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FSIL scheduling wedding right after ours

My fiance and I dated for a year and a half before getting engaged in June. The plan is to get married in May 2012, then at the end of the month we'll be moving about 1200 miles away for a better job market in his line of work. We announced our plan to move to our family and friends about two months before we got engaged, and everyone reacted pretty positively.

My fiance's sister has been dating her boyfriend for about five years. They got engaged in early November. They've decided to get married a month after our wedding (two weeks after we move) in a town about an hour and a half away from where we all live. The rationale is that they are both teachers, so they have to get married in the summer, and she wants an outdoor wedding and is deathly allergic to bees. They are to be married in a tourist town where there are a lot of flowers and food present.

If we went to the wedding, it would be a huge expense for us after just having moved. Our wedding will be small (less than 60 people) and we're paying for all but about $750.

My fiance is not close to his sister, but he talked to her about our reservations, and she said that it doesn't matter to her if we come to her wedding or not, and if we choose not to, there won't be any hard feelings. This is a total pile of poop. She is the type of person who routinely brings up things that happened to her as a little kid.

To top it off, we were going to ask my fiance's aunt to officiate the wedding. We wanted to ask her in person and she lives several hours away, so we were going to ask her over the holidays. We had told my fiance's family back in July that we were going to ask her. On Christmas Eve, his sister announced that she had called the aunt on the phone a week or two before and asked her to perform her wedding. We've since found a friend who is looking forward to performing our ceremony, but I'm paranoid now that anything I plan about our wedding that she likes is going to end up at hers.

His parents don't see an issue with any of this- in fact, they have commented that she is more deserving of a wedding because she dated her fiance for a longer period than we dated before we got engaged. They insist that we quit our jobs when our apartment lease runs out and move in with them (they live about an hour and a half away) for the two weeks before her wedding. They don't have an extra room, so we'd be crashing on the couches in their living room, with all of our stuff in their driveway.

Normally I go to my mother for advice, but she thinks we should just cancel our venue and have a double wedding. Is this all as ridiculous as I think it is? How do I respectfully voice my disagreement without sounding like a bridezilla?

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    So, is the issue that you don't want to travel back after moving to attend her wedding or is the issue that you are pissed that she is getting married so close to you? Or is it both?

    ETA: And WTF does her allergy to bees have to do with anything. That part made you sound really judgy and juvenile.
  • It sounds like "respecful disagreement" is going to get you nowhere. No one agrees with you anyway, so just let it go because if you don't, you'll be the one that ends up looking bad. Additionally, the weddings are a month apart, and it sounds like they are both local and you two will be the only ones who are really inconvenienced. I get that it's annoying, but there is really nothing you can do. 

    Don't share wedding information with the sister if you are concerned. I don't understand why you're upset about the officiant, though. It's HER aunt, and why couldn't she marry you both? It seems a little petty to be upset she asked her own aunt to marry her. 

    There's no way would I agree to quit my job and move in with my in-laws or have a double wedding, though. On those two things I would stand my ground. And ignore your mother in law's comments about the length of time you've been dating - that's ridiculous and it's not a contest. In that case I guess FI and I didn't deserve a wedding, because we'd only been together 6 months when we got engaged. 
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  • It's up to his FSIL when she gets married--your wedding/move date doesn't dictate when they can or should get married.  If they were to choose a date that accomodates everyone, they'd never find a date.  I understand why you might be upset, but when they have their wedding is their business.  (Your mom's suggestion of a double wedding is ridiculous though).

    Can I ask if your FI will have a job in the town you are moving to beforehand or if you're moving and then hoping to find employment?  Because this far out, it's difficult to plan, and travelling back for their wedding might not even be an issue.  Plan to be flexible and be ready to extend your lease for a month (most places will allow you to do this with 30 or 60 days notice).  Besides, what if they wanted to get married later in the summer?  Would you still be in the same situation of not being able to travel back?  If your FI is just starting a new job, it might not be possible to get time off anyways--so suggesting that they postpone until the next summer because you two can't travel is pretty silly.
  • I understand that it will be difficult for you to travel to your FSIL's wedding so soon after you move, but it is up to you and your FI whether or not you go.

