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MOH (Sort of) Drama- Need Reassurance (Long)

So my fiance and I share a best friend from years back. Before we got engaged, I talked to her about being MOH but once we got engaged, I never actually asked, mostly because she has caused my fiance and me nothing just drama since we started dating (two years ago) and I am honestly not thrilled about the idea but feel like she should be my MOH from obligation. But, she is going through a lot of emotional stuff right now, so we're just letting it slide, and talking to her about stuff that is going on when it gets really bad.

However, she became a de facto MOH and I started trying to involve her in the wedding planning as one. She hasn't come through. When trying on wedding dresses, she sat and read a magazine and refused to give any opinons unless proded and even then it was a one word answer. She is 20 hours away at school, which is unavoidable. However, she made plans over her Spring Break- The only time she would be in the state to attend a Bridal Shower. (The wedding is only 2 weeks after she arrives home for the summer). This wouldn't be a big deal, people make plans and not everyone can attend the shower, but she didn't even tell me she made the plans! (She actually still hasn't! I heard from my FI's sister!) She hasn't offered to help with any planning, she hasn't asked how any of it is going. I'm just really frustrated. My FI has already had a candid discussion with her about me needing her to be there for me and it hasn't done anything.

It has become increasingly obvious that I'm not going to be able to rely on her for the help I'll need from my MOH (I'm trying to plan this in the midst of Student Teaching, so life is pretty hectic), but she is in a pretty emotionally vunerable state and my FI and I want to be able to have a relationship with her if and when she ever returns to her normal/fun-loving self that we knew before whatever is going on with her took over.

On top of that, my FI's sister, already a BM (someone I consisder an amazing friend) has been very supportive and awesome. She is, in essence, my MOH. She has taken the reins on stuff I don't have time for and has been great.

So, what I have decided to do is to ask my FI's sister to be the MOH (my original 1st choice anyway) and ask my friend to be the honorary MOH, shrouding my frustration in concern for her busyiness and not wanting to stress her out and knowing that she is 20 hours away. I think that it is a good solution but I am now freaking out over the stress. Any thoughts?

(The last option on the poll finishes with "... can't deal with any more negativity." I didn't meant to actually post the poll, it was a joke to myself, but now the board won't let me take it off. Tongue out)

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  • MOH isn't the person who helps you plan.  MOH is the person closest to you.  So what if she's not going to be able to help you plan?  That's your FI's job, not your MOH's.  Especially since she's not flaking, she's just busy with her own life and lives very far away.

    The only wedding dress fitting/shopping I have ever gone to is my own.  It's boring as hell for anyone else.  I would bring a magazine too.  Is it fun for you to watch someone else agonize over necklines and different shades of white?  Why would that be fun for her?

    No one on this board, when all was said and done, has yet regretted having a MOH who didn't help plan.  Many have regretted asking an MOH based on their assumptions that MOH would help them plan, not because of the relationship.

