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should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...

 So I told one of my close girlfriends ( or at least I thought she was)  that I'm getting married next year and she was underwhelmed to say the least. She's been more excited about me buying fruit... I'm not kidding.  She said that she was just tired, but happy for me. Then it started: I told her I was trying to watch my diet since my dress would need altered and could only be changed two sizes without changing my dress.  Then she wanted to eat sweets! She  began to make comments about how I " don't want to lose to much right?" and  how she would never want to be skinny. And let me tell you something, you will NOT meet a more dedicated to getting thin person than her! Plus, I'm not anywhere near skinny or thin actually. I'm a healthy size 8 ( down from a 14!) just trying to tone up a bit and get back to my healthy weight/ size. Can't a girl live? Anyhow, while all my other girlfriends & bridesmaids  kept talking about the wedding ( dresses, cake, lingerie lol) she kept trying to talk smack on a former friend of ours, and about how she thinks her BF is going to propose. That's fair, I guess. All the wedding talk can and does get annoying even to me.  
But,  when I asked her to be my bridesmaid she said, " I guess...if I have the money. I don't really see the big deal. I may not even have bridesmaids." I told her that we would provide a $50 giftcard to the store for gowns or shoes or if she had a wedding appropriate little black dress that would be okay. And that we are giving them crystal embellishments for their dresses as well as robes, totes and  jewelry as gifts, a paid bridal luncheon and  mani/pedi spa kit ALL FREE. She just ho-hummed and told me only her sister and her bf sister would be her bridesmaids. And how she didn't see where she would wear the dress again, which is TOTAl b.s. com since its a LBD! That's was the whole point of their dresses lol!  I told her that she didn't need to feel obligated to be my bridesmaid ( or have me be hers) , and that my goal was to have the girls purchase gowns they could indeed wear elsewhere after the wedding ( plus we would help them pay!). I just wanted to show them how much they meant to me, and make them as much a part of my wedding as family since they are in many ways. Then she said some things about gas ( for her car), weight ( how fat she was getting, but wanted us to go to IHOP) and how she really wanted a plate of pasta ( which we ended up eating...well I ate half).  
And that's all I can remember. I'm really hurt because she is one of my close girlfriends and I love her. As I said, she was ALWAYS happy for me, but now it's become a competition. While my other girlfriends are signing up for Barre classes, she's making snide comments about how my boobs will sag in my bridal bikini  should I lose anymore weight. Or about how my ring is too this or too that. Or about my relationship in general ( suddenly she feels the need to have me evaluate my relationship, and it's all stupid silly fights aka dishes and toilet paper). It really hurts!  My mother, and future Mother In Law ( who I adore btw)  are NOT okay with her even coming near the wedding.
So my question is: Should I just invite her as a guest only? It will be weird to have her NOT be a bridesmaid since we've been friends for 4 years. But I'm not about having someone do what they don't want to do.  I'm really hurt and confused. I just want everyone to be happy. But I don't want to be foolish either. I can't help but think this is the end of my friendship. Or maybe it's been a long time coming and I'm just now seeing it. 
Thanks Smile Sorry this was so long and written so poorly. I didn't realize how bad it was until I typed it up. :-/ 

Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...

  • Maybe she's just not into weddings, even if she is, no one will be as excited about your wedding as you will be.

    If you tell her nevermind to being a bridesmaid, it will likely end the friendship. If you want the friendship to end, then end the friendship and the bridesmaid thing will follow naturally.

    She sounds like she's jealous, and while she shouldn't be acting that way, I can sympathize. I remember when two good friends of mine got married back-to-back and I wanted to marry H badly but he wasn't ready yet and it was tough.
  • If you remove your friend from the BP, that will be a friendship ending move.  Do not do this.  Some people are just not wedding people and she seems to be one of those people.  Stop talking wedding things with her.  Stop talking about wanting to lose weight or tone up.  Just decline her offer for sweets or plates of pasta.

    Has your friend always acted this way?  If so, she is not going to change her normal ways just for your wedding.
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  • She sounds jealous and petty. 

    People act this way when they are unsatisfied with their own lives. Do not let her negativity affect you or your wedding plans. It sounds like you're doing a lot to make this a fun experience for your bridesmaids, so don't let her "pooh-pooh" everything. 

    If she continues acting this way and you really feel the need then speak with her privately and let her know that her attitude is not appreciated. She may not even realize that she's offending and/or hurting you. Her reaction to this will tell you whether or not your friendship is over. 

