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How to enforce "no kids" wedding?

I realize this topic comes up a lot, but I've been struggling with this for the last couple months, so I'd love some advice...We're planning on getting married September next year. It will be a very small wedding-parents and siblings only (and their spouses/guests), so somewhere between 20-35 adults.

We're planning an evening courthouse wedding.  I don't mind if there are kids at the wedding, but reception, no. I'd like the reception at a lounge-style restaurant with a Mad Men/50s/60s cocktail party theme. That being said, there will be drinking and maybe cigars. I would rather not have children.  I don't want babies there.

The thing is, both my brothers' wives will have 7-month olds next September (younger is having twins, older also has two girls, 6 and 10). So, if I say no babies, there's a high probability they won't come. That would mean my brothers won't come either. On FIs side, both of his older sisters have young children. So, that could potentially bring the guest list down to his 20-year-old brother and 15-year-old sister, and our parents (and spouses/guests). Sad.

How would I be able to pull off a no-kids reception? Do I just hope they'll get sitters and be excited for our day? Should I schedule a family-friendly dinner and then excuse kids afterwards for adult drinky fun time?  Should I plan some kind of offsite kids' party/sleepover after the wedding so the parents have a sitter and a night out (is it even my responsibility)?

I don't want to have to tone down my reception for kids...I want it to be exciting and a fun adult evening. I also don't want to sound so harsh, as we have a daughter as well (she'll be 7 when we get married)...but she'll be in the wedding, then going with a sitter, as the reception will be late. The wedding will be about our family; the reception will be a party. Please help! 

 

Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding?

  • find a sitter for the kids yourself and tell tell your siblings that you'd rather they get to enjoy your wedding to the fullest.
  • Which is more important to you, a no-kids wedding, or having your siblings there? Only you can answer this. If you and your FI want a no-kids wedding, fine, stand your ground. But make sure you don't invite the children to the ceremony, either, because that is rude.
  • I'm all for no kids, but in this situation having my siblings there would be more important.

    I also only invited my nieces and nephews to my wedding, so having them was important also.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_how-to-enforce-no-kids-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:a3964339-6bbd-45d5-b5a2-297a543d5e7dPost:253b59ee-c147-46a5-ab81-9cf44bdf7c8f">Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]find a sitter for the kids yourself and tell tell your siblings that you'd rather they get to enjoy your wedding to the fullest.
    Posted by violet355[/QUOTE]

    1) Some parents won't be comfortable leaving their kids with a person they don't know. Additionally, this is not the bride's responsibility.

    2) It's presumptuous to assume her siblings wouldn't enjoy themselves if their kids were there.

    OP - have you talked to your siblings about this? Do they know it's going to be a cocktail and cigar party? What are their thoughts? Perhaps they were already planning on finding a sitter (my brother and his wife aren't bringing my nieces because they want to make it a weekend getaway). Or, if they know what kind of reception it is, they may decide to do so. Personally, if I knew it was going to be that style of reception, I'd find a sitter, but not all parents are like that.

    If they want to bring the kids, even after they know what type of reception it is, you need to make a decision. To me, it would be more important to have my siblings there.

    I definitely wouldn't shuttle the kids off with a sitter after the ceremony or dinner. Leave that up to the parents. That might be a logistical nightmare.
  • We invited children of family and close friends.  We had a rock wedding with a live band and loads of booze.  My point is that we did not tone it down because of the kids.  Both of you need to decide what is important to you.  Not allowing immediate family members because of their age could cause potential problems in the family later.  I am talking about the older family members here.  The babies aren't going to know what is going on. If you say no one under 21, which I am guessing from you post, including family, then you need to be prepared for backlash and entire families not coming.  I am not telling you that you have to invite under 21, but there are consequences.
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  • Since it's a family only affair, why don't you talk to your siblings about this and see how they feel?  I'd do it closer to the date not now.  These kids aren't even born yet.  
  • That's part of the problem. On my side of the family, there are two giant elephants everyone's avoiding.  One, we believe my sister-in-law faked a pregnancy (she sent out a fake ultrasound. I know it's fake because I found the same one posted online. Very long story.). This is supposedly her fourth pregnancy. So, no one is saying anything about it...If she really is pregnant this time, great. But I don't know what to say to her as I don't believe anything she says. She's also a horrible type-A bossy b*tch and I can't stand her.
    Two, I haven't spoken to my dad in two years. I don't want him to know I'm getting married because he's not invited. The sister-in-law I do like has a big mouth and would probably tell my dad. So we're keeping it fairly secret until it's closer to the day. 
     