    I suggest talking to your friend about what's going on in her life.  I get the sense that it's been all wedding stuff lately.  Frankly I'd hide the fact that I was coming to town too if I thought I'd be conscripted into planning someone else's wedding during my vacation.  
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    [QUOTE]So my fiance and I share a best friend from years back. Before we got engaged, I talked to her about being MOH but once we got engaged, I never actually asked, mostly because she has caused my fiance and me nothing just drama since we started dating (two years ago) and I am honestly not thrilled about the idea but feel like she should be my MOH from obligation. But, she is going through a lot of emotional stuff right now, so we're just letting it slide, and talking to her about stuff that is going on when it gets really bad. However, she became a de facto MOH and I started trying to involve her in the wedding planning as one. She hasn't come through. When trying on wedding dresses, she sat and read a magazine and refused to give any opinons unless proded and even then it was a one word answer. She is 20 hours away at school, which is unavoidable. However, she made plans over her Spring Break- The only time she would be in the state to attend a Bridal Shower. (The wedding is only 2 weeks after she arrives home for the summer). This wouldn't be a big deal, people make plans and not everyone can attend the shower, but she didn't even tell me she made the plans! (She actually still hasn't! I heard from my FI's sister!) She hasn't offered to help with any planning, she hasn't asked how any of it is going. I'm just really frustrated. My FI has already had a candid discussion with her about me needing her to be there for me and it hasn't done anything. It has become increasingly obvious that I'm not going to be able to rely on her for the help I'll need from my MOH (I'm trying to plan this in the midst of Student Teaching, so life is pretty hectic), but she is in a pretty emotionally vunerable state and my FI and I want to be able to have a relationship with her if and when she ever returns to her normal/fun-loving self that we knew before whatever is going on with her took over. On top of that, my FI's sister, already a BM (someone I consisder an amazing friend) has been very supportive and awesome. She is, in essence, my MOH. She has taken the reins on stuff I don't have time for and has been great. So, what I have decided to do is to ask my FI's sister to be the MOH (my original 1st choice anyway) and ask my friend to be the honorary MOH, shrouding my frustration in concern for her busyiness and not wanting to stress her out and knowing that she is 20 hours away. I think that it is a good solution but I am now freaking out over the stress. Any thoughts? (The last option on the poll finishes with "... can't deal with any more negativity." I didn't meant to actually post the poll, it was a joke to myself, but now the board won't let me take it off. )
    Posted by BBroschinski[/QUOTE]

    Your MOH should not be whoever runs the most errands or helps you the most with planning, nor are they required to do any of these things. Your MOH should be your closest friend (in terms of emotions, not proximity). Your friend does not have to inform you that she is not attending your shower. It's not that big of a deal.
    If you already asked her to be your MOH, then she is your MOH. Don't call her "honorary" because the position is just honorary to begin with. That would make it sound like either she is dead or can't be there for some reason. If you recently asked her, you could ask your FSIL to be a co-MOH, but please do not demote or kick anyone out. It would be very rude and probably end whatever friendship you have left. It would also make you look bad to any mutual friends you have.

    Seriously, all any bridesmaids (including MOH) have to do is buy the dress, show up on the day clean and sober, walk down the aisle, stand quietly for the ceremony, and smile for pictures. Anything else is just extra.
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  • I don't understand.. you told her before you were engaged that you wanted her to be MOH, but then you didn't really want her to be, but you started acting like she was anyway when you never asked her, and you want to know why she isn't interested? HELLO! You never asked her...
    ALso, if she caused drama in your relationship with your FI, then why would you think she would be interested in your wedding to him?
    Your expectations are way out of whack.

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    Also, totally out of line for FI to talk to her about not stepping up to the plate.  Totally out of line.  

    This is not your time of need.  A time of need is the death of a family member, a divorce, a miscarriage, or losing your job.  Things of that calibre.  A wedding is a happy occasion.  What could you possibly need support for?  
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    [QUOTE]She has taken the reins on stuff I don't have time for

    Posted by BBroschinski[/QUOTE]

    Why is she doing YOUR work for you? If you don't have time to plan something for your wedding, then just don't have it. It's YOUR wedding, YOU plan it.

    Your concern isn't that she's busy and you want to relieve some stress from her. Your concern is that you feel she's not "earning" her title because she's not doing enough to help you plan your wedding. Be straight about it ... don't pretend that you're doing her a favor by demoting her and treating her like crap.

    If you feel overwhelmed by wedding planning, then scale back or hire a planner. Or, you know, wait until you finish school to get married.

    *** ETA *** I didn't vote because I didn't feel that any of your poll options are applicable to this situation.
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  • OK unlike these other posts, I feel your pain and confusion!  I am in that same situation only I wish I hadn't asked my friend to be MOH because she hasn't done ANYTHING at all besides ask when we can go bridesmaid shopping!  I have considered asking her to be matron of honor and having either my fiance's sister be maid of honor or have one of my good friends be MOH.  We were such good friends but now I feel that we aren't...
  • Just because someone isn't helping you plan doesn't mean that they aren't good friends by any means.  astanos you have over a year until your wedding--what help from her could you possibly need yet?

