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"Maybe" RSVPs - Help!

So this is a bit of a vent, sorry. Our RSVPs were due back on 9/8 - over a week ago, and we're still waiting to hear from some guests. We've contacted everyone we hadn't gotten a response from, and most of them apologized and answered us. But I have a couple of extended family members who apparently don't believe that deadlines apply to them. We have asked them if they're coming, and they've just said they're thinking about it, pretty much. My aunt says she's looking for a cheap enough flight out here but really wants to come, and my uncle (different family) just said he's undecided.

I'm going to call the uncle today and hopefully he will have decided by now, but I'm wondering if there's anything I can do about my aunt. We asked her to let us know by this weekend, and she replied with a sad story about why she can't afford the tickets but how much she wants to come. So, I sent her flight prices that I found, and told her that in my experience she probably won't find anything cheaper (which I think is true, unless maybe you catch some last-minute sale?). The flights were under $200, so I hoped that between that and my telling her it wouldn't get cheaper, she would make a decision based on that, but she just responded that she would keep checking. That was last night, so I presume I'm not getting an answer by this weekend... She tried to excuse it at one point by saying we don't have to feed her if she does come, but I'm not going to do that.

Is there anything I can do about this? I just want to call her up and tell her she's being rude, but something tells me I would regret that. :) Should I just seat her somewhere and put her in the guest count and forget it? Is this piece of my sanity worth that $25 dinner going uneaten? Can I just not count her since there should be more than enough food even if she does come? Does anyone with a magical way with words have a suggestion of something I can say to her?

Wow, sorry again for the length.

Re: "Maybe" RSVPs - Help!

  • When do you have to have the guest count in ?







    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • "Hi Aunt.  I really hope that you can make it.   I will need a firm answer by X date.   If you cant come out to the wedding, let's make plans to get together after the event."

    She's being rude and owes you an answer.  
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    [QUOTE]When do you have to have the guest count in ?
    Posted by lyndausvi[/QUOTE]

    <div>Next Saturday</div>
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    [QUOTE]"Hi Aunt.  I really hope that you can make it.   I will need a firm answer by X date.   If you cant come out to the wedding, let's make plans to get together after the event." She's being rude and owes you an answer.  
    Posted by banana468[/QUOTE]

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    </div><div>That.  Use your firm date as Sept 19 (Wednesday).</div>






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
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    [QUOTE]"Hi Aunt.  I really hope that you can make it.   I will need a firm answer by X date.   If you cant come out to the wedding, let's make plans to get together after the event." She's being rude and owes you an answer.  
    Posted by banana468[/QUOTE]

    <div>Thanks! I guess I'm kind of afraid to give an ultimatum... This will be a (not-so-) fun exercise in assertiveness.</div>
  • It's not fun but she's yanking you around and it may cost.

    On the rare chance that she can get a flight at the last minute, you can probably squeeze her in but be firm for now.   You're not seating a maybe.
  • Thanks for your quick answers! Can/should I do anything to pre-empt another "just don't feed me" excuse? Last time, I sort of just said of course you should eat if you do make it. Should I be more clear that we just won't be having that, or cross that bridge if she makes me?
  • edited September 2012
    Do you think she's waiting to see whether you will offer to pay for her plane ticket and accommodations? (I'm not saying that this is okay for her to do, just suggesting that maybe this is why she won't give a definite answer.)
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    [QUOTE]Do you think she's waiting to see whether you will offer to pay for her plane ticket and accommodations? (I'm not saying that this is okay for her to do, just suggesting that maybe this is why she won't give a definite answer.)
    Posted by PJSPJS[/QUOTE]

    <div>Wow, that never would have occurred to me. She knows we're both students (i.e. not exactly swimming in money), so I doubt it. </div>
  • "I can't feed you if you're not there. I will miss you if you can't be there but I need a firm answer. "
  • "We'll need a firm yes or no by Sept. 19th, we will miss you very much and hope to see you some other time."  Ball's then in her court and her lack of manners is on her.

