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I'm seriously concerned about workplace violence

(Candi's burglary post reminded me.)

BSC cw was officially let go last night.  Even before then, once she was placed "on leave" there was growing speculation here that it was only a formality, and she was a dead (wo)man walking.

This woman is nuts, to the point where I've given serious thought to what to do if she shows up with a gun.  I'm not normally paranoid, and in my entire working life, she's the only disgruntled former employee that I've honestly been concerned about coming back.  They took her badge, but I'm sure she could talk her way past the smokers at the employee entrance and get someone to let her in. 

I brought this up with my boss on Tuesday, and he said I raised a good point, but didn't seem motivated to actually do anything about it.  As you will recall, they fired our HR manager a couple of months ago, so all we have in HR right now is one woman who basically processes insurance paperwork and timesheets.  

Here's hoping nothing bad happens.  I'm not trying to be a drama llama, but this woman just isn't right, and it's unsettling.  Any thoughts/suggestions?

Re: I'm seriously concerned about workplace violence

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    GBCKGBCK member
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    pepper spray and 911 on speeddial?


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    Wow.  Talk about a bad situation, from your boss' "Brush-off" attitude to no head of HR?  :(
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    What GBCK said.
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    get a plan together.  check out exits and see how far you are from them.  if you're not near an exit, is there a conference room you can get to?  what floor are you on?  is it jumpable?
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    Do you have the contact info for the person who flew halfway around the world to fire your HR person?  Do you have documentation or at least remember any BSC things she said that could have been, IDK, threatening?

    Could you encourage your boss to at least send an e-mail out to other management to watch out for her?  Or maybe he could e-mail an HR person higher up and ask what can be done? 


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    make Friday "bulletproof vest day."  kind of like casual friday.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_im-seriously-concerned-workplace-violence?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:08614a15-f98c-4d81-a0fb-fe3e79a19a89Post:e4cdf84d-5b09-4db8-9b51-1f590c856684">Re: I'm seriously concerned about workplace violence</a>:
    [QUOTE]get a plan together.  check out exits and see how far you are from them.  if you're not near an exit, is there a conference room you can get to?  what floor are you on?  is it jumpable?
    Posted by hmonkey[/QUOTE]

    I'm only on the second floor, so it would be jumpable, but I'm not sure if I could break my window.  It's one of those energy efficient double-paned deals, and the glass looks pretty thick.

    Right now, Plan A is to grab my phone, run down the back stairwell, and call 911 as I run to our office park neighbors.  Plan B is to hole up in the closet where I pump, barricade the door, and call 911. 

    I am honestly sad that I've had to consider all this.  I don't think it's likely that she'll come back, but I think she's likelier than most, if that makes sense.
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    the window might be breakable if you throw a chair through it.

    does the pumping closet have enough things in it you can use to barricade the door?

    sadly, i kind of know what you are going through.  i had a emergency escape plan at an old job:  run to conference room, lock door, throw chair through window, out the window and to the parking lot.  conference room also had a back door, so escape was possible through there, too.
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    I would also talk to people you trust about your concerns. If she's as unstable as she sounds, you can't be the only person with these thoughts. There's safety in numbers. And seriously - get a can of pepper spray. Not mace. Mace will simply irritate someone, whereas pepper spray will literally bring them to their knees and incapacitate them.
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    I unfortunatly had this situation when I still worked in an office. CW was like all these bad things you guys talk about, he stunk and was BSC. Bragged that he never filed taxes. ( we called and turned him in, ha)

    His name was Robert Leland, but he told everybody ( we worked on the phones all day) that his name was Robert E Lee.  I usually did the firing, but made owner/boss come in and do it since he hired him and I was worried about his reaction. He threw stuff everywhere and yelled that he knew where we lived.

    It was bad for awhile, and he actually did come twice and talk really crazy. Make sure you watch your surroundings all the time. We all had a plan for if we saw him but luckly he never actually hurt one of us.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_im-seriously-concerned-workplace-violence?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:08614a15-f98c-4d81-a0fb-fe3e79a19a89Post:978fef27-51d9-4ea7-ae3f-e734f3ec4a1f">Re: I'm seriously concerned about workplace violence</a>:
    [QUOTE]the window might be breakable if you throw a chair through it. does the pumping closet have enough things in it you can use to barricade the door? sadly, i kind of know what you are going through.  i had a emergency escape plan at an old job:  run to conference room, lock door, throw chair through window, out the window and to the parking lot.  conference room also had a back door, so escape was possible through there, too.
    Posted by hmonkey[/QUOTE]

    A cw and I were trying to decide what would best break that window.  He thought maybe my laptop, since it has angular corners and can be thrown easily.  Like you, Hmo, I was thinking chair. 

    What would save me in the pumping closet would be the cheap laminate bookcase that's next to the door.  That could be pushed in front of the door pretty quickly.  But if it came to it, the back stairwell would be my first choice.  Our closest neighbor is Coca-Cola, and they would help us out. 

    I honestly doubt that the Austrians would do anything.  I'm not trying to be fatalistic, but so far they've never done anything about any other (unrelated) issues raised.  The president comes from Austria once a quarter to check in, and I think if he hadn't already been here, he would have fired HR mgr by phone or email.

    Like the pepper spray idea.  Love the bulletproof vest Friday idea.  <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />
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    DId you "law abiding citizen"?  Keep a t-bone steak in your draw.  If she comes in rip off the meat to distract her and then stab her in the neck with the bone.
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    Have a plan.  Can they make a flyer to put at the smoking area and send an e-mail as well?  It doesn't have to name names, but at least put people on alert- code orange if you will. 

    When I was in this situation we notified the guards to keep an extra eye out and we let workers in outlying areas know to watch for odd things.  I had escape routes and I had the sheriff escort me to my car and home more than once.

    There was just a shooting at OSU for a bad review.  These things need to have plans.

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    Does anyone in your office have a concealed-carry permit? Is such a thing available in your state? Because a gun is my recommendation. 
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