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MinMMinM
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Exposure to aged second hand smoke can be especially harmful, as the toxicity of the associated particulate matter increases over time.

Also, second hand smoke is more toxic than mainstream smoke (what the smoker inhales), so even brief exposures can have effects on your health - even a little dose can have a disproportionate effect.

Even if The Wooz isn't around anyone who is smoking at the time, if someone has smoked in the house or in the clothes they are wearing, she can be exposed to the particulate matter.

So, if it were me and my baby, I'd be staying in a hotel. I would tell H he can do what he wants, but me and by baby would not be staying there.
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  • hmonkeyhmonkey member
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    edited December 2011
    YES.  thank you, minm.  i thought i read that somewhere but then i thought i hallucinated it.
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  • mrsconn23mrsconn23 member
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    edited December 2011
    I've heard/read this as well. 
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  • MinMMinM
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    edited December 2011
    FYI - that particulate matter is now called, by some people, as third hand smoke. It can get into everything porous, INCLUDING YOUR MAKEUP!
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  • tawillerstawillers member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_heff-1?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:808da994-b926-4174-b247-c2a7d8537d2cPost:c30e72b7-f6b1-4b23-9bd9-20199987082b">Re: ::heff::</a>:
    [QUOTE]FYI - that particulate matter is now called, by some people, as third hand smoke. It can get into everything porous, INCLUDING YOUR MAKEUP!
    Posted by MinM[/QUOTE]

    I read an article a few months ago regarding third hand smoke.
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  • HeffalumpHeffalump member
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    edited December 2011
    Thank you, Min.  I am actually really concerned about the particulates, between MIL's chain smoking and the mold.  Even if she smokes outside while we're there, it's not like the air in the house will suddenly be healthy.  Just a little less unhealthy.

    I've also read that it's worse for kids because their respiratory rate is higher, so they're actually breathing more of the bad air than adults are.  I have to tell Mr. Heff that I need to do this for the Woozle's own good (to say nothing of my own ability to breathe), and he can decide what he wants to do for himself.  He's not going to like it, but I keep trying to think of a better option and there just isn't one.

    Anyway, thanks everyone for your opinions.  It's good to know that, objectively, I'm being reasonable, even when Mr. Heff disagrees.

    I know she's his mother, but she obviously doesn't give a damn about anyone but herself, given that she smokes in front of children and sFIL (who, again, has THROAT CANCER) and keeps her house in deplorable condition.  So why am I supposed to be so worried about her feelings that I'd risk my own kid's health?
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  • mrsconn23mrsconn23 member
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    edited December 2011
    One of my co-workers smokes and has a 1.5 year old.  She swears she doesn't smoke in the house, but her kid is always sick and even when he's not sick, he's a nasty, snotty, mess.  I can only imagine that it has a LOT to do with her smoking, whether or not she does it in the house.
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  • HeffalumpHeffalump member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_heff-1?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:808da994-b926-4174-b247-c2a7d8537d2cPost:5d54cd76-695d-4b2c-bcba-922518e5f04b">Re: ::heff::</a>:
    [QUOTE]One of my co-workers smokes and has a 1.5 year old.  She swears she doesn't smoke in the house, but her kid is always sick and even when he's not sick, he's a nasty, snotty, mess.  I can only imagine that it has a LOT to do with her smoking, whether or not she does it in the house.
    Posted by mrs.conn23[/QUOTE]
    Interestingly, I just read this (from the surgeon general):

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    <font size="2"><p>"Secondhand smoke exposure causes acute lower respiratory infections such as bronchitis and pneumonia in infants and young children.  Secondhand smoke exposure causes respiratory symptoms, including cough, phlegm, wheeze, and breathlessness, among school-aged children." </p></font>
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  • NOLABridesmaidNOLABridesmaid member
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    edited December 2011
    Heffa, I just read your post, and book your hotel room.

    Flea Bites????
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  • HeffalumpHeffalump member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_heff-1?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:47Discussion:808da994-b926-4174-b247-c2a7d8537d2cPost:a25442ff-34e2-4891-b9b5-d05f45f9b78e">Re: ::heff::</a>:
    [QUOTE]Heffa, I just read your post, and book your hotel room. Flea Bites????
    Posted by NOLABridesmaid[/QUOTE]
    DH says that the fleas aren't a problem anymore since they no longer have pets.  (They have all died of cancer, unfortunately and maybe not coincidentally.)  Whether or not the fleas are still present, I think it points to the larger issue of pervasive dirtiness.
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