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Now is as good a time as any...

So these last 2 weeks life has taken me in a direction that I have never expected.  Mom had her 4th and hopefully final surgery 2 weeks ago.  DH lost his job yesterday and in lifes every f*cking irony on April 24th he will be undergoing major surgery and beginning his own health battle, a year to the day when my mom began hers.  Since I can’t deal with my real life right now I’ve come back to the place that has been a place of refuge for the last 3 years.  I know it’s not fair of me just to come back and b!tch so I’ve written you ladies a letter.  Here it goes.


Hi Ladies,

I’m going to try to be as eloquent as I can but you know I’m a chemistry teacher, not an English one.  Two weeks ago I allowed myself to listen with what we’ll call “bad advice” and allowed it to cloud my normally good judgment.  I truly though and still believe that I was doing my job using my understanding of the TOS as it was.  I knew it was going to make many people unhappy but I was never prepared for the cruelty that it caused.  For this reason I have stayed away to process instead of creating another emotional post.  I have purposefully waited until the new TOS was posted before reposting but as you can see that too has its problems.  It’s kinda hard to do the right thing when the people you look to don’t have all the answers themselves.  I’m not knocking KI or Jackie, as they have been great lately, but as they themselves have admitted they don’t have all of the answers.


For those of you that were able to remain rational and calm through all I this I truly appreciate it.  It has not gone unnoticed.  For those of you that were not all I can say it this.  We have all collectively hit rock bottom and the only way to go it up.  I will continue to be around as mod and as a poster.  Feel free to chat it up with me, ignore me or even leave CC.  It’s up to you how you choose to move forward.  Whatever you decide at least we all have a better understanding of what the rules are.


I hope I have cleared some things up for you.  If not I’m sorry.  I will not be publicly speaking about it anymore.  I am choosing to move forward in a positive way.  If you have a question feel to PM me otherwise today is a new day.  Let’s treat it as such.

 
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  • Praying for your family Hoboken!  That is a lot to deal with at once.  Hugs
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  • I'm sorry you're going through this. I wanted to say welcome back and i'm glad you're choosing to move forward. 
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  • [QUOTE]And I'd also like to know where my post went, because I sure as hell didn't delete it. Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]
    I would suggest moving on and dropping the topic of the poll, Stage, because Hoboken gave you an answer, and to keep rehashing your question puts you right into the "loves rehashing old sh!t" category with me. You and Linger have all ready made it very clear that beating a dead horse isn't a good thing. So take your own advice to pick up the pieces and move on, or take your concerns up in a private conversation with KJ, KI and Hoboken.

    Welcome back, Hoboken. I am glad you're still mod of CC.
  • HobokensFuryHobokensFury member
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    edited April 2013
    Just to clear things up I did not delete Stage's comment. I was wondering myself where it went. Either one of TK gods deleted it, it got reported multiple times and got auto deleted as a result or there is a glitch.
     
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  • In Response to Re:Now is as good a time as any...:[QUOTE]And I'd also like to know where my post went, because I sure as hell didn't delete it. Posted by StageManager14
    I would suggest moving on and dropping the topic of the poll, Stage, because Hoboken gave you an answer, and to keep rehashing your question puts you right into the "loves rehashing old sh!t" category with me. You and Linger have all ready made it very clear that beating a dead horse isn't a good thing. So take your own advice to pick up the pieces and move on, or take your concerns up in a private conversation with KJ, KI and Hoboken.

    Welcome back, Hoboken. I am glad you're still mod of CC. Posted by formerlyCooper[/QUOTE]

    I think Stage has every right to ask where her post in this thread went. It has nothing to do with the poll, so either you're confused or you quoted the wrong thing.

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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:9ba85453-53fa-45be-b2c4-098fbbef0a7e">Re:Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Now is as good a time as any...:

    I think Stage has every right to ask where her post in this thread went. It has nothing to do with the poll, so either you're confused or you quoted the wrong thing.
    Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]



    I posted above. All I can say it it wasn't me. It disappeared after I went to bed last night.
     
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  • Welcome back, Hoboken. I hope everything works out for your family. 
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  • Welcome back and I'm really sorry to hear about your family issues.  T&Ps to everyone.  
  • I certainly didn't delete Stage's post and I'm pretty sure Jackie didn't either.  Glad you're back Hoboken.
  • Looks like you've got some reporters on your hands, Stage.

