attire etiquette

batfacepattermonth

Now that I've read that one should never wear a tux before 5 pm, I'm feeling kind of weird that FI chose tuxes for our morning wedding (reception over by 4 or 5). I don't want to look like uneducated buffoons . How serious an etiquette offense is this? He chose grey. Is that perchance better than black for daytime?

NOLAbridealmost

I don't think it's a big deal. I've never seen a grey tux.  If you're really concerned, just have them wear grey suits. 

Meg1036

Technically, no tuxes in the daytime.  In reality, I see it at weddings all the time.  That doesn't make it right, but most people probably won't notice or care.

bmoruzzi

I would never notice something like this.  Do you think your friends would?  I think it depends on your crowd.  

mica178

Could you go with a morning suit?

RebeccaB88

A morning coat is what's technically most appropriate.  Tuxes are reserved for after 5. 

But yeah, I always see tuxes at daytime weddings. Doesn't mean it's right, but then people may or may not know if you're doing it right or not. 

RaptorSLH

It's not such a big prohibition now as it used to be.  I think full-on tails are about the only thing that still look odd in the AM.  Depending on your social circle, there's a good chance no one would know or care.

staceycaine

Wait, what? My FI is wearing a tux, and our wedding is at 4pm. I've never heard of this. Ever.

NOLAbridealmost

Yeah, Stacey. Tuxes are technically only appropriate after 6:00 PM per like Amy Vanderbilt, Emily Post, etc. 

I really don't think it's a big deal in most circles.

LetsHikeToday

We had grey tuxes. We rented them through jos. A. Bank. If that helps at all.

annakb8

Yeah, PPs are right. Technically no tuxedos before 6 and a morning suit would be more appropriate. That's what my H and his groomsmen wore for our 1 pm wedding.

However, this is one of those things that doesn't matter all that much. What your FI and his attendants wear doesn't matter all that much and doesn't affect the experience of your guests. If you wanted them to wear tuxedos to your morning wedding that would be a different story, but these days they groom can wear pretty much whatever he wants.

kmmssg

I'm with the others in that yes, etiquette says it's a no-no, but consider all of the weddings you have attended of family and friends.  Surely some of them were afternoon weddings.  Did they wear tuxes?  I have to also say this is an absolute no big deal in my circle and I certainly wouldn't be sitting in the ceremony venue whispering to DH, "can you BELIEVE they wore tuxes?"

BMcLeodTeam

I'm with many of the posters on here... yes, its not proper etiquette as per the rules however in 99% of circles no one would even notice. I have been to plenty of weddings where I think I was the only one realizing that this was the case... it depends on your social circle and whether anyone would notice this or not...

RaptorSLH

[QUOTE] (Top hats, too, if you are jewish.)  [/QUOTE]

<div>I get that you're from one of the few social circles where this is a big deal, (in mine, I think  FMIL is the only one who would know the difference between a cut away jacket, a morning coat, and a tux) but what does being Jewish have to do with top hats?</div>

batfacepattermonth

Thanks everyone. The groom insists on renting a tux rather than making the guys buy a suit, however if I could find a morning jacket or suit or any of those things to *rent* I could probably change his mind. However no luck there in my area-- I've asked several menswear shops. Fortunately I can probably count on nobody in my circle noticing... except me

annakb8

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[QUOTE]Thanks everyone. The groom insists on renting a tux rather than making the guys buy a suit, however if I could find a morning jacket or suit or any of those things to *rent* I could probably change his mind. However no luck there in my area-- I've asked several menswear shops. Fortunately I can probably count on nobody in my circle noticing... except me :)
Posted by batfacepattermonth[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>My H and his attendants rented their morning coats from Men's Wearhouse. If there is one in your area they should have some. 

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tenofcups4me

Dh rented a morning suit from our local tux place. They should be available at any place where you rent tuxes if that's what you want to do.

tpender13

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[QUOTE]Thanks everyone. The groom insists on renting a tux rather than making the guys buy a suit, however if I could find a morning jacket or suit or any of those things to *rent* I could probably change his mind. However no luck there in my area-- I've asked several menswear shops. Fortunately I can probably count on nobody in my circle noticing... except me :)
Posted by batfacepattermonth[/QUOTE]

Often, a suit can be purchased for about the same or less than a tux rental.

mrszeno34

Ugh, I don't like the look of a morning suit, I will stick with tuxes and we're getting married at 2pm.  I don't think anyone in my family would think twice about it.

J&K10910

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: attire etiquette : Often, a suit can be purchased for about the same or less than a tux rental.
Posted by tpender13[/QUOTE]

Yeah, a crappy suit.  Sorry, but if I'm going to buy something to keep, I want it to be nice, and no, you're not going to find a nice suit for less than $200 unless it's on killer sale.

annakb8

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: attire etiquette : Yeah, a crappy suit.  Sorry, but if I'm going to buy something to keep, I want it to be nice, and no, you're not going to find a nice suit for less than $200 unless it's on killer sale.
Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>Ditto J. You can rent suits, the same way you rent tuxedos though. So I mean it's pretty much the same. Wearing suits doesn't equal everyone buying suits.

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batfacepattermonth

Anna, I actually read something about a morning coat on Men's Warehouse's FAQ and so I inquired about it locally. The woman helping me had no idea what I was talking about and insisted they only rent tuxes. That's fine if they only rent tuxes at my location, but they should at least know what I'm talking about! Truth be told I think the ladies at the shops around here know less than I do, which hasn't been easy.

annakb8

Yeah, I'm not surprised she didn't know what a morning coat is. It seems like a lot of employees at men's shops have no idea what they're talking about. She probably thought it was a kind of tuxedo. Maybe (hopefully) she would know what it was if you showed her a picture. 

RaptorSLH

Thanks!  I didn't know they could substitute other hats for a yarmulke, but that makes sense.