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A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?

I went to a small Christian university in Oregon called George Fox.  Some discussion on the etiquette board about the BYU basketball player who was suspended due to premarital sex got me thinking about our lifestyle rules and moral code/honor statement.  We all had to sign this in order to get into school:

In accordance with Christ-centered convictions honoring the body as the temple of the Holy Spirit, the George Fox University communityexpects its student to follow a lifestyle that excludes gambling, the use or possession of nonmedicinal drugs, alcohol, tobacco,obscene or pornographic articles or literature, and forbids immoral sexual behavior.

We were expected to follow that for the entire time we were enrolled, which meant no drinking even after turning 21, no wine when we were travelling in Europe (even though the French thought us very rude to refuse the bottle they so graciously offered us), and all rules must be followed when on school breaks, summer included.

We also had rules on campus about what was and was not ok.  When I first started, R rated movies were not allowed at all, even in the privacy of ones room.  Part way through my 4 years that changed; you could watch R rated movies in the privacy of your room with the door shut, but not in common areas.  Now they say something about discouraging use of the rating system and give some Christian guidelines for choosing movies.  I can't comment on those because I didn't read them.

We had floor hours, so people of the opposite sex were only allowed on dorm floors or in on-campus apartments during certain times.  I think during the weekday it was like 5 pm to 10 pm for dorms, and then 2 pm to 11 or midnight for weekends.  Apartments and houses had longer hours, presumably because there were fewer people living there and common areas instead of just bedrooms.  In the dorms, if there was a boy in your room (or a girl in the boys' dorm) the door had to be open.  There were several common areas (dorm lobbies and tv rooms) where you could hang out with the opposite sex all night long.

The RAs liked to claim there was something called the "horizontal rule," though H and I scoured the handbook and couldn't find it.  Basically, you couldn't lie down in the presence of the opposite sex.  Once, I was lying on my bed and my friend was lying on my roommates.  We were watching a movie in my dorm room and got in trouble because we were both lying down.  Another time, H and I were in the dorm lobby.  H was sitting, I was lying down asleep, and an RA woke me up and told me I had to sit up because it was against the rules.  We asked why me sleeping wasn't ok, but the couple on the next couch over could make out and no one said a word.  The RA didn't have an answer.

We had chapel every M and W from 10 to 10:50 and were required to attend 21 per semester.  There were also special chapels throughout the semester - a movie with a discussion, special Friday chapels, etc.  We got chapel credits (officially called Spiritual Formation credits) for small group Bible studies done through the university, too.  My Bible study group was together for 3 years :-)

Organized dancing is not allowed on campus unless it's one of the university sanctioned events.  We ignored that rule a lot
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Gambling was not allowed.  We couldn't even do a raffle as a fundraiser because it was considered gambling.  We had to find some awkward way around it.  For every $5 people donated to our softball team, they were entered to win a gorgeous quilt.  It was ridiculous that we had to word it that way and became obvious that no one really believed that a raffle fundraiser was gambling, but that we had to follow the letter of the law rather than the spirit of it.

We did not always follow the rules.  I did drink after I turned 21, even though I wasn't supposed to.  When we were in Europe we all went out to a bar one night and that was on a university sponsored trip!  We danced all the time, we didn't really care about that rule (and apparently no one else did either since we never got in trouble for it) and we watched rated R movies on campus.  I also broke floor hours once or twice but never got caught.

So, what kinds of rules did/does your university have?  Do you agree or disagree with them?  Do you follow them always?
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  • edited December 2011
    you go to george fox? no way! i go to multnomah! and we kinda have the same deal for most of those rules too.
    there are a lot that i don't necesarily agree with although i do think some of them are good to have in place, i think that after a certain point we can handle ourselves in a godly manner without having to follow all the rules. i know a lot of people don't agree with a lot of them, and decide not to follow them. i try to follow them because i did agree to that when i enrolled and signed it and all, but some of them i don't really agree with, especially in upperclassmen years.
  • edited December 2011
    and by 'go to' i mean 'went' haha, oops
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    yarmik, that's funny!  Yeah, went...graduated in '03.  I'm old :-P

    I definitely agree that your views change.  At 18, living in my parents' house, I had no problem agreeing to sign the rules.  At 21, living in an apartment with some girlfriends, it was a little different.  We didn't have wild parties (I've still never been drunk, and I'm 30) and we waited to imbibe until we were of age, but now and again we'd sit down and open a bottle of wine to share, things like that.  We figured, we're in our own home (not on campus), we're not getting drunk, so what's the problem?!