    I don't know if you're comfortable with confronting someone like this (I certainly am), but if not then you're going to have to turn a deaf ear to her. But I personally wouldn't want someone negative and petty around me, especially on my wedding day. 

    Just don't let her spoil your wedding. 

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  • Let it go.   It sounds like she's too focused on her disappointments to be happy for others.

    Keep her in the wedding and expect nothing from her.
  • My first question in things like this is always...have you told her what an asshat she's being?  I mean, even best-friends-forever aren't mind readers.  It's possible that she genuinely doesn't realize that she's being so rude.  She could be wrapped up in her own little world.  For a long time friendship, it's worth saying "You know, after years of friendship I kinda expected a little less negativity about this.  Cheap shots about my ring or my body are out of character for you, and it's starting to piss me off."  My inclination is to start with a discussion. 

    If you decide to ask her to no longer be a bridesmaid, I think I would probably recommend you wait until she throws her next fit to do it.  Kind of a "last straw" thing...so she grumps about how painful shoes are for walking down the aisle and I'd go "After you've said so much about how inconvineient this is, I realize that you really don't want to do this.  Why don't you come as a guest instead?"   Maybe friendship ending, but honest...which is a big deal to me. 
  • Jealous much?  My mom does this petty crap when she is trying to sabotoge me.  Sends me candy etc.   Offers to take me to dinner etc.  nope nope and nope.  
  • has she actually agreed to be BM?

    I would say "it doesnt look like your going to enjoy this and I want you to have a good time at the wedding, so would you rather come as a guest?" Hopefully she will say yes thank god or step up the task and stop being so snarky. Losing her sounds like no great loss tbh.

    Anymore boob comments Id say "Did you mean to sound so rude?"

    She sounds unhappy and projecting. Lots of people hate weddings but can summon up the enthusiam for a close friend.
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    [QUOTE]My first question in things like this is always...have you told her what an asshat she's being?  I mean, even best-friends-forever aren't mind readers.  It's possible that she genuinely doesn't realize that she's being so rude.  She could be wrapped up in her own little world.  <strong>For a long time friendship, it's worth saying "You know, after years of friendship I kinda expected a little less negativity about this.  Cheap shots about my ring or my body are out of character for you, and it's starting to piss me off."  My inclination is to start with a discussion.  If you decide to ask her to no longer be a bridesmaid, I think I would probably recommend you wait until she throws her next fit to do i</strong>t.  Kind of a "last straw" thing...so she grumps about how painful shoes are for walking down the aisle and I'd go <strong>"After you've said so much about how inconvineient this is, I realize that you really don't want to do this.  Why don't you come as a guest instead?"   Maybe friendship ending, but honest...which is a big deal to me. </strong>
    Posted by SilverSarahB[/QUOTE]

    All of this. I really have no time for petty, childish people and that's what she's being. I wouldn't talk about the wedding with her at all (I know it's hard sometimes <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" />). I'm betting that if she's just looking to stir things up it won't take her long to start talking about it herself - then you'll know.

