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MOH Trouble

I’ll try to condense this as much as possible and apologize for the length of this post. My MOH is a friend I’ve had since I was 3. We grew up together and always talked about being in each other’s weddings. In the last few years, however, we have become completely different people and all we have in common is the fact that we grew up together. As soon as I got engaged she said how excited she was to be in the wedding. After giving it some thought over the next few months (before I personally invited each member of the BP) I decided to include her. The reasons I was/am hesitant are because she is into drugs, has expressed her jealousy of me to others and directly to me, causes drama when things aren’t all about her, doesn’t have any money (she is making her mom pay for her dress, hotel, etc.) and recently starting dating a guy who is abusive and may also be a criminal. It really upsets me how she has ruined her life by making a series of bad decisions. I’ve tried talking to her, but she always lies and says she’s working on making things better or breaks up with the BF and gets back together with him and says "he's changed." Her parents just ignore the problem instead of addressing it so I can’t talk to them about it.

She is supposed to come down to Philly with the other BMs (they all live in NY) on Oct. 2 to go dress shopping. We went shopping twice in NY but didn’t find anything and there aren’t a lot of dress shops in my hometown. I haven’t talked to her in a few weeks and she hasn’t returned my messages (I think her BF uses her phone most of the time). While I was away on vacation last month she went down to Florida (where she used to live) to take care of some stuff. She was supposed to be back two weeks ago. Her parents don’t talk about her to my parents and she hasn’t returned my messages so I have no clue if she’s even coming back. So I’m thinking that if she bails on the Oct. 2 dress shopping that would be the final straw and I’d have to let her know that she needs to focus on straightening her life out right now and not be in the wedding. Maybe she could have a smaller role? It kills me to think about doing this but I don’t think it is fair to me to have this added stress surrounding my wedding. My FI and most of my friends and family don’t think it is a good idea to have her in it. I just know that this will be the end of our 20+-year friendship and since our families are close friends it will be the end of their friendship as well. The other issue is that I may not even be able to get in touch with her about this since she isn’t answering her phone. Any advice?

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    [QUOTE]I’ll try to condense this as much as possible and apologize for the length of this post. My MOH is a friend I’ve had since I was 3. We grew up together and always talked about being in each other’s weddings. In the last few years, however, we have become completely different people and all we have in common is the fact that we grew up together. As soon as I got engaged she said how excited she was to be in the wedding. After giving it some thought over the next few months (before I personally invited each member of the BP) I decided to include her. The reasons I was/am hesitant are because she is into drugs, has expressed her jealousy of me to others and directly to me, causes drama when things aren’t all about her, doesn’t have any money (she is making her mom pay for her dress, hotel, etc.) and recently starting dating a guy who is abusive and may also be a criminal. It really upsets me how she has ruined her life by making a series of bad decisions. I’ve tried talking to her, but she always lies and says she’s working on making things better or breaks up with the BF and gets back together with him and says "he's changed." Her parents just ignore the problem instead of addressing it so I can’t talk to them about it. She is supposed to come down to Philly with the other BMs (they all live in NY) on Oct. 2 to go dress shopping. We went shopping twice in NY but didn’t find anything and there aren’t a lot of dress shops in my hometown. I haven’t talked to her in a few weeks and she hasn’t returned my messages (I think her BF uses her phone most of the time). While I was away on vacation last month she went down to Florida (where she used to live) to take care of some stuff. She was supposed to be back two weeks ago. Her parents don’t talk about her to my parents and she hasn’t returned my messages so I have no clue if she’s even coming back. So I’m thinking that if she bails on the Oct. 2 dress shopping that would be the final straw and I’d have to let her know that she needs to focus on straightening her life out right now and not be in the wedding. Maybe she could have a smaller role? It kills me to think about doing this but I don’t think it is fair to me to have this added stress surrounding my wedding. My FI and most of my friends and family don’t think it is a good idea to have her in it. I just know that this will be the end of our 20+-year friendship and since our families are close friends it will be the end of their friendship as well. The other issue is that I may not even be able to get in touch with her about this since she isn’t answering her phone. Any advice?
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  • I picked her because if I didn't that would have immediately ended the friendship. I was hoping things would get better and they did for a few months and she was straightening out her life (by moving back home, breaking up with the BF, etc.). Then after a few months she went back to the BF and went back to her old ways.
  • Malphabet is wise.  I'll echo the sentiment that kicking her out of the wedding = kicking her out of your life.  You can't tell her she's no longer good enough to be your MOH and realistically expect her to want to have anything to do with you.  Friendships simply don't survive that kind of insult.
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  • I agree with MBC. People don't change just because they are going to be in a wedding. You knew these things about her in the beginning so you aren't allowed to be shocked and appalled now. Either leave her in the MOH position and try to stay friends or end the friendship and don't include her. Take the wedding out of this! Do you want her as a friend? Yes, keep her as MOH. No, end it. Simple! There is no gray area here. It is black and white.
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    [QUOTE]I picked her because if I didn't that would have immediately ended the friendship. I was hoping things would get better and they did for a few months and she was straightening out her life (by moving back home, breaking up with the BF, etc.). Then after a few months she went back to the BF and went back to her old ways.
    Posted by michelle1997[/QUOTE]
    Why do you think it would've ended the friendship if you didn't ask her to be MOH? I don't understand.
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  • It would have ended the friendship because since we were kids she's thought that  she would be my MOH and I would be hers. The first thing she said to me when I said I was engaged was that she was excited to be in the wedding. If I said "Uhh...actually I haven't decided yet whose going to be in it" and later told her she wasn't going to be in it the friendship would have been over.
  • I don't understand why you asked her to be your MOH in the first place. You're not as good of friends as you used to be, and you're clearly not okay with some of the decisions she's made in her life. But-your main concern should be if she's okay, NOT if she's ordered her dress. Demoting her to another position isn't a good solution either. There's no nice way to do it, plus it'll only fuel her jealousy and give her more reason to gossip.