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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:659c9bd3-6f0f-4d2f-94c2-4ce84ca2c0f0">Re: Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Now is as good a time as any... : And this is why simply reporting posts should not be enough to have them removed.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]
    I agree. There was nothing "reportable" about that post. 
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  • T&P's Hoboken - That's serious stuff you're up against, and you need all the good juju you can get. Thanks for sticking around.
  • I'm sorry to hear about all the crappy stuff you have going on.  My thoughts and prayer are with you.

    I am curious, too, why all of Stage's posts are gone including, apparently, the one where she simply said that she didn't delete them.  Why would someone report that?
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    [QUOTE]I would suggest moving on and dropping the topic of the poll, Stage, because Hoboken gave you an answer, and to keep rehashing your question puts you right into the "loves rehashing old sh!t" category with me. You and Linger have all ready made it very clear that beating a dead horse isn't a good thing. So take your own advice to pick up the pieces and move on, or take your concerns up in a private conversation with KJ, KI and Hoboken. Welcome back, Hoboken. I am glad you're still mod of CC.
    Posted by formerlyCooper[/QUOTE]

    <div>I'm the one who brought up Stage's missing post. Everyone else, including Stage, was just wondering, too.</div>
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  • J&K10910J&K10910 member
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    edited April 2013
    In Response to Re:Now is as good a time as any...:In Response to Re: Now is as good a time as any...:I'm sorry to hear about all the crappy stuff you have going on.nbsp; My thoughts and prayer are with you. I am curious, too, why all of Stage's posts are gone including, apparently, the one where she simply said that she didn't delete them.nbsp; Why would someone report that?Posted by happyfor25Some people are just upset with Stage because she speaks her mind instead of falling in line and taking everything she reads as fact.nbsp; They're trying to get her banned by reporting enough of her posts that the autoban kicks in.nbsp; These are the people KI and KJ are trying to protect the feelings of because they apparently are super immature and get vindictive when someone disagrees with them. Posted by LingerLonger1 Plus 1

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  • Should we make "Save Stage" avatars?

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  • While I think Hoboken used a poor word choice and I think it's strange that Stage's posts have disappeared, It seems that Hoboken is going through a rough time and finds solace here on TK so maybe the compassionate thing at this point is to give her a pass this time.  It seems, otherwise, this could just go round and round with no real resolution.  Please don't flame me.
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  • HobokensFuryHobokensFury member
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    edited April 2013
    Ok Linger can we agree to disagree and move on.

    As for Stage's posts disappearing all I can say is it's not me.  To my knowledge it takes 3 people reporting a post for it to be auto deleted unless this has changed. I'm sure Irene and Jackie will be looking into this.

    ETA: I would not have taken the time to quote and reply to a post that I was going to delete.
     
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:071cc0b4-93d8-4ab9-8a80-0d9efe48c5ef">Re: Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Now is as good a time as any... : Hoboken could have just come back and posted instead of this passive aggressive note she wrote up to get the last word.  I'm not saying she wouldn't have caught heat but at least she wouldn't have been stirring the fire. I'm impressed she's convinced so many of you she's such a victim.  You guys would have loved Lucy and Edie too.  They pulled this same crap right before ban-gate went down and used the same excuses used here.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Serious question: I understand you've been here a long time. But do you not feel, honestly, like you are just downright rude sometimes? (And let it be said: My feelers are not hurt, nor do I feel bullied) You were the one who posted the poll betting that she'd just show up like nothing happened, never show up again, or go on a banning spree. She came back and did none of those things but asked for support, like so many other Knotties here, and explained that she was sorry and life was crazy.</div><div>
    </div><div>Many people here have asked for vibes because of this or that in their life. Hoboken did the same. So why dog on her so hard? Why not just let it go? We're on an internet forum about weddings. No one (at least in this thread) said she was a victim, everyone was just sorry that she's been through so much crap lately, mod or not.

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  • Hoboken, I am sorry for the stress and emotions you are having to deal with in regards to your family.  I cannot imagine what that is like to deal with everyday.

    As for the "issue", I get why you did what you did.  If someone from the higher powers was giving me advice on how to deal with a situation I would listen to it as well because they are supposed to know all, right?  I also understand your break from TK.  You have come back, you apologized and you provided an explanation for your actions.  I think at this point everyone just needs to move on.  But I know that is easier said then done and some will really never let it drop, unfortunately.  We are all humans and we all make mistakes.  It is how we learn and grow.  I don't think you should be continually raked over the coals because of it, especially after apologizing.

    Welcome back and I am sending many good vibes your way. 

