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Semi-Related to Weddng stuff, need some advice.

This is a complicated scenario. For Mother's Day, we didn't plan anything because FFIL and his brother always sort it out for not only FMIL but also Grandma. This year, they decided (without actually making that clear to anyone) that it was now up to us. (FI & me, FI's two brothers.) So, nothing got planned because we didn't know it was suddenly our responsibility. FFIL got pissy when nothing got planned.

Also, a few weeks ago, FIL's mentioned that their pastor was getting married (tomorrow). They asked if we (again, FI & me, FI's two brothers), would be going. I asked if we were invited, and they said it was open to all members of the church. Now, I don't know the level of my FBIL's involvement in the church, but I do know that FI is a member, but has gone maybe 3 times. I have gone maybe twice, and I am not a member. From what I understand, when FFIL received his wedding invitation, he RSVP'd 6 people. (!!!)

I decided that for Father's Day, I was going to figure it out so we didn't have the same Mother's Day situation. So, knowing that his weekends are usually booked, I asked FI and FBILs if they would be free this Tuesday for dinner. They were free. The next step was to see if FFIL would be free. I wanted to have the plan all in place before talking directly to FFIL, so it would just be "Hey, we're going to this place at this time, can't wait to see you." Instead of "Hey, so when are you free? Oh, that's no good for me, when else?" and "I don't know, where do you wanna go?" So, I checked in with FMIlL. Do you think FFIl will be free Tuesday for dinner, and do you have any ideas as to where he'd like to go? She says that he wants us to go to this wedding.

Now, I don't think that a wedding is the appropriate place to have your Father's Day stuff. I don't think that a reception is the appropriate place to give your father his card and his coffee mug. I also don't think it's appropriate for me, as someone who would literally only be going for the free food/booze, to go to this stranger's wedding. It makes me feel rude. Plus also, weddings are really only interesting if you actually care about the couple. So I told her that I wasn't planning on going to the wedding, but we would still like to take him out for dinner, to give him his presents, would that work? Again, the only reason I'm asking FMIl instead of FFIL is so that he doesn't have to plan anything, I can just tell him what the plan is. Maybe that's my mistake. She tells me that I should be talking to him.

Then the next day she tells me that his feelings are hurt and that the wedding is simply the most convenient place to get together and that I need to be a grown up and defend my position and be prepared for it if he gets mad.

So, how in the wrong am I and on what counts, and should I just go to the wedding?
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Re: Semi-Related to Weddng stuff, need some advice.

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    I would have your FI be the one making Father's Day plans with his parents.  

    If your ILs are going to this wedding on Father's Day, and they want you to come, your FI knows the pastor, and your ILs RSVPed for you and the couple didn't object, I would go to the wedding.  I'm assuming you are ok with spending time with them tomorrow, so it's not like you would be doing something else, anyway.  Maybe it would be special for your FFIL to have his children all together at this event at their home church.  I don't think it's a problem that you don't know the couple--your FI does, and you are his sig other.  

    I agree that you should not give a gift to your FFIL at the wedding.  Depending on what time of day the wedding is, why don't you do a brunch before or dinner after, and then you can give the gift then.  Again, your FI should be the one dealing with his parents on this.  
  • Thanks for the advice. I definitely know that FI should be the one to deal with this kind of stuff, but I have to remind him like, 20 times to just call his parents. If I waited for him to plan things like this, they'd never happen. (And it'd be my fault, because I'm the female. In his family, female = social director/administrative assistant. FI's 32 year old cousin still has his mother book his dentis appointments.)

    FI was only planning to "stop by" the reception as he drove home from work tomorrow, so I don't know how much special family bonding time FFIL would be getting anyways.

    I guess it just comes down to a. I don't want to go to a stranger's wedding. b. I don't understand why FFIL *wants* me to go to a stranger's wedding. c. I think it's inappropriate to go to a wedding in order to celebrate Father's Day.
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  • If your FI cannot go to the wedding, then I wouldn't go.  Have your FI tell his parents--sit down with him while he calls them--and say that you are unable to attend the wedding but would love to see them for dinner/brunch/etc.  I would just propose a place/time and have a couple of backup dates if the first thing doesn't work.  Sometimes it's better to say, "can I take you out to X restaurant Sunday evening for Father's Day" rather than to leave it more open-ended.
  • Jessica, that was exactly what I was trying to do, was have a place and a time all figured out, rather than leaving it open ended.

    We'll be seeing them tonight for an event I'm running, we'll probably be able to find time to have a conversation.