    It's hurtful and sad, but sometimes friendships end. Life is too short not to be happy and not to be surrounded by wonderful people who care for you and your feelings.
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  • If you've already asked her to be in the wedding, you can't kick her out that's rude and friendship ending as others have stated.  However, I do think you are well within the right to let her know how her comments are making you feel.  I would keep it away from wedding related comments though.......don't call her out on the stuff about dress or shoes, because as others have said no one is as excited about your wedding as you are, especially if you are still a ways out.  But the stuff about your boobs and discouraging you from eating healthy, I would most definitely be calling her out on it and letting her know how much her cheap shots are huting you.
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    [QUOTE] So I told one of my close girlfriends ( or at least I thought she was)  that I'm getting married next year and she was underwhelmed to say the least. She's been more excited about me buying fruit... I'm not kidding.  She said that she was just tired, but happy for me. Then it started: I told her I was trying to watch my diet since my dress would need altered and could only be changed two sizes without changing my dress.  Then she wanted to eat sweets! She  began to make comments about how I " don't want to lose to much right?" and  how she would never want to be skinny. And let me tell you something, you will NOT meet a more dedicated to getting thin person than her! Plus, I'm not anywhere near skinny or thin actually. I'm a healthy size 8 ( down from a 14!) just trying to tone up a bit and get back to my healthy weight/ size. Can't a girl live? Anyhow, while all my other girlfriends & bridesmaids  kept talking about the wedding ( dresses, cake, lingerie lol) she kept trying to talk smack on a former friend of ours, and about how she thinks her BF is going to propose. That's fair, I guess. All the wedding talk can and does get annoying even to me.   But,  when I asked her to be my bridesmaid she said, " I guess...if I have the money. I don't really see the big deal. I may not even have bridesmaids." <strong>I told her that we would provide a $50 giftcard to the store for gowns or shoes or if she had a wedding appropriate little black dress that would be okay. And that we are giving them crystal embellishments for their dresses as well as robes, totes and  jewelry as gifts, a paid bridal luncheon and  mani/pedi spa kit ALL FREE.</strong> She just ho-hummed and told me only her sister and her bf sister would be her bridesmaids. And how she didn't see where she would wear the dress again, which is TOTAl b.s. com since its a LBD! That's was the whole point of their dresses lol!  I told her that she didn't need to feel obligated to be my bridesmaid ( or have me be hers) , and that my goal was to have the girls purchase gowns they could indeed wear elsewhere after the wedding ( plus we would help them pay!). I just wanted to show them how much they meant to me, and make them as much a part of my wedding as family since they are in many ways. Then she said some things about gas ( for her car), weight ( how fat she was getting, but wanted us to go to IHOP) and how she really wanted a plate of pasta ( which we ended up eating...well I ate half).   And that's all I can remember. I'm really hurt because she is one of my close girlfriends and I love her. As I said, she was ALWAYS happy for me, but now it's become a competition. While my other girlfriends are signing up for Barre classes, she's making snide comments about how my boobs will sag in my bridal bikini  should I lose anymore weight. Or about how my ring is too this or too that. Or about my relationship in general ( suddenly she feels the need to have me evaluate my relationship, and it's all stupid silly fights aka dishes and toilet paper). It really hurts!  My mother, and future Mother In Law ( who I adore btw)  are NOT okay with her even coming near the wedding. So my question is: Should I just invite her as a guest only? It will be weird to have her NOT be a bridesmaid since we've been friends for 4 years. But I'm not about having someone do what they don't want to do.  I'm really hurt and confused. I just want everyone to be happy. But I don't want to be foolish either. I can't help but think this is the end of my friendship. Or maybe it's been a long time coming and I'm just now seeing it.  Thanks   Sorry this was so long and written so poorly. I didn't realize how bad it was until I typed it up. :-/ 
    Posted by pattilicious08[/QUOTE]

    Anything you are requiring, like crystal embellishments for their dresses or specific shoes or mandatory attendance at bridal luncheons or mani/pedi spa days aren't gifts. You should absolutely be providing these.
     
    Take the wedding out of the equation and concentrate on the friendship. Find out what's going on in her life that has her so down. Be a friend.