    A month after yours sounds fine.  An hour and a half's travel isn't too much for family members to want to choose one wedding (at least, I don't think it is).  She is well within reason to have a wedding at that time.  It is her choice when to have her wedding, and it is your choice when to have your own wedding.  (Along with your future grooms, of course.)

    I don't see an issue here.  In terms of the aunt, she can still perform the wedding.  Has word gotten to her that you were going to ask and are not?  Because that could hurt her feelings.  Officiants do many weddings over the course of a summer, and are able to make sure each ceremony is special and particular to that couple.

    Your ILs shouldn't have said that she is "more deserving" of a wedding, and that was out of line.  They have no say in your and your FI's future decisions, or the one about when to move.  You both decide that together.

    If you don't want a double wedding, you definitely don't need to have one.


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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_fsil-scheduling-wedding-right-after?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:d67ed129-6397-4682-8d79-f22e91b2ef33Post:809da2e7-d3e9-4022-b2ba-f5a50d49d5d2">FSIL scheduling wedding right after ours</a>:
    [QUOTE]My fiance and I dated for a year and a half before getting engaged in June. The plan is to get married in May 2012, then at the end of the month we'll be moving about 1200 miles away for a better job market in his line of work. <strong> Do you have jobs lined up in your new location with start dates in May or is that just an arbitrary move date? </strong> We announced our plan to move to our family and friends about two months before we got engaged, and everyone reacted pretty positively. My fiance's sister has been dating her boyfriend for about five years. They got engaged in early November. They've decided to get married a month after our wedding (two weeks after we move) in a town about an hour and a half away from where we all live. The rationale is that they are both teachers, so they have to get married in the summer, and she wants an outdoor wedding and is deathly allergic to bees. They are to be married in a tourist town where there are a lot of flowers and food present. If we went to the wedding, it would be a huge expense for us after just having moved. Our wedding will be small (less than 60 people) and we're paying for all but about $750. My fiance is not close to his sister, but he talked to her about our reservations, and she said that it doesn't matter to her if we come to her wedding or not, and if we choose not to, there won't be any hard feelings. This is a total pile of poop. She is the type of person who routinely brings up things that happened to her as a little kid. To top it off, we were going to ask my fiance's aunt to officiate the wedding. We wanted to ask her in person and she lives several hours away, so we were going to ask her over the holidays. We had told my fiance's family back in July that we were going to ask her. On Christmas Eve, his sister announced that she had called the aunt on the phone a week or two before and asked her to perform her wedding. We've since found a friend who is looking forward to performing our ceremony, <strong>Why can't your FI's aunt perform both ceremonies?  </strong> but I'm paranoid now that anything I plan about our wedding that she likes is going to end up at hers. His parents don't see an issue with any of this- in fact, they have commented that she is more deserving of a wedding because she dated her fiance for a longer period than we dated before we got engaged. <strong>This is a BS statement.</strong> They insist that we quit our jobs when our apartment lease runs out and move in with them (they live about an hour and a half away) for the two weeks before her wedding. <strong>If this is an example of their good advice I would never every listen to them.  </strong>They don't have an extra room, so we'd be crashing on the couches in their living room, with all of our stuff in their driveway. Normally I go to my mother for advice, but she thinks we should just cancel our venue and have a double wedding. <strong>I hope she is joking.  </strong>Is this all as ridiculous as I think it is? How do I respectfully voice my disagreement without sounding like a bridezilla?