    There were things about the rules I really appreciated though, too.  We definitely lived in a bubble, but it was nice.  I remember one day we talked about the fact that we never smelled cigarette smoke because smoking wasn't permitted on campus, at all.  We never had to deal with wild parties or passed out drunks on our dorm floors.  I went to visit friends at OSU and was fairly disgusted by the state of their dorms at 2 am.  I'm really happy I never had to deal with that.
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    edited December 2011
    I go to Liberty University (Jerry Falwell) and we have "The Liberty Way" and "reprimands" (reps) for infractions.  I was a Spiritual Life Director (right below RA) and FI was an RA for two years, so we had these memorized.  Fines begin at 4 reps, $10 and increase up to 30 reps, $150, and 30 hours community service.

    I have 2 months until graduation, and after 5 1/2 years, I'm totally rep free.  There was one night freshman year when IHOP was super busy and we didn't get back to campus until 12:15, but my RA was so scared that my roommate and I were missing that she made us promise it would never happen again and to go straight to bed. :)

    These rules are less strict than how I was raised, so it wasn't an adjustment for me.  With FI being an RA the entire time we were dating, with the exception of last semester when he lived with his sister & BIL, we had to be extra careful of following the PDA/contact rules, because we didn't want him to lose any credibility with his guys...or his job.  When he lived with his sister, we were just as careful because he has a 3 year old niece who would just come out of nowhere.  She was a better chaperone than our accountability partners.

    I C&P'd these from the Student Handbook, that you have to sign when you send an application.

    1 Reprimand

    Curfew violation (1 additional reprimand for each half-hour late until 2:00 a.m.)

    Curfew- Sunday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday- Midnight
    Tuesday- 10pm (required hall meeting and optional prayer groups)
    Friday and Saturday- 12:30am

    Late to Chapel (1 additional reprimand for each quarter hour late until 11 a.m.)

    4 Reprimands + $10 fine

    Dress/hair code violation: male or female- guys must have hair no longer than the middle of the ear or touching the collar.  Girls and guys cannot have "alternative" hairstyles or "unnatural" colors except for temporary colors for game day.

    Improper personal contact- technically anything beyond hand-holding.  There is an unwritten "3-second rule" for hugging.  RAs use their discretion when confronting a couple on campus, and usually try to find an RA of the opposite sex before confronting them.  These rules do not apply off campus, but couples are encouraged to use discretion and are not allowed to be in a residence by themselves, or in an unlit portion of campus after dark.

    Music code violation- there are no styles that are forbidden...if there is vulgarity or sexually explicit lyrics, you can be written up if an RA hears the lyrics or a roommate/hallmate/person walking by your open window complains.

    Outside residence hall after curfew

    Residence hall disturbance/noise violation

    Unauthorized borrowing (plus financial restitution) <--it's called stealing

    6 Reprimands + $35 Fine

    Attendance at a dance- ok...you won't get reps if you're dancing during worship or attend a wedding (well...depending on the pics you post).  You will get reps if you go clubbing and post the pics on fb.  You might get reps if you Salsa Dancing downtown, depending on your behavior and, again, the pics you post on fb.

    Direct disobedience/disrespect

    Disassembly or removal of residence hall furniture- placing your roommate's furniture on the roof is not ok.

    Gambling

    Improper social behavior- pics posted on fb can incriminate you.

    Possession and/or use of tobacco

    Visiting residence lobby or entryway of opposite sex on campus or allowing the same**- we have Open Dorms one evening before Christmas break and one evening before Spring Finals.  That's the only time the opposite sex (besides parents and sibilings) can be on the hall for visits.  The opposite sex may NEVER be on the hall overnight.

    12 Reprimands + $70 Fine

    Attendance at, possession or viewing of, an "R," "NC-17" or "X"-rated movie-"The Passion of the Christ" is exempt from this.