    And god, I hate it when women come back with "Oh, she's just jealous!" when somebody isn't doing backflips over somebody else's pretty princess day.
  • I had a friend turn bridezilla on me because she was getting married close to my date, and was jealous of my wedding. Though I was left to figure that out on my own through a series of nasty treatment from her. I don't consider her a friend anymore, and just stopped hanging out with her. Hold toxic people at arms length, you don't need to spend time with them when you are under so much stress.
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    [QUOTE] So I told one of my close girlfriends ( or at least I thought she was)  that I'm getting married next year and she was underwhelmed to say the least. She's been more excited about me buying fruit... I'm not kidding.  She said that she was just tired, but happy for me. Then it started: I told her I was trying to watch my diet since my dress would need altered and could only be changed two sizes without changing my dress.  Then she wanted to eat sweets! She  began to make comments about how I " don't want to lose to much right?" and  how she would never want to be skinny. And let me tell you something, you will NOT meet a more dedicated to getting thin person than her! Plus, I'm not anywhere near skinny or thin actually. I'm a healthy size 8 ( down from a 14!) just trying to tone up a bit and get back to my healthy weight/ size. Can't a girl live? Anyhow, while all my other girlfriends & bridesmaids  kept talking about the wedding ( dresses, cake, lingerie lol) she kept trying to talk smack on a former friend of ours, and about how she thinks her BF is going to propose. That's fair, I guess. All the wedding talk can and does get annoying even to me.   But,  when I asked her to be my bridesmaid she said, " I guess...if I have the money. I don't really see the big deal. I may not even have bridesmaids." I told her that we would provide a $50 giftcard to the store for gowns or shoes or if she had a wedding appropriate little black dress that would be okay. And that we are giving them crystal embellishments for their dresses as well as robes, totes and  jewelry as gifts, a paid bridal luncheon and  mani/pedi spa kit ALL FREE. She just ho-hummed and told me only her sister and her bf sister would be her bridesmaids. And how she didn't see where she would wear the dress again, which is TOTAl b.s. com since its a LBD! That's was the whole point of their dresses lol!  I told her that she didn't need to feel obligated to be my bridesmaid ( or have me be hers) , and that my goal was to have the girls purchase gowns they could indeed wear elsewhere after the wedding ( plus we would help them pay!). I just wanted to show them how much they meant to me, and make them as much a part of my wedding as family since they are in many ways. Then she said some things about gas ( for her car), weight ( how fat she was getting, but wanted us to go to IHOP) and how she really wanted a plate of pasta ( which we ended up eating...well I ate half).   And that's all I can remember. I'm really hurt because she is one of my close girlfriends and I love her. As I said, she was ALWAYS happy for me, but now it's become a competition. While my other girlfriends are signing up for Barre classes, she's making snide comments about how my boobs will sag in my bridal bikini  should I lose anymore weight. Or about how my ring is too this or too that. Or about my relationship in general ( suddenly she feels the need to have me evaluate my relationship, and it's all stupid silly fights aka dishes and toilet paper). It really hurts!  My mother, and future Mother In Law ( who I adore btw)  are NOT okay with her even coming near the wedding. So my question is: Should I just invite her as a guest only? It will be weird to have her NOT be a bridesmaid since we've been friends for 4 years. But I'm not about having someone do what they don't want to do.  I'm really hurt and confused. I just want everyone to be happy. But I don't want to be foolish either. I can't help but think this is the end of my friendship. Or maybe it's been a long time coming and I'm just now seeing it.  Thanks   Sorry this was so long and written so poorly. I didn't realize how bad it was until I typed it up. :-/ 
    Posted by pattilicious08[/QUOTE]



    I had almost the same thing happen to me! Awesome friends for 4 years...she went bananas on me when I asked her to be a BM and told me- 'wow, everything's always about you isn't it?' She never really gave me a straight answer either. She told me that I would definitely need to lose weight so that I could look decent for the wedding and so many other hurtful things. As much as it hurt, I just stopped communicating with her little by little. My weddig's in 3 weeks and she sent me a few messages asking me the details. I just told her the month and the city...no more info. My mom brought up a good point- I don't want her negativity around and I shouldn't feel obligated to invite her to my wedding anyway. It's hard and feels strange/awkward, but in my case it had to happen. I hope that you don't have to go that far, but I wouldn't have her terrible, ungrateful attitude anywhere near our big day. HOpe that helps a little.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : I feel like you selectively read OP's post. Yeah her friend doesn't need to be doing backflips over the wedding, but saying that you don't get the point of bridesmaids when a close friend asked you to be one is crappy. You can either say yes or no, but not giving a straight answer and belittling someone who is trying to honor you in their wedding is extremely rude. So is making snide comments about a friend's body and relationship. If I were the OP I would be pissed too.  Also your "put the wedding aside and be a friend" advice seems misplaced here. OP's friend is being a jerk. Doing things like telling someone her that her boobs will sag if she loses more weight is not the way you treat someone you care about- I don't care how badly things are going in your life. If I were OP I'd put some emotional distance between myself and this girl, not take her rude behavior as a sign that I should open myself up for abuse more.  OP, did she ever actually say yes or no to being a BM? From your post it doesn't sound like it. If I were you I'd say "Hey you never said one way or another if you'd like to be in my WP. Is this something you want to do?" If she says yes then keep her but don't expect anything. If she says no then problem solved. I would hold her to giving an answer though. 
    Posted by HoorayForSoup[/QUOTE]

    "Put the wedding aside and be a friend" is never misplaced advice. It's a party. One day. That's it. Friendship always trumps a party.