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    <div>Ask your apartment manager if you can extend your lease by a month and stay there and work longer.   Worst case you have a little more money saved before you move.</div><div>
    </div><div>And my unsolicited advice... I get wanting to move... but for the love of God, don't move until at least ONE of you has a job lined up there with a firm start date.  It is not as easy to get new jobs as you might think, better job market or not.  My H moved to CO in October, and I'm still in Ohio because I don't have a job yet out there.  And I've sent a LOT of applications.  It would have been great if we could have both moved at the same time, but financially we would have been screwed without my income for the past 3 months if I'd quit my job to move with him.  Being apart kind of sucks, but racking up debt is a horrible way to start a marriage so don't put that burden on yourselves from the get go.</div>
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    [QUOTE]My fiance and I dated for a year and a half before getting engaged in June. The plan is to get married in May 2012, then at the end of the month we'll be moving about 1200 miles away for a better job market in his line of work. We announced our plan to move to our family and friends about two months before we got engaged, and everyone reacted pretty positively. My fiance's sister has been dating her boyfriend for about five years. They got engaged in early November. They've decided to get married a month after our wedding (two weeks after we move) in a town about an hour and a half away from where we all live. The rationale is that they are both teachers, so they have to get married in the summer, and she wants an outdoor wedding and is deathly allergic to bees. They are to be married in a tourist town where there are a lot of flowers and food present. If we went to the wedding, it would be a huge expense for us after just having moved. Our wedding will be small (less than 60 people) and we're paying for all but about $750. My fiance is not close to his sister, but he talked to her about our reservations, and she said that it doesn't matter to her if we come to her wedding or not, and if we choose not to, there won't be any hard feelings. This is a total pile of poop. She is the type of person who routinely brings up things that happened to her as a little kid. To top it off, we were going to ask my fiance's aunt to officiate the wedding. We wanted to ask her in person and she lives several hours away, so we were going to ask her over the holidays. We had told my fiance's family back in July that we were going to ask her. On Christmas Eve, his sister announced that she had called the aunt on the phone a week or two before and asked her to perform her wedding. We've since found a friend who is looking forward to performing our ceremony, but I'm paranoid now that anything I plan about our wedding that she likes is going to end up at hers. His parents don't see an issue with any of this- in fact, they have commented that she is more deserving of a wedding because she dated her fiance for a longer period than we dated before we got engaged. <strong>They insist that we quit our jobs when our apartment lease runs out and move in with them (they live about an hour and a half away) for the two weeks before her wedding. </strong>They don't have an extra room, so we'd be crashing on the couches in their living room, with all of our stuff in their driveway. Normally<strong> I go to my mother for advice, but she thinks we should just cancel our venue and have a double wedding.</strong> Is this all as ridiculous as I think it is? How do I respectfully voice my disagreement without sounding like a bridezilla?
    Posted by fonduewho[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>That actually sounds like a perfect solution <em>if </em>your actual gripe is the expense of traveling back for the wedding.  If y'all are moving for a better job market and have nothing already lined up in the new town I see no reason why you should incur the additional expenses paying rent those two weeks and traveling back and forth if you can just crash with the in laws for a few weeks. </div><div>
    </div><div>I'm with you on not wanting the double wedding thing.  You should get your own day. Which you will. And your FSIL gets her day a month later.   Just be happy for them and focus on your own wedding plans. </div><div>
    </div><div>And seriously, consider taking up your in laws on their offer. It's pretty generous and awesome actually.</div><div>

