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Your opinion?

From a post on attire: First of all, she's a size 0 and the shop put her in a size 2. She didnt' ask if it came any smaller. She then paid over 500 for alterations. She didn't ask for an estimate first and let the lady pin her dress and then was told how much it would be. She feels that they should have to pay for some of her alterations.

I'm the only one that posted that thinks she's totally responsible. She should have asked all these questions and asked for an estimate before the lady touched her dress. I think she's SOL.

WDYT?

http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_attire-accessories_alterations-were-expensive

 
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Re: Your opinion?

  • I didn't read the post you're referring to, but based on what you said I think she's totally responsible. Unless she was unconscious during the picking, buying, fitting, and altering of her dress.



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  • $500+ for alterations? Holy hell.
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  • I agree with you, LVB. It's all about personal responsibility. These days, people are quick to place blame on others for their own wrong-doings. She should have asked those questions beforehand. Before ordering my dress, I double-checked the measurements they had written down and was given a packet about specific alteration costs. Had I not been given that info, I would have asked.
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    I can't find the post, but based on what you say, yes she is responsible.  If she didn't want to spend $500 she could have pulled out the pins and left.
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  • Well of course, she used the store's tailor so I'm sure they took her for all she could. But really.
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  • I was so picky too GG. I wanted to know why they were doing everything. I'm ordered one size too big for the most part. The bigger size was the perfect measurement for my hips, but one size too big for my chest and stomach. But she was very upfront with me and let me make thte decision. On top of that, she gave me her top 3 recommendations for alterationists; high end, middle range and lower end. But I asked all of these questions, I didnt' assume anything.
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  • Ok, I found the OP.  She can complain (or more likely whine) to as many people as she wants, but she has no leg to stand on when it comes to compensation.  
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  • I'm a zero and they ordered me a two specifically because 1) the designer I chose started at size two and runs through I think it was eighteen and 2) for most people who are that size, we fall between a zero and a one and dress sizes don't include ones so rather than pay a shitton of money for a dress that then has to be let out at a huge cost, we get one size up and absorb the slightly higher cost for alterations.
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  • I assume you went into that with your eyes open though? Either they told  you or you asked questions? She had no idea they even came in a size zero and she thinks that if she had a zero, she would't have had many alterations at all.
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  • I think they are both to blame.  If the store ordered a dress too big to rip her off on alterations, then they are responsible, too.  That's just wrong.  But good luck proving that.  Her stupidity is what allowed the bridal store to take advantage of her.  If they were dishonest about the sizing, I doubt there is much they'll do now.  I think she's screwed. 
  • Uhh, wouldn't you want to ask how your measurements stand against the size chart to make sure that they're ordering you the right size before you place the order?

    And $500 must be some fairly significant alterations.

  • Oh yeah. I'm not saying she's correct - she's being a bit of a maroon. I mean really, I asked for an estimation on alterations costs before I even considered buying my dress, not to do so is just insane IMO. I can't even fathom not asking about added costs and then bitching about it after the fact. The salon isn't required to volunteer it to you, it's your responsibilty to ask.
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  • Well my dress is a 12 (because of my hips) and it sorta fits everywhere else. I didnt' have to hold it up or anything, but I certainly wouldn't wear it that way. I can't imagine that theyr'e going to have to take it in very much. They are definitely ripping her off, but like someone else said, she could have taken the pins out and walked away.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_opinion-3?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:034485fd-5b65-4448-a7d3-7e012fde8197Post:68d4ac86-34a4-43d6-8681-4af58f3becbd">Re: Your opinion?</a>:
    [QUOTE]I find it strange that she's paying $500 for alterations. I think she's getting ripped the hell off because from what I have seen, there's not much difference between dress sizes right?  I mean, not much difference to the point that someone has to pay $500 to take it in right? How weird. When I was trying on dresses, size 10 and size 12 were almost the same, except 10 was a big snug in the waist area so I ordered a 12 instead.
    Posted by Champagne Supernova[/QUOTE]

    Depends a lot on dress style. Mine for example, I paid a hundred when I bought it to get a hem-to-hollow done because I'm short and when it came in I still had to have it taken up an inch, but because the skirt is 12 tulle layers edged in lace it was a lot of work and I was charged for the time. Then my bodice needed taking in and it's all beaded lacework which also is time consuming and I wanted the neckline slightly altered to a semi-sweetheart. It depends on a gazillion things - shape, size, materials, beading, accents etc.
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  • It boggles my mind how so many brides throw down money without having done ANY research or ANY comparison shopping. It's one thing if you really don't care how much you spend, but to complain about it afterward? No sympathy from me, and I'm a sympathetic person. I bet she didn't even know that she wasn't required to have her alterations doen at the store.

    Priscilla of Boston charges a flat $300 fee for a HEM. You bet your butt I'll be taking my dress elsewhere.
  • I agree that it's her responsibility. I guess I would understand more if she wore a 0 in some things and a 2 in others.  I have this issue, and when I was ordering my bridesmaid's dress for a friend's wedding they measured me and said I was a 2, and it ended up fitting perfectly.  However, if I exclusively wore 0s I think I would have been asking questions. 

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  • I guess I would have to see the dress.  Some dresses are harder to take in because of how detailed they are.  

    Regardless I asked always ask for estimates before I do alterations.  I also questioned my size with the salon even though the sample dress fit me prefectly.  I was afriad it might have been stretched out from everyone trying on the dress.  So I asked.






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  • If your bridal shop tells you the alterations will be $530 and you say, "Ok" and sign on the dotted line, you really have no leg to stand on. Please don't complain about how expensive they are when you didn't shop around. You know she figured out after the fact that what she paid was way above normal.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_opinion-3?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:034485fd-5b65-4448-a7d3-7e012fde8197Post:e80d0a46-6b3a-466b-94c4-bfd55c8ad1c5">Re: Your opinion?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Priscilla of Boston charges a flat $300 fee for a HEM. You bet your butt I'll be taking my dress elsewhere.
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  • Hey Salt, I got a link for you! You weren't on when I AW'd my e-pics. These are crap ones I took off her website bceause I couldn't wait for the disk to come in the mail!

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    "In the old days my ass would be in your back yard picking cotton, so excuse me if I don't put much stock in how f*cking awesome the old days were." -Nuggs
  • OMG. LOVE them. You are so frigging gorgeous and classic looking in all of them. :) Crap pictures? Pfffffft.
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  • Aww thanks! I love them soooo much.We had a blast doing them and it's so nice to not have the typical e-pics. We'll do traditional wedding ones, but we wanted to have fun with these ;)  I meant crap as in low-res. I had to go through 900 pictures to get these!
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  • I think it's totally her responsibility.  She didn't ask questions like she should have and just trusted them to be right.
  • She only asked if it was worth calling and complaing about and I can't see how that could hurt. 
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_opinion-3?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:034485fd-5b65-4448-a7d3-7e012fde8197Post:8ad76122-e6ec-49c3-855a-f7ddd66b41f9">Re: Your opinion?</a>:
    [QUOTE]I think they are both to blame.  If the store ordered a dress too big to rip her off on alterations, then they are responsible, too.  That's just wrong.  But good luck proving that.  Her stupidity is what allowed the bridal store to take advantage of her.  If they were dishonest about the sizing, I doubt there is much they'll do now.  I think she's screwed. 
    Posted by fangsiting[/QUOTE]


    But I do think the store is unethicall for taking advantage of her ignorance.
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