    Sorry to vent my drama.

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_how-to-enforce-no-kids-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:a3964339-6bbd-45d5-b5a2-297a543d5e7dPost:27d8455f-67db-434f-b2db-264b192cfd35">Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Since it's a family only affair, why don't you talk to your siblings about this and see how they feel?  I'd do it closer to the date not now.  These kids aren't even born yet.  
    Posted by MrsGandthebeag[/QUOTE]
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_how-to-enforce-no-kids-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:a3964339-6bbd-45d5-b5a2-297a543d5e7dPost:1cd9feb6-cce5-4e72-a27c-9174c327a413">Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]That's part of the problem. On my side of the family, there are two giant elephants everyone's avoiding.  One, we believe my sister-in-law faked a pregnancy (she sent out a fake ultrasound. I know it's fake because I found the same one posted online. Very long story.). This is supposedly her fourth pregnancy. So, no one is saying anything about it...If she really is pregnant this time, great. But I don't know what to say to her as I don't believe anything she says. She's also a horrible type-A bossy b*tch and I can't stand her. Two, I haven't spoken to my dad in two years. I don't want him to know I'm getting married because he's not invited. The sister-in-law I do like has a big mouth and would probably tell my dad. So we're keeping it fairly secret until it's closer to the day.    Sorry to vent my drama. In Response to Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding? :
    Posted by LauraJean317[/QUOTE]

    Even with the additional information, what PPs said still applies.  Either you a) alter your ideal wedding to include kids and guarantee that the people that are important to you attend or b) continue with you plans knowing that some people may choose not to attend.  Either was is fine, but it doesn't look like you're going to be able to have it both ways.

    And, please don't use the "alcohol is being served so it's not an appropriate place for a child" line.  It's incredibly patronizing to parents who are able to make decisions for themselves about what is and is not an appropriate environment for a child. 
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  • If I knew there were going to be cigars there, I wouldn't attend myself let alone bring a child.  How do the adults (even the non-parents) feel about cigars?   
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  • I'm not talking about the alcohol around the kids...it's the cigars around 3 newborns. It's a small venue-just a banquet room in a restaurant, so there's no safe smoke-free area.

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_how-to-enforce-no-kids-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:a3964339-6bbd-45d5-b5a2-297a543d5e7dPost:225cf6dd-b6d0-4709-8e99-39a883c7862d">Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding? : Even with the additional information, what PPs said still applies.  Either you a) alter your ideal wedding to include kids and guarantee that the people that are important to you attend or b) continue with you plans knowing that some people may choose not to attend.  Either was is fine, but it doesn't look like you're going to be able to have it both ways. And, please don't use the "alcohol is being served so it's not an appropriate place for a child" line.  It's incredibly patronizing to parents who are able to make decisions for themselves about what is and is not an appropriate environment for a child. 
    Posted by tidetravel[/QUOTE]
  • From what I know of my brothers and my FIs family, they occasionally bring cigars out on holidays..and some have poker night. So I think they'd like the idea.

    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_how-to-enforce-no-kids-wedding?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:a3964339-6bbd-45d5-b5a2-297a543d5e7dPost:385d05c9-d5b4-419f-a25a-7e1aeaa47f98">Re: How to enforce "no kids" wedding?</a>:
    [QUOTE]If I knew there were going to be cigars there, I wouldn't attend myself let alone bring a child.  How do the adults (even the non-parents) feel about cigars?   
    Posted by Avion22[/QUOTE]
  • People still showed up with their toddlers and babies at my wedding without them being invited or the parents even asking. My DH & I truly wanted a no kids wedding.

    We had a family-friendly rehearsal dinner and invited all the nieces and nephews which went over well, though.

    You'll have to suck it up on the day of if people show up with kids or don't make it due to no sitter.

    You have no obligation to find or pay for a babysitter for anyone.
  • This is so tough. We are having a child-free wedding (10/20/12 coming right up!) and somehow got off without any drama. But I know that's really really rare. I looked into it a lot and was very careful about how we did it so maybe that helped with the drama! Here is some of the best advice I received...

    1. Put it on your invite insert and also on the RSVP card. Our chosen wording was "Respectfully, the reception will be for adults only."
    2. CALL anyone with kids BEFORE they get the invite. Head it off with a nice call before they see the invite in the mail. 
    3. Offer to arrange a babysitter, but understand they might not want to leave their kids with someone they don't know. 
    4. Make sure you and your FI are on the same page and both stick to your guns and present a kind, but united front to anyone who asks about kids.

    Good luck!
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