Don't know how to feel about job situation

MrsMack10612

With a communications degree, couldn't you do something with PR?  A market to look into would be with non-profit organizations that do lots of fundraising, but don't necessarily have the funding to pay a seasoned veteran.  We all know that "fresh out of college" generally means you start on the bottom of the salary rung - perhaps something like that might be worth looking into.

Since I don't know what you are truly interested in, this is just a suggestion - you can tell me to pound sand.

louisvillebride21

Yeah, marketing or PR is what I'm really interested in. I don't mind starting at the bottom. I just would like something that's going to point me in that direction. That's why I took this job in the first place.

MrsMack10612

My other suggestion then would by while you are trying to find the right job or the right place to get the right job...try doing a few things freelance.  Go to local organizations or businesses in your area (smaller ones of course) and ask if they have any upcoming events that they need marketing for.  It could be as simple as a church bizarre or a local charity event; things like that.

You may not get paid a lot, but it might give you some experience that employers will look at.

Of course as I finish typing this, I realize these are things you've probably already thought of...but I'm putting it out there anyway

louisvillebride21

No, I appreciate any help I can get!

akhensley81

LVB- I'm having a hard time finding the specific requirements on that website too. I would recommend you call a local office or stop by one (there was a list of locations on the website) to find out if you would qualify. Otherwise, once your job is done, just go there and tell them you want to file for unemployment. Go through the process, and see what happens.

akhensley81

Oh - P.S. Call that MRI recruiter back once your assignment is done and let him/her know.

louisvillebride21

Oh, I'm in weekly contact with her, trying to find me something else. Plus, my boss told me to email her and her start sending him more resumes. So I had to tell my recruiter to start looking for my replacement. Awesome.

Snippylynn

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-feel-job-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:37e1a239-0e1c-4188-a9af-eb2c6b5fe4fbPost:53888cdd-24f1-4260-98e3-9df7efaea183">Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation</a>:
[QUOTE]Oh, I'm in weekly contact with her, trying to find me something else. Plus, my boss told me to email her and her start sending him more resumes. So I had to tell my recruiter to start looking for my replacement. Awesome.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]
That sucks.

NuggetBrain

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[QUOTE]Oh, I'm in weekly contact with her, trying to find me something else. Plus, my boss told me to email her and her start sending him more resumes. So I had to tell my recruiter to start looking for my replacement. Awesome.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

Ok, now that was a straight up d!ck move.

Birdie1483

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-feel-job-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:37e1a239-0e1c-4188-a9af-eb2c6b5fe4fbPost:53888cdd-24f1-4260-98e3-9df7efaea183">Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation</a>:
[QUOTE]Oh, I'm in weekly contact with her, trying to find me something else. <strong>Plus, my boss told me to email her and her start sending him more resumes. </strong>So I had to tell my recruiter to start looking for my replacement. Awesome.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

Besides all of the other things you've said about him, this makes him a certifiable assswipe.

louisvillebride21

Oh, AK, can I cheat on my recruiter? Am I 'allowed' to sign up with mor ethan one agency?

And he's always seemed like a nice guy. But yeah, that sucked.

Ash2985

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-feel-job-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:37e1a239-0e1c-4188-a9af-eb2c6b5fe4fbPost:53888cdd-24f1-4260-98e3-9df7efaea183">Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation</a>:
[QUOTE]Oh, I'm in weekly contact with her, trying to find me something else. Plus, my boss told me to email her and her start sending him more resumes. So I had to tell my recruiter to start looking for my replacement. Awesome.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

<div>That's a really crappy position to put you in.  </div><div>
</div><div>ETA: Yes, sign up with as many agencies as you can.  More people helping you in your job search can only benefit you!  Unless for some weird reason your recruiter has an exclusivity thing, which I've never heard of anyone doing.</div>

MrsMack10612

When I was unemployed, I "worked" with more than one recruiter.  They frown on it a bit - but just be upfront if that it's the case.  Sometimes if you are working with a temp agency vs. a headhunter - it's not such a big deal.

Mostly I just spent most of my days scouring Careerbuilder.com and Monster.com.  I probably was sending out 10+ resumes a day.

NuggetBrain

I got the job I'm at now through a temp agency after going at it on my own for like, 9 months.  At one point I was signed up with 4 of them offically.

akhensley81

LVB- Definitely. Just because you're signed up with 1, it doesn't mean that you can't go out and seek out another.

Just make sure you're extra careful that both recruiters don't try to submit your resume for the same position with the same company. Tell them both that you would like to give your expressed permission before they send in your resume anywhere. That way, if Recruiter A calls you about a job at XYZ Company and you give them the OK to submit your resume... when Recruiter B calls you about the same job a week later, you can tell them you've already applied to that job.

