He is always on the defensive when it comes to this subject. I feel once you get engaged to someone, you are each forsaking all others. At least the commitment means that to me.

    The difference between us is that he has met almost all of my friends already and knows that I have not dated any of them nor would I continue to be friends with someone I went out with before or slept with except for a rare few. He on the other hand stays in contact with tons of girls he went out with or has slept with and it gives me the impression he is keeping them hanging around in case something happens to us. He has alot of friends in general and most of the ones that are closest to him I have met but none of these women that he claims he is only friends that touch base with each other every now and then.

    I have never been in this situation before and maybe I am being insecure but I think its kind of ridiculous.  Let me know your thoughts on the situation so far...there is lots more to it, I know...but I don't want to bore you to much but this is my life and I seriously need some help with what to do....
    Posted by mkerr713[/QUOTE]
    CN: OP met her FI online.  He's still having inappropriate conversations with his ex-girlfriends who OP has never met.
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    Sounds like you have a history of finding out who your FI really is shortly after you become engaged.  I think this is another one of those times.
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  • Nope! I have never met any of them but have seen pics on facebook and inappropriate videos on his computer of them....its disgusting!And I told him that...
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    Hopefully that helped with the formatting a little.  And I screwed up, she didn't meet her FI online.

    mkerr, my H's family has a tendency to remain friends with their exes.  I'm not sure how they do it but it's very normal for them and has no effect on their present relationships. 

    But based on the sexual messages before your engagement, I don't think these are at all appropriate.  Whatever decision you make, keep in mind that your daughters will be impacted by that decision - so if you're at all unsure of this relationship, a troublesome marriage could end up being problematic for them as well.

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  • I think if you need to consider breaking it off, you should. 
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  • What type of relationships? He is allowed to be friends with his exs.

    Is he doing anything with them that would bother you if he did it with a woman you already knew? That's how you know if you are being crazy or if he is cheating in this situation. Is he crossing the cheating line, not the being friends with an ex line?

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  • Unfortunately I think you might be right! And it sucks!
  • I know but we see to work through things or I get over them on my own and things go good and then something happens again.
  • Okay. So, I just read it again and I have to say that it doesn't sound like a good situation. I was in a very damaging relationship that was a lot like this one. He never told people that we were serious and definitely kept in touch with his exes.

    When I would ask him about it, he too would get very defensive and tell me that I was trying to control him and that if I didn't trust him, then I was not enough of a girlfriend for him.

    This was all during a time in my life when I had very low self esteem and I allowed him to convince me that it was my problem. That if I didn't trust him, there was something wrong with me. This was all while he was giving me every reason not to trust him (phone calls, emails, texts to several different women 'friends').

    Finally, I wised up and left his worthless ass. And guess what, I was right. He was cheating on me the entire time. He was so defensive about me not trusting him because he was guilty.

    I'm not saying that's what's going on in your situation, but it's definitely a red flag. If I were you, I would not be putting up with the texts / phone calls. And I would want some major changes before feeling okay about getting married. I'm sorry you're dealing with this, but if there are warning signs now, I think it's best that you ask yourself the tough questions now before you get married.
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    This really does suck for you...sorry you are going through this.  I can't believe you found videos of these slores!  That would definitely throw me over the edge of forgiveness.
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    Your situation sounds eerily similar to my BFF and her BF. It took him 2 years before he brought her to a work related event (and there were more than a few in that time). His coworkers and friends mostly didn't know she even existed. 4 years into their relationship, they are still having the same issues. He is still talking to a girl who he knows is interested in him, and has yet to tell her that he's been with my friend the whole time he has known her. He hasn't actually cheated, but by keeping those doors open and the hinges greased, he is keeping his getaway plan, and hasn't made the commitment that she has. I see that as parallel to your situation.

    My point is that in her case, the behavior continues, even when confronted. You need to talk to him about it, and let him know that you are seriously considering breaking off your relationship until you are both on the same page about what level of commitment you expect, and how that commitment is to be expressed. Above all, go with your gut.

    ETA: Just being in contact with exes is not the issue here, IMO. THe issue is that they don't know about you, or if they know, they don't care. To me, that's something he needs to communicate with them, and he needs to nix those relationships if the women can't respect his relationship with you.
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  • I think you should trust your gut. If you can't trust your FI, then you have no business marrying him. Sending texts to ex-girlfriends is bad enough, but sexual ones is inexcusable, especially if he's doing it knowing it upsets you.

    I honestly wouldn't be surprised if he was cheating.
  • Oh I know, it did! I was on his computer and opened it. My heart almost pounded out of my chest. But the very weird thing is that he had just told me this girls bf had a heart attack and died so I (stupidly) felt bad bringing it up....he pretty much laughed it off saying it was from a long time ago...i beg to differ...it was just ironic that I would see it then...
  • Hey! I've been in similar situations a few times over the years.

    In my personal experience, if they're still in frequent contact there's usually something going on, or at least one of them WANTS there to be something going on.

    I've been burned by ex girlfriends before, so I'm biased, but I say be careful.

    Still, I know some people can be just friends after breaking up. If they're such good friends of his, there's no reason you shouldn't meet them. If he doesn't want you to meet them, and he has inappropriate videos, and they send sexy text messages... any one of those is unacceptable. All three... totally uncool.

    On a separate note, I'm no psychologist, but if you've been engaged 3 times, you may need to be more careful about getting to know someone before committing.

    Good luck!
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  • He sounds very manipulative to me. Not a good sign.
  • Wow I do fell like he is making me feel like I am controlling and insecure but I feel that it is my right to know who all these people are and what is the connection with them. I know he was a real player after his divorce but I have never had to deal with so many "other" women in my entire life...
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    It was destiny!  You should post it online from his computer to get them both back.
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  • I completely agree! I do not under any circumstance want to be dealing with this crap once married to him. I have been trying to confront and communicate with him regarding these issues and he always seems to turn it around on me somehow. And I thought I had pretty high self esteem...and would never put up with this kind of BS!
  • I would say that if you had never found any of the sexual texts or pictures, then maybe you should give him the benefit of the doubt, but where there is smoke there is fire and I just don't believe that he's just friends with all of them.
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    Good for you!  Don't let him convince you otherwise.  He sounds pretty manipulative.
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  • I agree and have told him that these girls somehow think if you are giving them the time of day, they have hopes or want something to be going on as you said although he says 'no way" and that they know about me, but I feel they have no respect for our relationship. I take getting married very seriously and both of my other engagements were mutual, so I don't think my issues with G are anywhere the same.
  • See, if you continue to tell him that it bothers you and he doesn't stop the behavior, there is a real problem here.
  • Ditto PPs, I don't think these are innocent friendships with ex-gfs.  Personally, I'd break it off before you're legally bound.

    Lorita, I had a manager who was engaged two or three times.  She said that each time, the man changed after she got engaged and became physically abusive.  I think that was good enough reason for her to break off all of her engagements. Actually, she decided that marriage wasn't for her after having so many bad experiences with engagements.
  • Thanks to all of you! I have alot of serious thinking to do and will need to break it off now!This is not going to be easy at all! He is going to flip out and I am actually really embarassed to tell people that we are no longer engaged...I am afraid to go to work tomorrow and not have my ring on because everone will want to know what happened and I just don't want to tell anyone...I don't wish this on anyone!
  • I think people will respect you for making this difficult decision now as opposed to letting it fester throughout your marriage. You will save yourself a lot of time, heart ache and money by dealing with it before you are actually married.
  • i think you're making a good decision for yourself and your children.

    Ask your family and close friends to spread the word if you'd prefer not to do it yourself.  Word will spread, though.
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