  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:6b4b6ead-cd38-46e2-bfae-60ef94ade7f7">Re: Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Now is as good a time as any... : I'm a fcuking troll.  OF COURSE I'm rude. If you peruse my posting history you'll notice I'm not usually one to offer support.  Knotties can ask for it all they want.  That doesn't obligate me to offer it or be nice to them because of it. Because she used her mod powers to act a fool and when we asked her to explain she refused and then she ran off with her tail between her legs only to come back and ask for us to support her.
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

    <div>You're right. It absolutely does not obligate you to be rainbows and sunshine to anyone. But for you to just dog and dog on her, and refuse to even act decently towards her until she grovels at your feet is not right. I follow you pretty closely at least on CC, because I read just about everything here.  But in all the interaction I've seen with you and Hoboken, it truly is 'damned if she does, damned if she doesn't. </div><div>
    </div><div>Are you really going to let it go when she tells you that she's sorry for calling you cruel? Or are you going to find more things to dredge up until you actually do run her off?</div>
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:9e461ee9-e860-43da-a7b5-c4238e5b22f2">Re:Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]Just to clear things up I did not delete Stage's comment. I was wondering myself where it went. Either one of TK gods deleted it, it got reported multiple times and got auto deleted as a result or there is a glitch.
    Posted by HobokenBride2012[/QUOTE]

    Hi all - just chiming in here - I am looking into what went on with that post. It was NOT deleted by anyone on TK side or Hoboken.

    Welcome back Hoboken!
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  • edited April 2013
    I will say that I have not yet reported a single post here; they are all reported before I even have a chance to read them. That should tell both of you [Stage and Linger] that other people are finding your posts offensive, and that you should maybe re think what you're writing. I'm with kmbryant here. This isht has been happening for over a week. Your [meaning Stage and Linger] attitude about Hoboken doesn't need to change, but we all get where you're coming from and we're all tired of hearing it, just as much as you're tired of people supporting the other side of the issue. ETA: or they aren't being reported. Confusing either way, but not something we apparently need to attack other members, mods, or KJ and KI over.
  • KM, Linger is a loud and proud troll. She is a pot stirrer. She just wants to get a rise out of people.

    No offence Linger (not that you'd take that offensively).

    If you feed a troll, you get riled up. It's just how it happens.
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  • Now how come Linger's post was deleted?  
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  • kmbryant2413kmbryant2413 member
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    edited April 2013
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:41291593-4199-4d91-9e45-e11f8c2c34e4">Re:Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re:Now is as good a time as any... : Exactly. I'm so offended!  Okay not really. <strong>Funny I don't see any of my posts missing.</strong>  If they were it would tell me I'm doing what I came to do well. I'm not tired of hearing your side of it.  The more you argue with me the more fuel you give this fire which just keeps the conversation going.  Keep going baby.  I'm fine with that. No one is attacking members for posts being removed.  God you really are over-sensitive aren't you?
    Posted by LingerLonger1[/QUOTE]

    <div>You really don't see any of your posts missing? The second one I replied to was gone literally right after I replied. You in particular are missing several on my end, and most of Stage's are gone for me too.</div><div>
    </div><div>ETA: The one that Stage just posted disappeared for me too.</div>
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  • AddieCakeAddieCake member
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    edited April 2013
    OK, seriously, if those posts were deleted via some sort of auto ban or something, we're all screwed when someone gets pissy b/c I didn't see anything reportable in either of them. 

    ETA: Unless there were ones I didn't see, I guess.   WTF is going on here?
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  • Can anyone see any posts from Pele?  She is being told "this user is not allowed to post" when she tries to post. 
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:4f13ebf5-3c9f-4c1a-81e8-96ce42c7a0af">Re: Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]Can anyone see any posts from Pele?  She is being told "this user is not allowed to post" when she tries to post. 
    Posted by AddieL73[/QUOTE]

    <div>No, I haven't seen any.</div>
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_chit-chat_now-is-as-good-a-time-as-any?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:14Discussion:eafea18a-77b1-4dd2-88fe-e13a92a31ad1Post:dde58408-faa7-4a30-9c1c-11ecb5d54313">Re:Now is as good a time as any...</a>:
    [QUOTE]Well now this is a fun new game. It's like suck duck goose with a really big broom. Linger, if you read this before the ball less wonders who aren't brave enough to just have a conversation like grown ups get it deleted, I'll be checking my PM in about half an hour and will reply then. I am William Wallace. ETA: <strong>suck was a typo, but I'm leaving it. It fits.</strong>
    Posted by StageManager14[/QUOTE]

    Leave it. :)
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