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  • Well, at one point I had TWO SISTERS that were getting married 3 WEEKS apart from each other.  Why they did that I don't know, but I live 1500 miles away.  I was going to fly out twice, and that involved hotels both times, buy bridesmaid dresses and gifts.  I guess you just kind of do it for family.

    Maybe only he can fly back for the sister's wedding and not you (if it's an expense thing)?

    Definitely do not have a double wedding!  That is not going to be fun!

    If you do not share details with your wedding to her, how could they both be similar? 

    In ths case, I would just go on planning your own wedding/life in your own way, and not get too worried about what FSIL is going to do this summer.  She might move her too, after all the date is not set until she buys her venue.
  • Seriously?  You each get a day.  I'm sorry about the moving situation, I'm sure that sucks, but you each get one day.  And scheduling her wedding right after yours because she and her FI are both teachers is reasonable.  My own SIL is a teacher and she had to schedule her wedding around the school year because her bosses wouldn't give her any time off.

    Your whole OP sounds really judgy of your FSIL.  The part about the officiant really seems silly.  You could have had the same officiant and had a totally different wedding.  TBH it just sounds like you dislike your FSIL and want to be judgy about her.  I agree with you that a double wedding is ridiculous and you both should have your own day, but it seems here that you're less concerned about the logistics and more concerned with picking apart your FSIL and her motives.
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  • I ditto everyone.  Especially Geaux.

    Get over the wedding thing.  Move if you have a job lined up.  Don't move if you don't.  If you have moved, travel back for the wedding, or don't.  Whatever - she's made it clear she doesn't care.  Don't move into your ILs, and ignore what they (and your mom) are saying right now.  And drop some of the pettiness.
  • PS - I agree that if you're going to be out of work anyway, you're future in laws offer to stay with them for 2 weeks is very generous.  If you want to go to the wedding without incurring travel costs I'd start working on staying where you are for another 2 weeks or a month and just keep working if you both already have jobs there.
  • While your parents and future inlaws are giving you bad advice, it is perfectly in order for your FSIL to have her wedding one month after yours. Being a teacher is not some BS excuse, it is a good reason to have a summer wedding. They have no more right to be engaged than you do, but no less right either. Could it be you are slightly annoyed that she might steal the spotlight?

    Apart from the fact that she might throw a fit if you would not attend, I guess that your FI would not want to miss his sister's wedding. Mine wouldn't miss such an event for the world.

    Would it be possible to extend your rent and your jobs for a few more weeks? After the wedding, you might need some time to relax anyway. Your FI can take his time to look for job offers. I don't know the details about your situation, but that doesn't sound like such a bad deal.
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  • What exactly is the problem? If you can't afford to go then don't go. If you can afford it then go. Easy peasy. If someone is going to hold a grudge because you can't swing getting married, moving and then traveling all within a month or so then let them. That being said I would move heaven and earth to be at anything major for my sibling- what does your FI think? It sounds more like you are judging her for the timing of her wedding that actually asking for solutions to a problem. 
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  • I'd not consider a double wedding. I'd not be enthusiastic about living with inlaws, but it's only 2 weeks and you'll be moving hours away afterward... If you don't go to her wedding, you've got a lifetime to hear her bring it up. I'd find a way to tough it out and go. Do I sense an air of competition with wedding planning? I'm not judging you. It seems others have harbored & encouraged it by making comparisons. I'd just try super hard to bypass a lot of the BS lest you look like the turd.
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  • My stepdad was the officiant at our wedding, and my great-uncle did a blanket ceremony. A few months later, my uncle and his FI declared they were doing the same thing. And you know what? I'm thrilled for them. I think it's awesome that my stepdad gets to marry two people in his family, and be there for us in such a way. Why is it such a big deal for your aunt to do both weddings? It should be meaningful for you both that she gets to marry you.

    As for the job thing, I agree not to move until one of you actually has one. It's way too risky, especially moving so far from your family where if you really needed help, you'd be screwed.

    And what does the bee thing have to do with anything? Because she wants flowers at a summer wedding? That's her risk, and if she's willing to take it, then so be it.
  • I think the bee thing is meant to be an "example" of FSILs bad judgment. Like not ONLY is she daring to get married right after us but she also doesn't realize that there will be BEES! The whole plan sucks!!!
  • I, too, want the OP to come back and explain the bee thing.
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  • I think what OP meant was that June isn't bee season where they live and that's why FSIL can't get married in July or August.
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  • Breathe.  Moving and getting married are both stressful, but some of this is not as big a deal as you think.

    A double wedding could leave both of you feeling imposed on.

    "Right" to be engaged isn't measured that way.  Ignore her.

    It's no surprise that a pair of siblings would both think of asking the same aunt to officiate.  f you're worried about her copying you, don't give her any details.  but the aunt thing sounds less like copying and more like the obvious choice.  Go ahead and ask her anyway.