    Now if the OP would come back and tell us, as has been asked, if this friend has always behaved this way, that would be helpful. It would be nice to know if this friend has always been a snot and OP is expecting her entire attitude to change just because she's getting married, or if this is recent behavior. If it's recent behavior, then yes, it would behoove OP to be a friend instead of a bride-to-be and inquire about deeper issues.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : Truthfully I don't see how whether or not this behavior started recently matters. I'll acknowledge that there very well might be something deeper than jealously going on with OP's friend, but I don't see how that's at all an excuse. Everyone has problems and goes through difficult times, it is not a justification for being consistently mean to the people around you.  For the sake of context: Right now it looks like my mother is probably going to lose her battle against a chronic illness that she's struggled with for the majority of my life. It's an incredibly difficult time. The fact that I am in pain does not give me a "Get out of jail free card" to act like a jerk. If I told one of my friends that her boobs will sag if she loses any more weight (as opposed to I don't know... being supportive) I would expect her to get royally pissed at me, not to say "Well Soup is going through a lot right now so I guess I should be a friend and let her treat me like crap." Frankly I would find it patronizing if people didn't hold me to the same standards as everyone else just because I'm going through a tough time. 
    Posted by HoorayForSoup[/QUOTE]

    Where did I say it would give her a Get Out of Jail Free card? I didn't.  But if she was going through something like what you're going through, it might help to explain why she's not at her best right now. If she's having a crappy time at home, the bride could be a little more understanding of her behavior.

    Also, it totally matters if her friend has always been a snot or if it's new behavior. Again, no Get Out of Jail Free card, but many is the bride who posts here saying "My BM/MOH is being a miserable b!tch and a rotten friend and isn't devoting her every waking second to being excited about my pretty princess day which is taking place two years from now! Yes, she's always been this way, which I knew before I asked her, but she should change her personality 100% now that I'm getting married! It's all about meeeeee now! Why doesn't she see that?"

    Are you picking up what I'm putting down here? Hell, this whole argument is academic anyway since the bride won't return to explain what the relationship between her and the BM was like prior to any engagement or wedding planning.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : I feel like you selectively read OP's post. Yeah her friend doesn't need to be doing backflips over the wedding, but saying that you don't get the point of bridesmaids when a close friend asked you to be one is crappy. You can either say yes or no, but not giving a straight answer and belittling someone who is trying to honor you in their wedding is extremely rude. So is making snide comments about a friend's body and relationship. If I were the OP I would be pissed too.  Also your "put the wedding aside and be a friend" advice seems misplaced here. OP's friend is being a jerk. Doing things like telling someone her that her boobs will sag if she loses more weight is not the way you treat someone you care about- I don't care how badly things are going in your life. If I were OP I'd put some emotional distance between myself and this girl, not take her rude behavior as a sign that I should open myself up for abuse more.  OP, did she ever actually say yes or no to being a BM? From your post it doesn't sound like it. If I were you I'd say "Hey you never said one way or another if you'd like to be in my WP. Is this something you want to do?" If she says yes then keep her but don't expect anything. If she says no then problem solved. I would hold her to giving an answer though. 
    Posted by HoorayForSoup[/QUOTE]

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    </div><div>Sorry, I haven't responded! And thank you for your advice! She did say she didn't understand what the big deal was and that she would only chose the people she felt she "required" like her sister and her boyfriends sister. She truly seemed a bit upset that I asked her. I think you're right. I want to ask her does she care to be in my wedding party, and if not I'll totally be okay with it. I'd rather her not be a part of something she doesn't want. </div>
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_should-i-say-nevermind-to-her-being-my-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a1fd5484-ba0c-47f1-911d-f37f5b4a9618Post:6dfa2b7c-53d4-4cd5-8ba7-2aa0408ae158">Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : I had almost the same thing happen to me! Awesome friends for 4 years...she went bananas on me when I asked her to be a BM and told me- 'wow, everything's always about you isn't it?' She never really gave me a straight answer either. She told me that I would definitely need to lose weight so that I could look decent for the wedding and so many other hurtful things. As much as it hurt, I just stopped communicating with her little by little. My weddig's in 3 weeks and she sent me a few messages asking me the details. I just told her the month and the city...no more info. My mom brought up a good point- I don't want her negativity around and I shouldn't feel obligated to invite her to my wedding anyway. It's hard and feels strange/awkward, but in my case it had to happen. I hope that you don't have to go that far, but I wouldn't have her terrible, ungrateful attitude anywhere near our big day. HOpe that helps a little.
    Posted by carmello116[/QUOTE]