    Deception

    Entering the space above ceiling tiles- it really does happen.  It's a little pathetic

    Obscene, profane or abusive language or behavior

    Out of residence hall overnight or substantial portion of the night without permission (after 2:00 a.m.)

    Participation in an unauthorized petition or demonstration

    Possession and/or viewing of pornography

    Possession of a school key without authorization

    Students of the opposite sex visiting alone at an off-campus residence

    Visiting the residence hallway of the opposite sex

    18 Reprimands + $100 Fine

    (regardless of previously paid fines) + 18 hours Disciplinary Community Service + 50% Scholarship Reduction

    Association with those consuming alcohol- This has a bit of wiggle room.  It's really meant to say that if you're at a party, and the party gets busted, you can get reps regardless of having a drink in your hands at that moment.  If you're at dinner with your parents and your dad gets a glass of wine, you don't have to leave the table.  

    Commission of a misdemeanor

    Failure to properly identify oneself

    Lying to a dean during an official investigation

    Racial harassment

    Sexual harassment (i.e., unwelcome sexual advances, requests for sexual favors or other conduct or comments of a sexual nature)

    Sexual misconduct and/or any state of undress

    Threat to do bodily harm

    Vandalism (plus financial restitution)

    Visiting bedroom of the opposite sex on/off campus or allowing the same

    30 Reprimands + $150 Fine

    (regardless of previously paid fines) + 30 hours Disciplinary Community Service + possible Administrative Withdrawal and/or possible 100% Scholarship Reduction. NOTE: For each accumulation of six (6) or more reprimands after 30, an additional $150 fine will be assessed.

    Abortion

    Academic dishonesty

    Assault/sexual assault (minimum two (2) semesters out) Commission/conviction of any felony

    Failure of three (3) Christian/Community Services without reconciliation

    Illegal drugs-association/possession, use/distribution (minimum two semesters out)

    Immorality

    Involvement with witchcraft, séances, mysticism, paganism, or other satanic or demonic activity.

    Life-threatening behavior or language to others or oneself (immediate removal/exclusion from campus and a minimum of two semesters out)

    Non-participation/disruption/non-compliance (possible removal/exclusion from campus)

    Possession or consumption of alcoholic beverages

    Refusal to submit to an Alco-Sensor test and/or drug test

    Spending the night with a person of the opposite sex

    Stealing or possession of stolen property (plus financial restitution; minimum two semesters out)

    Two or more individuals of the opposite sex together in motel room

    Unauthorized possession/use of weapons

    Dress Code for Women
    Hair and clothing styles related to a counterculture (as determined by the Student Conduct Review Committee) are not acceptable.
    Dresses and skirts should be no shorter than the top of the knee (sitting or standing). Skirt slits should be modest; open slits should be no higher than the top of the knee, closed slits should be no higher than two inches from the top of the knee.
    Shoulder straps should be no less than two inches wide. Anything tight, scant, backless, see-through, low in the neckline or revealing the midriff (in any position) is immodest and unacceptable. Slips should be worn under thin material.
    Earrings and plugs are permitted in ears only. No other facial piercing or plugs are allowed, including tongue.

    Class Dress
    Sweaters, loose-fitting tops, sweatshirts (no inappropriate logos), skirts, dresses, pants, which would include capri/cropped pants and neat jeans (no holes, patches, or tears), footwear (sandals or flip-flops are acceptable).

    Class Dress must be worn in academic and administrative buildings before 4:30 pm on weekdays and in all classes, regardless of time.

    Casual Dress
    Shirts, neat pants, jeans, wind suits, loose-fitting, modest shorts (mid-thigh or longer), shoes (sandals or flip-flops are acceptable).

    Swimmear may only be worn in the pool/pool area and must be one-piece and in good taste.

    Dress Code for Men
    Hair and clothing style related to a counterculture (as determined by the Student Conduct Review Committee) are not acceptable. Hair should be no longer than the middle of the ear. Hair should be cut in such a way that it will not come over the collar or eyebrows at any time. Ponytails for men are unacceptable. Earrings and/or plugs are not permitted on or off campus nor is body piercing.

    Class Dress
    Collared or polo shirts, sweaters, sweatshirts (no inappropriate logos), pants (includes neat jeans, properly worn, with no holes, patches, or tears), footwear (sandals or flip-flops are acceptable), no hats, durags or hoods in class or convocation.

