baby crap airplane seat- DAFF and other baby haters

tlv204

So I finally posted a poll on the bump about changing diapers on an airplane seat.  No responses yet since I just posted them, but here are the links if you want to follow. The first one is just on the parenting board, the second is on attachment parenting, just for fun.

PS- This is going to come back and bite me in the ass if I ever do have kids and want to post there, isn't it?

http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/30195536/ShowThread.aspx#30195536

http://community.thebump.com/cs/ks/forums/30195759/ShowThread.aspx#30195759

opalsky007

Shoot, I just hope they change them someplace...unlike the parents on one of my recent flights. They just decided their kid could make it 45 minutes to the next airport. It was stinky.

crfische

I don't hate babies at all, and I find it disgusting that people would change their diapers on the seat. DISGUSTING.

RachNRich

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_baby-crap-airplane-seat-daff-other-baby-haters?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:1e175e68-f58c-4a98-bd73-abedb4ca9eb9Post:50fa15c8-3814-4475-943d-605cb3d75a86">Re: baby crap airplane seat- DAFF and other baby haters</a>:
[QUOTE]Shoot, I just hope they change them someplace...unlike the parents on one of my recent flights. They just decided their kid could make it 45 minutes to the next airport. It was stinky.
Posted by opalsky007[/QUOTE]

<div>This is the dilemma. It's a damned it you do, damned if you don't situation. If you need to change your kid--but there's no ideal place to do it on a place--you're shunned for doing it on a seat. But if you don't change your kid, you're shunned for making your kid sit in a shitty diaper while other fliers have to smell it.</div><div>
</div><div>As such, I will not fly with children until they can wipe their own butt. Car rides will work just fine.</div>

danieliza1127

Rach - I think most people will change the baby in the plane restroom.  It's not ideal, but it's there.  It's not like a dirty diaper or seat change are the only options.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

Thank you! I hope this is entertaining. Though I'll have to bite my tongue hard to keep from replying there.

kate51485

I just flew this weekend and I think there was a little area back in the back by the bathroom where there was a curtain -- I wondered if it was for diaper changing or breast feeding?  I would NEVER have considered that you'd change it in the seat though.  It just would not cross my mind. 

RachNRich

I don't fly often, and when I do--I try to avoid the bathrooms at all cost, so their layout is escaping me right now---but is there space to change a baby in there? Even if there was a pull down table, it seems dangerous. It would be just my luck that the bumpiness would hit at the time I'd lay a baby down in an airplane bathroom. 

tlv204

Me too fishy.  Me too. Did you see the article daff posted that started this? It was a few nights ago I think, don't remember what it was called.

And ditto dani, those aren't the only options.  There is usually even a fold down shelf in the bathroom for that stuff. It's small, yes, but things are small on an airplane for a reason.  I'd rather be cramped than be a rude inconsiderate unsanitary human being.

tlv204

Rach- right, but my opinion is that if you think airplanes are that cramped or dangerous, don't fly with babies.  You have to plan for that kind of stuff. And letting the kid sid in crap or changing it on a seat ARE NOT OPTIONS in my world.

kate51485

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_baby-crap-airplane-seat-daff-other-baby-haters?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:1e175e68-f58c-4a98-bd73-abedb4ca9eb9Post:c58c3b31-6197-4e1f-b9c0-ac12cecd8a16">Re: baby crap airplane seat- DAFF and other baby haters</a>:
[QUOTE]I don't fly often, and when I do--I try to avoid the bathrooms at all cost, so their layout is escaping me right now---<strong>but is there space to change a baby in there?</strong> Even if there was a pull down table, it seems dangerous. It would be just my luck that the bumpiness would hit at the time I'd lay a baby down in an airplane bathroom. 
Posted by RachNRich[/QUOTE]

I think there may have been a little pull down thing in the bathroom itself.

laurenclaire1386

I'm glad you posted on TB. I'm eager to see responses. When I was waiting tables in college, a woman changed her kid at the table. And then asked me to throw away the dirty diaper. I told her it was against health code regulations, but I wanted to tell her to go get fuucked and use the baby changing table in the restroom, like a normal person.

tlv204

I may never fly again, or lobby to not allow babies on flights, if the responses to these polls are bad.  I cannot FATHOM how anyone would ever consider doing this.  Yes the bathroom is inconvenient for you.  Better that than making 75 other passengers hate you and vomit at the same time.

sucrets4

rach - I'm pretty sure there are changing stations in the restrooms. 

ac_in_dc

Yeah, with DH getting stationed across the country 3 months after the baby comes, I'm not going to have any choice but to fly with him.

Just to play devil's advocate--in places like DC (I don't know about other airports) you're not allowed out of your seat for the last 45 minuted of a flight b/c of terrorism risk. What do you do in that case? Leave the baby in a shitty diaper so it stinks and cries? Or a pissy one? I don't know, it doesn't seem like there's much in the way of a good solution there.

opalsky007

OMG, Lauren, that is foul. I would have called a manager or something.

tlv204

ac- I have no idea about that, I had never heard of that rule before so didn't really think about it. 

TurtlesAllTheWayDown

I assume the changing table in the restroom has a restraint strap. Most of them do that aren't even on airplanes. I think the main issue is when parents travel alone (without a spouse or grandparent) and have 2-3 young children with them. What do they do with the other children in the tiny restroom? Personally, they aren't going to go far. I think you can reasonably expect a 2 or 3 year old to wait quietly in their seat or right outside the restroom. Or ask a flight attendent for help. Its not like someone can kidnap a kid at 35,000 feet and get away with it.

ac_in_dc

Yeah, I'm going to have to unavoidably fly with my baby. DH is being stationed 3000 miles away from where we are now when the kid will be 2.5 months old.

And then my parents will be across the country, and they can't fly for health reasons, so at some point I'll come back to DC so that my folks can see their grandson. And then DH will be stationed in RI and VA for 5 months of training when the kid is about 18 months old, and if the navy chooses to keep us on the west coast, I'll be flying east at that point to make sure he gets to see his dad.

I'll try not to get baby shiit on any of my fellow passengers, though.

[Deleted User]

how magnanimous of you.

les, this is not a topic i will likely chill on.

smokeybailey

I don't remember seeing a changing table on a flight except for an international one.  However, since I am on the anti-baby train, I may have never noticed.