    My MOH did jack for our wedding.  I have no regrets.  I would ask her again.  If you'd let a long friendship go over the MOH's lack of participation in wedding planning, that says a lot about her but it says much more about you.
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  • Cliff's notes, anyone?

    Based on what I managed to read, though, your MOH's duties include and are limited to showing up clean and sober, wearing the requested dress that is within her budget and which she has not objected to due to fit and shoes of her choice within any specified guidelines, standing next to you during the ceremony and probably holding your bouquet and signing the marriage license.

    She doesn't have to help you plan the wedding or plan a shower.  It's okay if she wants to make plans for her spring break.  You're not obligated to have a shower, but if you do have one, any wedding guest can volunteer to plan it.  Ask your FI to help with the wedding planning.

    Not everyone likes weddings and it sounds like your MOH was genuinely not interested in watching someone try on dresses.  I was barely willing to go dress shopping for myself and decided after 3 BM dress trips (their desire) that I didn't want to go on any more BM dress shopping trips although they could if they wanted.

    It's not okay to demote a bridesmaid unless the friendship is not salvageable.  That is often a friendship ending move  and is generally causes you to be viewed negatively by those around you, even if they do not voice it to you.
  • CN: OP sort of asked a friend to be MOH but not really.  sort-of-MOH is showing no interest in wedding planning.  FI talk to sort-of-MOH to tell her she needs to step up her game.  sort-of-MOH seems to be going through something in her own life that is "emotional."  She also lives 20 hours away.  OP wants to know if it's okay to officially make someone who lives closer and is more interested in helping MOH instead.  But would it be okay to make the first girl "honorary" MOH instead?
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  • OP, I think you need to relax your expectations.

    Your MOH isn't your planner.  She's your best friend.

    I think you need to talk to her about the friendship.  I have to say that if my friend's FI had a frank discussion with me about what I needed to do in his wedding to help plan it, I'd have several choice words for him about HE should be planning HIS wedding.

    Talk to your MOH about the friendship.  My guess is that she may be feeling a bit too used right now.
  • Do you even still want to be friends with this girl?  It sounds like you don't even like her that much.  (Also, I don't like any of the poll options.)

    My MOH lives far away from me too, so I don't expect anything from her except to show up and stand by my side, as a good friend should do.  If you need help planning your wedding you should hire a wedding planner.
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  • Okay I did not read the entire thinsg because all I hears ia 'waaa" so basically it sounds like she does not care about your wedding. She does not care about being or not being an MOH.

    Just because you asked her so many years ago does not mean it still stands. You were not even engaged yet at the time.

    Just stop trying to involve her.

    No one will be as happy as you are for your wedding.
  • Huh, so I missed all of the FI/MOH issues.

    I'm not sure why you appointed someone who wasn't big on your relationship as MOH, even unofficially.  If it's been said that she is MOH, you can't take that back.  If it has never been said or implied that she is your MOH, then she's not the MOH.

    Your FI needs to step up his game and plan his wedding instead of telling your MOH to step up hers.
  • I agree with some of the PP's. Your MOH doesn't have to do anything to help you plan your wedding. If you are fortunate enough to have a friend or family member who is all about helping you then that's great. But don't expect that just because you're getting married every person in your social circle is going to drop everything to help you plan your wedding, MOH or not. A MOH is not a wedding planner, they are a close and trustworthy friend that really only needs to be there the day of the wedding.

    My sister is my MOH and she LIKES weddings and she LIKES helping, so I bounce ideas off of her and ask her opinion when I need it but I have not once asked her to schedule or go to any appointments or do anything other than buy a dress. She likes being involved, and I really appreciate it. She is also (along with a couple of my aunts who are not bridesmaids) planning to throw a shower, it is very kind of them and I totally appreciate it. All my other BM's live out of town and I've hardly asked anything of them. I asked them because they're great friends.