    <div>Thank you for sharing your experience! This sounds incredibly like her! It truly does hurt too.  I was also speaking with my mom and mother-in law and they do not think it's a good idea at all. Everyone keeps saying she is giving me the " evil eye" and I should not invite her. I'm just going to decide if I should invite her as a guest and not a BM. which would be my next move before not inviting her all together. Congrats on your wedding. Don't let it get you down <3 </div>
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_should-i-say-nevermind-to-her-being-my-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a1fd5484-ba0c-47f1-911d-f37f5b4a9618Post:6dfa2b7c-53d4-4cd5-8ba7-2aa0408ae158">Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : I had almost the same thing happen to me! Awesome friends for 4 years...she went bananas on me when I asked her to be a BM and told me- 'wow, everything's always about you isn't it?' She never really gave me a straight answer either. She told me that I would definitely need to lose weight so that I could look decent for the wedding and so many other hurtful things. As much as it hurt, I just stopped communicating with her little by little. My weddig's in 3 weeks and she sent me a few messages asking me the details. I just told her the month and the city...no more info. My mom brought up a good point- I don't want her negativity around and I shouldn't feel obligated to invite her to my wedding anyway. It's hard and feels strange/awkward, but in my case it had to happen. I hope that you don't have to go that far, but I wouldn't have her terrible, ungrateful attitude anywhere near our big day. HOpe that helps a little.
    Posted by carmello116[/QUOTE]

    <div>Thank you for sharing your experience! This sounds incredibly like her! It truly does hurt too.  I was also speaking with my mom and mother-in law and they do not think it's a good idea at all. Everyone keeps saying she is giving me the " evil eye" and I should not invite her. I'm just going to decide if I should invite her as a guest and not a BM. which would be my next move before not inviting her all together. Congrats on your wedding. Don't let it get you down <3 </div>
  • edited September 2012
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_should-i-say-nevermind-to-her-being-my-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a1fd5484-ba0c-47f1-911d-f37f5b4a9618Post:fd64edf7-1da6-49b3-9990-775dc14f35c7">Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : Where did I say it would give her a Get Out of Jail Free card? I didn't.  But if she was going through something like what you're going through, it might help to explain why she's not at her best right now. If she's having a crappy time at home, the bride could be a little more understanding of her behavior. Also, it totally matters if her friend has always been a snot or if it's new behavior. Again, no Get Out of Jail Free card, but many is the bride who posts here saying "My BM/MOH is being a miserable b!tch and a rotten friend and isn't devoting her every waking second to being excited about my pretty princess day which is taking place two years from now! Yes, she's always been this way, which I knew before I asked her, but she should change her personality 100% now that I'm getting married! It's all about meeeeee now! Why doesn't she see that?" Are you picking up what I'm putting down here? Hell, this whole argument is academic anyway since the bride won't return to explain what the relationship between her and the BM was like prior to any engagement or wedding planning.
    Posted by zitiqueen[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>My apologies!  The truth is she was like this before... only this is worse! But her actions were something I and other mutual friends would write off, " Oh C's, just being a brat!" or " You know she's not the fluffy kind." But its gotten worse since I've gotten engaged.  Here's the thing, I know we don't know each other but I have <strong>never</strong> been the type to think, " Oh it's my wedding, you should do what I want * stomps feet*." I'm not a child. Nor am I some Bridezilla you need to ' bring down to size'.  The fact is, if a long time friend cannot support a huge change in your life it hurts. Period. That is what friendship is about. It's not about constantly comparing your relationship to everyone elses - you'll always be miserable. My relationship with the BM prior to wedding planning was fabulous. We even have a trip planned to Hawaii in the spring.  ( which my BM have no part of since I have a WP and a Mom and Mommy in law who LOVE to and take great liberties with planning lol) . <strong>The role of  all my BM's is to honor them for being here as support over the years and the voice of reason in many cases and to make them a apart of my wedding because they are like family-</strong>  they are so much more than merely guest at my nuptials. Their friendship helped to shape and mold me into the woman  I am today ( the woman he fell in love with. So in many ways I owe our engagement to our family and friends, they shape u and mold us- catch what I'm throwing? ), and that's why I have bridesmaids. Not because of tradition. Not because I need someone to yell at or put down. And NOT because of whatever sociopathic reason you can concoct. I'm not looking for someone to kiss my hiney because it's my wedding day. No, I'm looking for someone to respect me because thats what I deserve. </div><div>
    </div><div>And for the record, asking someone to change their personality is impossible. People are exactly who they show you. But this 'person' is not the C I know. Someting deeper is here, but I'm not sure what hence the forum post. So please do not assume I am some Bridezilla who wants everyone to bend to her will. I'm sorry if that's an experience you had, but do not paint me with that same brush.  Thank you. </div><div>