    As for the move/fincances: how much is official/set in stone yet?  If no lease has been signed in your new city, and no official job offer extended, can you afford to stay in a residence hotel for the extra time?   Prices around here compare favorably to many apartment rental fees, I'm told.  I agree, with no guest room, two weeks of sleeping on the couch is not ideal, but I'd consider it - unless it actually did involve quitting jobs.  One month rental of a storage facility isn't that expensive: it might even cost less than the utilities and rent you'd be saving on.  Or, as PPs said, ask your apartment manager if you can extend the lease by one month.  If you have a job offer, but he does not, could he stay at home for his sister's wedding, and you go ahead with the move as planned?   Only if he has a new job offer that is not flexible about start dates or time off is this completely unworkable.  Is there anything that makes the exact date of your move critical timing?  It sounds like your choice of date was somewhat arbitrary, rather than tied to hard logistics, which should make it flexible.  It may take some creativity to work around this, but it can probably be done, once you're in the right frame of mind.

    Without disparaging your own rights, FSIL is entitled to a wedding too.  After a five year courtship, I really can't begrudge her a short engagement.  Strictly speaking, she's not required to give you any time between weddings, but one month is generally considered a courteous space.  The reasons don't really matter, beyond that neither of you has the right to deny the other her day.
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  • Eh, I don't think that a cross-country move without jobs is the worst thing in the world, as long as you have a backup plan. DH and I did that, with the understanding that we'd take whatever crappy jobs we could find in order to make ends meet, and that if it didn't work in 6 months, we'd move back. It's not for everybody, but I don't think it's a universal no-no, either.
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    [QUOTE]Eh, I don't think that a cross-country move without jobs is the worst thing in the world, as long as you have a backup plan. DH and I did that, with the understanding that we'd take whatever crappy jobs we could find in order to make ends meet, and that if it didn't work in 6 months, we'd move back. It's not for everybody, but I don't think it's a universal no-no, either.
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    <div>I don't either.  Says the girl who quit her job to move to the islands without anything lined up.</div><div>
    </div><div>I knew about my friend's wedding in late Sept. I didn't have a job lined up  so I just delayed my leaving until after the wedding.  I moved 4 days after the wedding.   My lease was up before the wedding so I just lived with some friends in between.  My parents were not local or I would have moved in with them short term.</div><div>
    </div><div>So I guess what I'm saying is I really do not see this as a huge problem.  I would just delay the move by a month.  Not really a big deal if you do not have jobs lined up anyway.  If you have to live with the in-laws in the mean time, so be it.  Again I do not think it's big deal.</div><div>
    </div><div>As far as the aunt, let it go.  You have no more right to the aunt than she does.  Also, you could have very easily been the first to asked her, but you choose to wait. </div><div>
    </div><div>Question?  When do you think is a good time for her to get married?   IMO delaying your move by a month is a much better option than having to return for a sibling wedding 6-12 months after you move.  Money, time off, all get harder when you start a new job and move.</div><div>
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  • Hey everyone, thank for the responses. It's been difficult to be able to step out of the situation and look at it objectively.

    My FI has a job lined up in the place where we're moving. For the last seven or eight years he's spent two months per year there, and the gig is easily expandable to year-round. (Part of why we're moving is because he tried to bring the service here, but there were no takers.) We have a large network of good people there and I'm nervous like anyone would be about moving, but I'm confident that I won't be unemployed for more than a month or two.

    I sort of know my FSIL. We've spent some time in a group situation (holidays, going out to dinner with the parents, etc.) but I've never had more than ten minutes at a time of one-on-one time with her or her FI. My FI and his sister don't get along at all. As I was starting to write this, I had a talk with my FI about how I would like to know his sister and her fiance better, and he commented that it had never occurred to him that I would want to spend more time with them. Maybe we'll go out more often? I don't know.

    As for being petty about the date- I honestly never thought of it that way. If I were in a situation where my own sister was getting married and then I got engaged, I would wait a year between ceremonies. If I had to get married right away for insurance reasons or what-have-you, I'd do it at the courthouse and have a vow renewal the next year. I'm uncomfortable with forcing out-of-town family to choose which wedding to attend. One of their cousins has already said she can't go to both, and one of the grandmothers has told us she is not sure if she can attend both of them.
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