    Basically . . you need to relax your expectations. A wedding is ONE DAY . . if there's things that you're freaking out over or don't have time for, they probably aren't important. You and your FI should make a list of the things that are non-negotiable, must-have aspects of your wedding and focus on those things only. The only peson you should really expect help from is your FI, and anyone else that helps out a lot . . be sure to thank them with a gift to show your gratitude. Please don't demand anything (other than attendance on the wedding day) from your BM's though.
  • You never even asked her to be MOH; she is in college and lives 20 hours away ; it sounds like she's got some emotional issues she's working out right now. She has the right to spend her Spring Break however she pleases w/o immediately reporting her plans to you. I'm sure she would have let you know at some point that she wasn't going to be able to attend the shower.

    With all these things taken into consideration, perhaps you should be a little more sensitive to the fact that she's got quite a bit going on in her own life - your wedding does not mean other people's lives cease to exist. You ask them to be in your WP because you want to honor friends who mean alot to you - not out of obligation or in the hopes they'll plan loads of stuff for you.

    You and your FI plan your own wedding and if it becomes too much to handle, then you either need to scale back or hire a professional wedding planner. But don't demand things of your friends and don't expect it. Most friends want to help because they love you but if they cannot due to financial reasons / time constraints / emotional issues (depression?) in their own life they need to deal with then it's up to you to be a gracious bride & friend - emphasis here on friend - and be understanding about it.   Your FI was out of line telling her she needs to step it up and be there for you. He should apologize to her for that.

    So you are planning to tell the girl who was never officially asked to be MOH if she will now be "an honorary Maid Of Honor?" Please don't do that - not only is that a silly way to phrase it (and as someone else mentioned, it makes it sound as if she were dead) it is quite redundent on what is already an honor position.


    Relax your expectations of others and appreciate what they DO do for you. Sounds like you have one friend who could use some support right now (that is, if you still want to be her friend) and another who has a totally different attitude and is willing to do more to help you. Be understanding to the first and very grateful to to the second.

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  • I just skimmed, but:

    MOH already is an honorary title, whose only duties are purely ceremonial.  "Honorary maid of honor" is redundant.  The only way someone can be an "honorary" WP member is if they are absent for some reason (like military deployment), and even then a lot of people will advise that they should be listed as just a regular attendant.

    Honestly, having a "helpful" MOH isn't all it's cracked up to be, trust me.  The more people you try to get involved, the more opinions and viewpoints you have to juggle.  If you plan the wedding with just your FI, you will have an event that's reflective of both of you.  If you let other people take it over, you'll have something you may not be entirely happy with.

    Is she still your closest friend?  Then she's your MOH.
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  • Apparently I gave a horrible impression of what was going on. I'm not asking my friend to do everything, or anything really, just to take an interest. I know that it isn't her job to plan the wedding, but it IS her job to at least keep me informed as to whether she will be able to be in the state for my bridal shower (not a Bridal show) so I can ask someone else to plan it (because the shower is one of the small things not planned by me).

    I asked her because I was trying to repair the relationship and tell her that I don't know what the hell is going on with her, but I'm still interested. However, she obviously isn't. (And not even in a "No one else is going to be interested in your own wedding as much as you" way. In a "I'm only interested in spending time with your FI, not you" way.) It is a screwed up situation and it has been for a while. I was hoping this would help make things better, but now it is just causing me stress and she is remaining as elusive as she has been for the last two years. We were hoping that our best friend (she is best friend to both my FI and I, which is why HE talked to her. For the record, I have talked to her too) would eventually come back to us.