    Stagemanager, why wouldn't you go to the wedding? How can I, in FMIL's words, be a grown up and "defend my position?"
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  • FWIW, I don't think that defending every little decision you make to your family has anything to do with being a grown up.  I would say you're not going because your FI has to work.  Don't make any more excuses, just leave it at that.
  • Honestly, I'd be nipping that whole "female does the planning" thing in the bud right now.  H's family is that way too, we are not.  If anyone says anything to me I tell them they need to talk to H because he does the planning with his family.  Unless you want to be making your own son's dentist appointments 32 years from now, you need to take care of this.

    As far as what's going on right now, "I'm sorry, I won't be able to attend the wedding, but Fi will be there.  I hope you have a wonderful father's day celebration."
  • Thank you for all the advice, ladies. I'm going to have my FI talk to his parents, and tell them that we won't be going to the wedding, but if they are free in the future, we'd like to take them out for dinner.

    It makes me really mad that FMIL tried to make me feel bad by telling me that FFIL's feelings were hurt. It's not like I was saying that they could count me out of any and all Father's Day activities, just that a wedding isn't one. I tried several times to get them to tell me when FI and I could take them out to dinner. :(
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_semi-related-to-weddng-stuff-need-some-advice?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:b32ce4f6-2685-4f8c-9f6a-225daab2009fPost:41152c83-ff8e-454e-b681-de6d4f796efc">Re: Semi-Related to Weddng stuff, need some advice.</a>:
    [QUOTE]FI's 32 year old cousin still has his mother book his dentis appointmentsPosted by TheBaney[/QUOTE]

    I'm sorry, but that's just flat out disturbing.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_semi-related-to-weddng-stuff-need-some-advice?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b32ce4f6-2685-4f8c-9f6a-225daab2009fPost:41152c83-ff8e-454e-b681-de6d4f796efc">Re: Semi-Related to Weddng stuff, need some advice.</a>:
    [QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. I definitely know that FI should be the one to deal with this kind of stuff, but I have to remind him like, 20 times to just call his parents. If I waited for him to plan things like this, they'd never happen. (And it'd be my fault, because I'm the female. In his family, female = social director/administrative assistant. FI's 32 year old cousin still has his mother book his dentis appointments.) FI was only planning to "stop by" the reception as he drove home from work tomorrow, so I don't know how much special family bonding time FFIL would be getting anyways. I guess it just comes down to a. I don't want to go to a stranger's wedding. b. I don't understand why FFIL *wants* me to go to a stranger's wedding. c. I think it's inappropriate to go to a wedding in order to celebrate Father's Day.
    Posted by TheBaney[/QUOTE]<div>
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    </div><div>Everyone's right. You shouldn't be the one planning out all these family stuff for your FI. He needs to take charge and hey, he's about to be a husband so he needs to understand that it's his responsibility to take care of this aspect of his family. If you set it up now already for him to plan things, you will be planning every little event all by yourself for the rest of your marriage.

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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_semi-related-to-weddng-stuff-need-some-advice?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:b32ce4f6-2685-4f8c-9f6a-225daab2009fPost:41152c83-ff8e-454e-b681-de6d4f796efc">Re: Semi-Related to Weddng stuff, need some advice.</a>:
    [QUOTE]Thanks for the advice. <strong>I definitely know that FI should be the one to deal with this kind of stuff, but I have to remind him like, 20 times to just call his parents. If I waited for him to plan things like this, they'd never happen. </strong>
    Posted by TheBaney[/QUOTE]

    Lol, I feel your pain. I have to practically set a fire under my FI's @ss and then remind him at least eight times that the burning smell is coming from his behind in order to get him to do anything. :-P

    FWIW I also agree with you-going to someone else's wedding to celebrate Father's Day is kind of strange, and saying that you "need to grow up" is just confusing. Frankly, I sometimes think that people, as they get older, discover that the concept of  "childishness" can be applied to any behavior performed by anyone more than a few years younger than them that they find objectionable or inconvenient for any reason whatsoever and thereby assign their totally personal, not-based-on-anything-objective preferences a normative value. In fact, I think trying to call you childish for disagreeing is, rather, them trying to treat you like a child and hoping you'll obey like one. But I am just a random person on the internet and have never met them, so yeah, large grain of salt added. Meh. Sounds sticky anyway...best of luck to ya! And if they try to give you a stenographer's notebook or professional scheduling software for your birthday (that just-so-happens to be preloaded with the data of every male member of the family), just say no. ;-)
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