    You're the only one that can decide if this is worth ending your friendship over, because this situation is all or nothing.

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    [QUOTE]It would have ended the friendship because since we were kids she's thought that  she would be my MOH and I would be hers. The first thing she said to me when I said I was engaged was that she was excited to be in the wedding. If I said "Uhh...actually I haven't decided yet whose going to be in it" and later told her she wasn't going to be in it the friendship would have been over.
    Posted by michelle1997[/QUOTE]
    So if you thought it was worth keeping her as a friend then, why do you not feel it's worth it anymore now?
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  • I picked her because if I didn't that would have immediately ended the friendship.

    Um, why would you even want to keep a friend like that?


    I was hoping things would get better and they did for a few months and she was straightening out her life (by moving back home, breaking up with the BF, etc.). Then after a few months she went back to the BF and went back to her old ways.

    Well, lesson learned ... people aren't going to change just because there's a ring on your finger. Your wedding won't automatically make people better.


    Your choices are:

    (a) tell her you don't want to be friends anymore, kick her out of the wedding party and do not invite her to the wedding at all (and be prepared for possible gossip amongst mutual friends, not all of it favoring you);

    (b) leave her as MOH but leave the ball in her court to order the dress on time. If not, and if she doesn't place a rush order tell her she's welcome to attend as a guest. You do not need a new MOH, you do not need a replacement bridesmaid to even up the sides ... you just go on with whoever you have. If she decides a week before your wedding to cancel, you can cancel her bouquet and her meal, and return or sell her thank you gifts (or give everyone something individual - which is a good idea anyway - and leave hers until the last minute, and if she decides to show up then quickly pick up a gift card for her).
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  • "I'm just gonna ditto malphabet on your original post.

    So, unless you are completely ready to undo all of that and lose her in your life forever (which is a certainty, if not asking her would have done it), AND to look bad to everyone else who doesn't know all of the messy details (which will be most people), then I would just let it go, and expect nothing more of her than to get the dress and show up.

    If her mom is the one paying for it, and she doesn't get back to you before the shopping trip, ask her mother about budget constraints for the dress.  Then, pick a dress with the rest of the girls that is under that amount.  If she gets it and shows up the day of, then great,she's in the wedding.  If she doesn't show up in the dress on the day of the wedding(which sounds more likely), then SHE took HERSELF out of the role of MOH, and you have done nothing wrong."

    I think this is what I will do. Leave the ball in her court. If she doesn't show up on 10/2 I will tell her that I'm upset that she bailed last minute, but not kick her out for it. We've been friends for so long and it really hurts to think of her not being in my life anymore. I guess I just have to accept the fact that we are two different people and hope she turns her life around.
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    [QUOTE]I didn't expect her to change because of my wedding. Who would expect something so ridiculous?
    Posted by michelle1997[/QUOTE]

    You'd be surprised at how many people really believe this.

    Anyway, I'm glad to hear that that's not the case.

    And like you said, leave the ball in her court, and if she drops out on her own then your hands are clean.
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  • Just throwing this out for the sake of adding another point of view...she went to FL two weeks ago and isn't back...has she spoken to her parents? If she's not responding to your calls, are you sure there's nothing seriously wrong? Yes, she's made some unfavorable life decisions, but if you two are as close as you claim to be, have you considered that maybe you should ask her if there is anything you can do for her, as a friend?

    Take the wedding out of the equation...because, honestly, your friend seems to need a friend, and not just a bride bugging her to go dress shopping.
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