    Also for the record, the poll was a joke for myself and I didn't mean to post it.
  • No, she has no obligation to keep you abreast of her whereabouts.  And it's not up to you to ask someone else to plan it.  That's bad form.  FWIW my shower came together after my aunts realized that my sister (infamously bad MOH on this board) wasn't planning a shower and offered to throw one.  Chill.
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    [QUOTE]I know that it isn't her job to plan the wedding, but it IS her job to at least keep me informed as to whether she will be able to be in the state for my bridal shower (not a Bridal show) so I can ask someone else to plan it (because the shower is one of the small things not planned by me). Posted by BBroschinski[/QUOTE]


    No, it's not her job to tell you whether or not she can plan you a shower. And it is CERTAINLY not your job or your right to ask someone else to plan you a shower if this chick does not.

    "The bride should not plan the shower" rule does not just apply to you choosing the location, sending out invites, making favors, picking the menu, etc. This applies to EVERYTHING involving the shower, including the decision about who plans it. Your involvement should end at giving the hostess a guest list and some possible dates, if she asks for them. It is the HEIGHT of rudeness to ask someone to plan a party for you, especially where the purpose of this party is for people to bring you gifts.

    If MOH wants to gift you with a shower, you will get one. if MOH does not plan one and someone else decides that they would like to throw one, you will get one. If MOH does not plan one and nobody else decides to throw you one, then you will not get one. It sucks, but them's the breaks. Brides are not owed one, brides have done nothing to earn one, brides do not automatically deserve one. It would be NICE if you got one, but it is not your RIGHT to get one. Hence why it is <em>incredibly </em>rude for you to ask or assign a person to throw you one if you feel that MOH will not be planning one. If you do not get one, then the only reasonable thing you can do is be an adult and accept it. You can feel disappointed inside all you like, but that's as far as you can take it without being rude.  
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    [QUOTE]I asked her because I was trying to repair the relationship and tell her that I don't know what the hell is going on with her, but I'm still interested. Posted by BBroschinski[/QUOTE]

    Is that supposed to leave a better impression? I'm confused how asking someone to be a MOH would fix a relationship. It really just seems like you brought all of this (unecessary) strife upon yourself.

    My MOH lives in LA and I'm in NYC (I have a lot of time before my wedding but if we can be best friends for 20 years, I think we're safe). The only thing I have ever asked her to do is pick out a dress and email me pictures by October so I can show it to whomever else I pick to be in my WP. FYI, usually, if you don't demand too much from your friends, they're more willing to offer their time and energy.
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    [QUOTE]Apparently I gave a horrible impression of what was going on. I'm not asking my friend to do everything, or anything really, just to take an interest. I know that it isn't her job to plan the wedding, but it IS her job to at least keep me informed as to whether she will be able to be in the state for my bridal shower (not a Bridal show) so I can ask someone else to plan it (because the shower is one of the small things not planned by me). Posted by BBroschinski[/QUOTE]

    Ummmm, no.  She is not required to inform you AT ALL about her plans, even if those plans conflict with your shower.  If she makes alternate plans, she doesn't attend.

    And no, you don't ask someone else to plan it. You don't "ask" for gifts and that is what a shower is, a gift.  You aren't entitled to one and if she doesn't throw one, and no one else offers, you don't have one.
  • She has a busy life and found the time to come dress shopping with you and you have the audacity to complain that her opinions weren't good enough?  FFS!