    FWIW, we had about 30ish people who responded yes but didn't show for DD's wedding last weekend. We also had maybe 5 or 6 who didn't respond (actually a couple who were not even INVITED, but that's a different story) show up.  We had plenty of room and food. All in all, our 'dear friends and relatives' wasted about a grand of our cash. Oh well. Goes with the territory. You just can't get all wigged out about it even though it's completely maddening.
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  • Honestly?  With the aunt I'd just put her down as a no and if she manages to make it (doubtful since you're 2 weeks away) call the venue and add a person.  It just doesn't seem worth the hassle and since I assume that you'd be happy to have her if somehow she managed to get a ticket I would just leave it at "we hope you can come!" and be done with it.
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    [QUOTE]Thanks for your quick answers! Can/should I do anything to pre-empt another "just don't feed me" excuse? Last time, I sort of just said of course you should eat if you do make it. Should I be more clear that we just won't be having that, or cross that bridge if she makes me?
    Posted by Apollo11235[/QUOTE]

    If she says that, tell her that your venue also needs to know how many chairs and tables they need.

    If she continues to be flaky and refuses to give you a firm answer, put her down as a no.  After your "final numbers" date, you can always add people, but you can't take them off.  So adding one or two shouldn't be a big deal.  Plus, caterers always count on there being a few people that weren't accounted for.

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    [QUOTE]Honestly?  With the aunt I'd just put her down as a no and if she manages to make it (doubtful since you're 2 weeks away) call the venue and add a person.  It just doesn't seem worth the hassle and since I assume that you'd be happy to have her if somehow she managed to get a ticket I would just leave it at "we hope you can come!" and be done with it.
    Posted by DramaGeek[/QUOTE]

    <div>Yes.  I would just put the aunt down as a NO.  Anyone who sounds that iffy is very unlikely to make it.  </div>
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    [QUOTE]"We'll need a firm yes or no by Sept. 19th, we will miss you very much and hope to see you some other time."  Ball's then in her court and her lack of manners is on her. FWIW, we had about<strong> 30ish people who responded yes but didn't show for DD's weddin</strong>g last weekend. We also had maybe 5 or 6 who didn't respond (actually a couple who were not even INVITED, but that's a different story) show up.  We had plenty of room and food. All in all, our 'dear friends and relatives<strong>' wasted about a grand of our cash. </strong>Oh well. Goes with the territory. You just can't get all wigged out about it even though it's completely maddening.
    Posted by willywally5[/QUOTE]

    <div>Wow, you're pretty mellow to not be pissed about that.  We had a small handful of people who did that and I was over it, but 30 no shows is a lot and a thousand bucks is almost half a vacation to me.</div>
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  • I would mark her down as a "no" and if she shows up, you are probably fine anyway. Most venues make a few extra meals cuz they know stuff happens like that. You might also have a no-show, so it might just balance out anyway.....

    Try not to stress too much...
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: "Maybe" RSVPs - Help! : Wow, you're pretty mellow to not be pissed about that.  We had a small handful of people who did that and I was over it, but 30 no shows is a lot and a thousand bucks is almost half a vacation to me.
    Posted by tmwishful[/QUOTE]

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    </div><div>Well, it DOES piss me off. But really, what can I do about it? Not like I'm going to send them a bill. You can bet I will remember it next time we have a big shingdig, though. Because, yes, a grand is a lot of money. I just have to look at it as part of the bill for the whole shebang, which was amazing and exactly what DD and SIL wanted. </div>
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  • It sounds like she's really trying to make it to your wedding. I mean, most people would check airline prices once, see how expensive it is and decline. But, it must mean a lot to her to be checking constantly trying to see if they get low enough for her to afford, so I wouldn't be too pressuring with her.

    If it were her and her husband and four kids, then yeah, I'd probably be a little more demanding on an answer, but if it's ONE person it's not going to be that much of a hassle to either add her to your final count and just have an extra meal if she doesn't make it or add her on if she gives you an answer after next Saturday.

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  • In my experience, "Maybe" usually is a nice way of saying "no." 

    If you only have only 2 people who are maybes, just count them as yes to be on the safe side.  For the Aunt, sounds like she really wants to be there, but is procrastinating on the flight and the longer she waits the more expensive its going to be.  Check with your caterer because I have to get RSVPs by 10 days before, but the final cost will only reflect the actual amount served ( or minimum per plate, whichever is greater)

    The uncle, I say nix him. if he's undecided at this point, he obviously hasnt enough interest in going to make up his mind.
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