Commissioned recruiters will literally get in to catfights with each other, when a paycheck is on the line. You don't want to be in the middle of one of those.

louisvillebride21

Ok, I'll sign up with more then. I sure hope it works! I am looking on my own of course. The rejection letters sure are piling up too.

louisvillebride21

AK, A couple weeks ago, my recruiter called me and asked me to send her an updated resume. She told me she wasn't allowed to tell me where she was sending it though. She told me the position, but that's all she would tell me. Is that normal?

Snippylynn

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-feel-job-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:37e1a239-0e1c-4188-a9af-eb2c6b5fe4fbPost:79154e42-da8d-4a6b-8198-a73ae8e5ddc0">Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation</a>:
[QUOTE]Ok, I'll sign up with more then. I sure hope it works! I am looking on my own of course. The rejection letters sure are piling up too.
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

We should compare some time.  :D I've got quite a pile of my own too.

MrsMack10612

The most important thing I found was try to stay positive.  I had no bites for months and then within 24 business hours I had a job (interviewed 10am Friday, job offer for highest salary requirement 5pm Monday).

The right fit is out there.  I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.

MrsMack10612

Not telling you the employer is normal.  They do that for a number of reasons, not the least of which AK said about catfights.

They don't want other recruiters finding out or you to go on your own, then they lose commission.

If you let her know up front that you may be working with others - she might be a bit more forthcoming.

akhensley81

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[QUOTE]AK, A couple weeks ago, my recruiter called me and asked me to send her an updated resume. She told me she wasn't allowed to tell me where she was sending it though. She told me the position, but that's all she would tell me. Is that normal?
Posted by louisvillebride21[/QUOTE]

Some recruiters will try to get away with that. Sometimes the company wants to remain confidential, other times the recruiter might not want to tell you for whatever reason. I would continue to push and find out WHY she won't tell you. And come back to her and say, "I would like to know where you're sending my personal information." If it really makes you uncomfortable, you can tell her no. Or you can ask her to remove all identifying information from your resume before she sends it.

ichellemay1

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[QUOTE]It sounds to me like he's just looking out for himself.  He has a pretty good idea that you're going to leave when something better comes along, so he's covering his own butt by finding someone now who he thinks will stay in the position longterm.  I don't think it's a reflection on your performance at all. 
Posted by AliGirl11[/QUOTE]

This.

Birdie1483

Indeed.com is also a good job search engine. It pulls from a variety of sites like careerbuilder, monster, and some lesser known job search websites. It also pulls local things like kentuckyworks.com (when you put in Louisville, KY as the location).

Ash2985

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-feel-job-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:37e1a239-0e1c-4188-a9af-eb2c6b5fe4fbPost:2d1f243a-79c5-4482-94c1-fe1385426c8d">Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation : Some recruiters will try to get away with that. Sometimes the company wants to remain confidential, other times the recruiter might not want to tell you for whatever reason. I would continue to push and find out WHY she won't tell you. And come back to her and say, "I would like to know where you're sending my personal information." If it really makes you uncomfortable, you can tell her no. Or you can ask her to remove all identifying information from your resume before she sends it.
Posted by akhensley81[/QUOTE]

<div>We don't tell our applicants the name of the companies before we submit their resumes, but make sure the salary range, location, etc. are all things the applicant is OK with.  We don't tell them the name of the company because some of the applicants won't stop contacting the companies on their own once they know the resume has been submitted-- some have shown up at the companies themselves without an interview.  Doesn't turn out well.</div>

louisvillebride21

Oh, ok, I understand that. Thanks for all the advice and tips everyone. I really appreciate it.

And Snippy? You needs to come here for the comparison to start! Lynns is calling our name!

akhensley81

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_dont-feel-job-situation?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:37e1a239-0e1c-4188-a9af-eb2c6b5fe4fbPost:74f53b59-a7a3-4c2e-a77b-bd8c45489d13">Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Don't know how to feel about job situation : We don't tell our applicants the name of the companies before we submit their resumes, but make sure the salary range, location, etc. are all things the applicant is OK with.  We don't tell them the name of the company because some of the applicants won't stop contacting the companies on their own once they know the resume has been submitted-- some have shown up at the companies themselves without an interview.  Doesn't turn out well.
Posted by Ash2985[/QUOTE]

You're right, that's definitely a risk that the search firm takes when they disclose that information to the candidate. It's been a few years now since I was in executive search - and maybe it was the "crowd" I was dealing with but we didn't run in to that too much. (Our niche market was outside sales people in the office furniture industry.)

However, I still think it's the candidate's right to know / approve a submittal before it's made. I've heard horror stories from the other side, of recruiters submitting resumes without expressed permission and the candidate either a) Didn't want to work for that company, or b) Had some other sort of personal problem with the client/hiring manager... and a lawsuit came out of it. The candidate will win that every single time.