    You seem to be confused about what MOH means.  If you want to screw up this relationship as much as possible, go ahead and make someone else your MOH.  But don't blame anyone else when this friend isn't your friend after the wedding.
  • All they have to do is buy the dress and show up at the wedding??? I dont understand some of these postings,but close friends do more than just buy a dress and show up! good grief!!!
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    [QUOTE]All they have to do is buy the dress and show up at the wedding??? I dont understand some of these postings,but close friends do more than just buy a dress and show up! good grief!!!
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    <div>Lurk for a bit.  It's not that it's all they WILL do, that's just all they are OBLIGATED to do (i.e. doing any less and you can rightfully kick them out).  While most good friends want to go above and beyond, some will not.  You can be disappointed and reevaluate the friendship.  But you cannot go all wedding police on them and tell them that they aren't living up to their "responsibilities."  </div><div>
    </div><div>Read Emily Post--showers, bach parties, etc. are <strong>gifts</strong>, not <strong>obligations</strong>.  And she specifically says you may not ask anyone to throw one or get after people for not throwing one.</div>
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  • Alot of this would be solved if you both sat down and talked about your expectations.  My MOH asked how involved I wanted her to be, I asked each of my ladies standing up with me how involved they wanted to be. 
    There needs to be clarification on what is expected and from whom. 
    My MOH just found out her mom has cancer, BM 1 is in med school, BM2 is expecting her 1st child and will be delivering a month b4 the wedding, BM3 is expecting her 4th child and will be about 6 months along.
    I'm getting married, finishing university and working part time. EVERYONE IS BUSY.  It's about respecting eachother and being honest with one another and remembering why you wanted them to stand up with you in the first place - because they have a special place in your life. 
    That's my peice.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_moh-sort-of-drama-need-reassurance-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:37Discussion:d22dbd94-1ad9-4018-8afb-0b72c96c2b8bPost:2aa4efba-1589-415c-a0ab-f30913c82951">Re: MOH (Sort of) Drama- Need Reassurance (Long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]All they have to do is buy the dress and show up at the wedding??? I dont understand some of these postings,but close friends do more than just buy a dress and show up! good grief!!!
    Posted by ladydiy2004[/QUOTE]

    Nope, get a dress and show up is all they are required to do. 

    Anything else they choose to do is optional and a favor or a gift to you.  So, you can't demand it, and you can't call them a bad BM for not doing it.  What you should do is be appreciative of everything the do for you, because they do it out of the goodness of their hearts, not because you think they have to. 
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_wedding-party_moh-sort-of-drama-need-reassurance-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:37Discussion:d22dbd94-1ad9-4018-8afb-0b72c96c2b8bPost:2aa4efba-1589-415c-a0ab-f30913c82951">Re: MOH (Sort of) Drama- Need Reassurance (Long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]All they have to do is buy the dress and show up at the wedding??? I dont understand some of these postings,but close friends do more than just buy a dress and show up! good grief!!!
    Posted by ladydiy2004[/QUOTE]

    Well, it seems that the bride doesn't even really<em> like</em> this girl, so the "Good friends should do more!" excuse doesn't hold water here.
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  • I don't think she owed you an explanation about not attending the shower either.  She owed the shower HOSTESS an answer about if she would attend or not attend but she didn't owe that answer to you.

    It definitely sounds like there are some huge issues going on here but based on how things have gone, I'm guessing that she feels a bit stepped on.

    Wouldn't you if your friend's FI told you to "step it up"?
  • Sorry, I misread it as shower. But my argument stands. The only thing she is required to do with regard to the shower is RSVP if the person who plans it invites her. She doesn't have to say yes, she doesn't have to plan it herself, and as PPs have said YOU certainly shouldn't be asking people to throw you parties! If you get one great, if not, life will go on (this coming from someone who lives on a different continent from her friends and family and did not have a shower).

    You also said in your follow up "I asked her because I was trying to repair the relationship." So you have asked her to be MOH? Because in the first post I understood that you hadn't. Maybe she's just as confused as we are.
  • Hire a wedding planner. I hired a DOC, so instead of making my friends and family work on my wedding day, they can just have fun.

    I would never ask my MOH or BMs to do anything other than wear the dress (which they helped to pick) and show up for the wedding day. I am lucky in that they have been very supportive and helpful throughout my planning so far, but that is why I plan to give them a nice "thank you" gift at the rehearsal.

    As PP said, any assistance from BM/MOH or family in planning is a generous gift of their time, NOT an obligation.

    Although I will say, as MOH planning a shower I did reach out to the other BMs to check for a good date, so that everyone could be there. But they are not required to be there.
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