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Poor Bacon.

She won't have any adults to play with when she's 25 and out of my damn house.

Twenty-somethings are moving home in record numbers. It’s not just the recession. The “boomerang kid” trend started before the economy collapsed, and social scientists expect it to continue. These young adults aren’t just broke; they’re not ready to leave the nest. Does it just take longer to grow up today than it did a few generations back?Some experts think so. The New York Times has a feature coming out this Sunday on “emerging adulthood,” a new psychological term for the increasingly common developmental stage between finishing high school and settling into Real Life.If we can’t expect our kids to be fully adult until they’re 30, does that mean those of us raising little ones now are on the hook for another 10 years of parenting? What will our job description look like, if childhood is extended another decade?What does it mean to be an adult? Per the NYT:Sociologists traditionally define the “transition to adulthood” as marked by five milestones: completing school, leaving home, becoming financially independent, marrying and having a child.

In the 70s, over three quarters of women had done all five of these things by their 30th birthday. Now, the number is less than half. For men, the drop is even more drastic: 65% of men in the 70s hit these milestones before turning 30. Now only a third do so.

Instead, young people are traveling, getting PhDs, competing for unpaid internships and having adventures. They move around a lot, avoiding commitments to careers or relationships. They’re taking time to find themselves before settling down.

How will we parent these people? By the time our kids are in their 20s, will living at home be the norm? Will I need to sign permission slips for my daughters to go on college field trips? Will social institutions have adapted to the special needs of young people who are really not ready to take on the work of having a home, family and career of their own at 20?

These questions matter because, to quote the Grey Lady again:

failing to protect and support vulnerable young people can lead them down the wrong path at a critical moment, the one that can determine all subsequent paths. But overprotecting and oversupporting them can sometimes make matters worse, turning the “changing timetable of adulthood” into a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The question of whether and how to extend our kids’ formative years past the usual threshold of adolesence is a complex one. There are questions about their physical and mental maturity to grapple with, as well as ethical and sociological concerns.

I’d expect that by the time today’s kindergartners are old enough to vote, there will be more open discussion of this issue, but no clear consensus. Will my 5-year-old be an “emerging adult” in 20 years, or simply a grown-up? Only time will tell.

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Re: Poor Bacon.

  • PMeg819PMeg819 member
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    edited December 2011
    This is my sister. She graduated in May and has no prospects of getting a job. She's been on interviews, but has gotten passed on everytime. And instead of getting something to just pay the bills, she just lives with my parents and waits for the moment when she gets a job.
  • TheDuckisTheDuckis member
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    edited December 2011
    My sister graduated in May of 09 and doesn't have a real job. She's a manager at the garden center 5 minutes from my parents' house, where she lives.

    My mom is totally an enabler though. She's spent the last 31 years parenting and doesn't know how to do anything else. She goes over and cleans my little brother's house, does my older brother's grocery shopping, the list goes on.
  • *Candi**Candi* member
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    edited December 2011
    WTF. I do know someone that is my age (25) and still lives at home. I think she is done with her degree, has $ to live on her own. I have no clue what that is about.

    If you lived closer Bacon and Autumn could hang out when they are both on their own-well before the age of 25.

    Also, this is how you get shows like "I'm pregnant and...55" I know I did this stuff out of order and too early, but damn.

    What does it mean to be an adult? Per the NYT:

    Sociologists traditionally define the “transition to adulthood” as marked by five milestones: completing school, leaving home, becoming financially independent, marrying and having a child.

    In the 70s, over three quarters of women had done all five of these things by their 30th birthday. Now, the number is less than half. For men, the drop is even more drastic: 65% of men in the 70s hit these milestones before turning 30. Now only a third do so.

  • baconsmombaconsmom member
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    edited December 2011
    I actually was a boomerang kid. I dropped out of college just after I turned 21. My parents let me move back home, but I had a job, and a deadline. I had to be out of their house by the end of the year. Period. 

    And I was. I supported myself and moved in with a roommate and had my own life. I think I've done pretty well for myself, even if I never managed to pick a career. (If Bacon hadn't come along, I'm sure I'd have settled into something.) But I would never have done it if my parents hadn't made me. 

    There comes a point where you just have to trust that you've done enough for your kid, and they'll be OK. Isn't there? 
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  • TheDuckisTheDuckis member
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    edited December 2011
    To be fair, I won't have hit all these milestones by 30. August 15 was my last chance to get KU in order to have a child by 30. It makes me irrationally sad, even though I don't technically want to be pregnant quite yet.
  • baconsmombaconsmom member
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    edited December 2011
    I'm not so into marriage and family being adulthood milestones. But I don't think there's any excuse for not having a job and an ability to support yourself - even if you're a broke-ass student - by the time you leave college. 
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  • loveshine1loveshine1 member
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    edited December 2011
    I have some friends like this. I don't understand it.

    A good friend of mine still lives at home. Her parents spend most of their time in an apartment close to NYC, so she's at the house by herself a lot of the time. She works as a massage therapist, but still lives like she's in HS. Instead of going to school everyday, she goes to work. She has zero desire to move out on her own.


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  • *Barbie**Barbie* member
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    edited December 2011
    BIL will be 34 next month and still lives at home. He has a full time job and could afford an apartment or a low level mortgage, but he spends his money on stupid crap (like yearly season tickets to at least 2/4 pro sports in Philly) just because he can.  MIL is an enabler. FIL wanted him out 10 years ago. 

    Sister is almost 25, and will have been out of college for 2 years in Dec. She has been working full time at a good engineering job since graduation. I told her before she graduated that I think she should live at home for at most 2 years, save up a down payment/nest egg, and buy a house. (prices are way cheaper in Pittsburgh) I asked her a few months ago if she was following my advice, and she told me that she was planning to start looking at houses soon. I know my mom would like her to leave, but doesn't want to force her out. We'll see how that goes. 

    DK and I have already decided that the kid gets 1-2 years after college to GTFO. We'll give them some time to get a job/save some cash, but then they need to go. 
  • DG1DG1 member
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    edited December 2011
    eh. I lived at home for almost a year after a layoff.  I knew I wanted to leave Boston, and it seemed like a good break point.  I could have gotten a job, but it would have paid less than unemployment, and it would have givne me a lot less time to look for a position in my real career.

    DH lived at home for almost 2 years after college. He was working as a lab technician in his field, getting as much overtime and holidays as he could so he could pay off his student loans (100% paid off within 2 years). 

    Just because your kid lives at home to save money doesn't mean you're still parenting them. 

    I know there are deadbeat kids who mooch and have no real intention of ever supporting themselves, but there are a lot of shades of gray if we're just talking about young adult children who live at home.

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  • loveshine1loveshine1 member
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    edited December 2011
    Both DH and his brother lived at home for about a year after college to save for downpayments. I don't think there's anything wrong with that. There was a plan in place -- this wasn't a permanent solution.
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