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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_should-i-say-nevermind-to-her-being-my-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a1fd5484-ba0c-47f1-911d-f37f5b4a9618Post:67847c64-c17b-4a62-9a59-93e755ca9b8c">Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]When is your wedding?
    Posted by Girlie1030[/QUOTE]

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    </div><div>It's July 19, 2013 IF we can get the date settled for family flying in from overseas. </div>
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_should-i-say-nevermind-to-her-being-my-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a1fd5484-ba0c-47f1-911d-f37f5b4a9618Post:92049aec-3ad7-4c3d-a0af-6ccabb1a0990">Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]If you remove your friend from the BP, that will be a friendship ending move.  Do not do this.  Some people are just not wedding people and she seems to be one of those people.  Stop talking wedding things with her.  Stop talking about wanting to lose weight or tone up.  Just decline her offer for sweets or plates of pasta. Has your friend always acted this way?  If so, she is not going to change her normal ways just for your wedding.
    Posted by OliveOilsMom[/QUOTE]

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    </div><div>Hello! Thank you for your reply! Yes and no. She has always been the most "bratty" out of the bunch, but she's also been in  her relationship the longest. </div>
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_should-i-say-nevermind-to-her-being-my-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a1fd5484-ba0c-47f1-911d-f37f5b4a9618Post:280a2e33-0055-461c-adfd-86a6447c6c4d">Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : I feel like you selectively read OP's post. Yeah her friend doesn't need to be doing backflips over the wedding, but saying that you don't get the point of bridesmaids when a close friend asked you to be one is crappy. You can either say yes or no, but not giving a straight answer and belittling someone who is trying to honor you in their wedding is extremely rude. So is making snide comments about a friend's body and relationship. If I were the OP I would be pissed too.  Also your "put the wedding aside and be a friend" advice seems misplaced here. OP's friend is being a jerk. Doing things like telling someone her that her boobs will sag if she loses more weight is not the way you treat someone you care about- I don't care how badly things are going in your life. If I were OP I'd put some emotional distance between myself and this girl, not take her rude behavior as a sign that I should open myself up for abuse more.  OP, did she ever actually say yes or no to being a BM? From your post it doesn't sound like it. If I were you I'd say "Hey you never said one way or another if you'd like to be in my WP. Is this something you want to do?" If she says yes then keep her but don't expect anything. If she says no then problem solved. I would hold her to giving an answer though. 
    Posted by HoorayForSoup[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Thank you for your reply. Yes she did actually. She said, " It would be fine...yea. If I can."  I've put more emotional distance between she and I since the comments.  Because we have been friends for so long, she automatically thinks it's my fiance  who is causing the divide. I did tell her about her boob comment, and she said, " You know I'm just joking! I'm happy for you. I'm just not excitable about that type of stuff." 45 mins later... " So M, says he is saving up for something really important- I think it's a ring! Do you? Do you?" This was followed by us gushing for 2 hours about how her BF might propose and all that jazz. Pretty much, I gave her the reaction I was hoping for from her <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-frown.gif" border="0" alt="Frown" title="Frown" />.   I guess you have to hear her say it... it's like, " NO, but sure.... well maybe." instead of a definite answer. It's very confusing. 

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  • <font color="#000000">In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_should-i-say-nevermind-to-her-being-my-bridesmaid?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:a1fd5484-ba0c-47f1-911d-f37f5b4a9618Post:49c8393d-07cc-4ccf-bc84-92778e6304ea">Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: should I say nevermind to her being my bridesmaid? kinda long... : Thank you for sharing your experience! This sounds incredibly like her! It truly does hurt too.  I was also speaking with my mom and mother-in law and they do not think it's a good idea at all. <strong>Everyone keeps saying she is giving me the " evil eye" and I should not invite her.</strong> I'm just going to decide if I should invite her as a guest and not a BM. which would be my next move before not inviting her all together. Congrats on your wedding. Don't let it get you down <3 
    Posted by pattilicious08
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    <div>No worries about getting the evil eye--there are tons of super effective cures for that made up curse.</div>
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    Previously Alaynajuliana


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