Stupid Invites - more questions

noelwellin

Does everyone get Mr./Mrs./Ms./Miss in front of their name on the outer envelopes? Or is saying John Smith ok as opposed to Mr. John Smith and Jane Smith as opposed to Miss/Ms. Jane Smith?

And I feel like this one has been asked a million times, but I can't find it on here or the I&P board.  Divorced women - Ms. or Miss?  

Does the state name need to be spelled, or can I just say PA instead of Pennsylvania?

Thanks!

ETA: Sorry about the invite questions, I feel like an idiot for not knowing this stuff considering how often it's discussed in here.  So I really appreciate the help.

hz80408

oes everyone get Mr./Mrs./Ms./Miss in front of their name on the outer envelopes? Or is saying John Smith ok as opposed to Mr. John Smith and Jane Smith as opposed to Miss/Ms. Jane Smith?
We used titles.  For married couples, use Mr. and Mrs. John Smith

For non-married couples:
Ms. Jane Doe
Mr. John Smith

Female first unless you know the male better (example like a male cousin and his gf or something)

And I feel like this one has been asked a million times, but I can't find it on here or the I&P board.  Divorced women - Ms. or Miss?   We didn't use "Miss" for any female over 18, although I believe proper etiquette says Miss, nowadays I think most people stick to the 18+ rule of using Ms.

Does the state name need to be spelled, or can I just say PA instead of Pennsylvania? Ideally it should be spelled out.

AbbeyS2011

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[QUOTE]Does everyone get Mr./Mrs./Ms./Miss in front of their name on the outer envelopes? Or is saying John Smith ok as opposed to Mr. John Smith and Jane Smith as opposed to Miss/Ms. Jane Smith? And I feel like this one has been asked a million times, but I can't find it on here or the I&P board.  Divorced women - Ms. or Miss?   Does the state name need to be spelled, or can I just say PA instead of Pennsylvania? Thanks!
Posted by noelwellin[/QUOTE]

1) Outer envelopes always need to be address as Mr./Ms./Miss/Mrs. Smith.  You would address it as this:

Mr. & Mrs. John Smith (married)
Mr. John Smith & Mrs. Jane Jones -Smith (hyphenated name)
Mr. John Smith & Miss Jane Jones (living together or a engaged couple)
or
Mr. John Smith
Miss. Jane Jones
Address

Divorced women:  As one myself, I prefer Ms. instead of Miss with my current last name.  Some divorced women revert back to their maiden name, but still go by Ms.

For the states, the abbreviation is fine.  PA, NY, etc.  If not sure, look it up.  Missouri is MO, Mississppi is MS, Michigan is MI. 

HTH

StacyJenniges

I think it depends on how formal your wedding is, and how etquitte concious your guests are.  I am not going to be using Mr and Mrs, I'm just going to be using names, and in most cases "and Family" if the family is invited.  But that is because our wedding isn't really that formal, and our families are not very etquitte concious, both families are really close and feel many of these things are too "stuffy". 

noelwellin

Thanks, ladies, you've helped a lot.  The wedding is formal, but I don't know how etiquette conscious my family members are, so I'll just err on the side of caution and use the titles.  I did a few envelopes without titles, so I'll just rewrite them since I have quite a few extras.  I don't know why I didn't think of this before I started writing them, but whatever, at least I didn't write out all of them and realize it.  

And katelyn, thanks for the heads up on the mail sorters, that's good to know!

SirJuliusVonHaast

I'm planning to use formal titles for my invitations, but I'm a little worried about how some of my younger married friends will respond to Mr. and Mrs. John Smith. I may end up with the longer/terrible sounding Ms. Mary and Mr. John Smith.