    Casual Dress
    Shirts, neat pants, jeans, wind suits, loose-fitting modest shorts (mid-thigh or longer), shoes (sandals or flip-flops acceptable), no hats, durags or hoods during church services.

    Swimmear- No speedos, spandex, or jean cut-offs.
  • edited December 2011
    I went to a small baptist college in FL and the baptistcollege of FL and they had similar rules. Public displays of affection where only hand holding and hugging. I'm not sure if there was a no kissing rule but you only it saw on seldom occassions  with more adventureous couples or randomly see people making out at night and FI got in trouble with his RA for kissing my nose. You were not allowed in the opposite sex's dorm not even the common area. Also the drinking rule was the same and there was no gambling. We did have some modesty rules but I did see some girls break them. I think they had the same movie rating policy but in on the TVs it had to be PG.
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  • edited December 2011
    My school wasn't as strict. I was never an RA or anything so I don't entirely remember the rules.

    I went to a Christian college. We had visitation hours in most buildings in the evenings every other night - unless you were in an apartment and the visitation was 12noon-12midnight.

    We were required to attend chapel twice a week for a total of 24 times - so once you acquired your 24 chapels you could stop going. It was painful. Sometimes they had night chapels with guest speakers and such that counted for chapel credit - which was nice because as I got older they had more and more guests that were catered to specific interests, like medicine and computers. I wish they had that more when I was a freshman and sophmore.

    Drinking was prohibited, even off campus. I personally found this absurd that if I was having a glass of wine with dinner over the age of 21, and an RA or RD saw me in the restaurant they could write me up for it. I didn't see the point of prohibiting that. I understand public drunkeness (since that's already a law!) as well as drunkeness or drinking on campus. At one point they were even monitoring facebook accounts for photos of alcohol anywhere. PA passed an ordinance that no longer allowed penalty via social media since a photo or status can easily be deleted or misinterpreted. I couldn't have wine at Thanksgiving (well.. I did... I just put it away when I was taking a photo) but it was a major inconvenience in my honest opinion.

    I can't really remember anything else at this point, but we were allowed to date and live our lives etc. It's my understanding that things have gotten stricter since I left but things were fairly lose considering our sister Christian colleges' rules.
  • edited December 2011
    Hmm... I went to UNC Chapel Hill, for both undergraduate and graduate degrees.  It is a public university and is known for being a bit more liberal.  The only policy we had to agree to was the Honor Code.

    That being said, people still have standards of behavior.  My 2nd year there, I chose to live in a substance free dorm #1 because I got to be on north campus close to the music building (which is basically where I lived during undergrad), and #2 because there were a lot of people who smoked in the dorm I was in my freshman year.  I moved off campus for my junior, senior, and graduate years.  Our community had standards of behavior, which included me calling the cops on a party one time that went to 4AM (yeah, really) and was REALLY loud and I waited to call until people were actually yelling obscenely and banging lots of loud things on the basketball court right outside my apartment.  What's odd is that if I hadn't called, the person who was taken to the hospital with alcohol poisoning might not be alive today.  They arrested 2 people who were selling / using drugs at the party.  It was a bizarre one-time event.  Oh, and my apartment complex kicked those people out the very next weekend.  Gave them 30 days to find somewhere new to live.  


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    edited December 2011
    we didnt realy have any rules.  i went to a state university as well.
    we did have a drug/alcohol free dorm that i lived in one year that required sign off saying you wouldnt drink or do drugs anywhere at any time, even when home on breaks.  other than that, very liberal.

    i graduated in 99.
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    Wow!  I went to a "Presbyterian" college, though it definitely did not have a Christian feeling to it at all.  Back in the day it used to be a pretty conservative college with a lot of the rules that you all have been talking about, but now it's pretty liberal all around.

    We had a couple different Christian groups (Intervarsity, FCA, and a more liberal group called En Route), a Catholic group, a Jewish group (Hillel), and a couple other more "seeking" type groups.  I went to the Presybyterian church on campus once and hated the service, so I found an off campus church to attend that I loved.  I was also involved with FCA all four years, and Intervarsity for one.

    I was also an RA, but we did not have nearly as many restrictions.  We had co-ed dorms/houses, and one all girls dorm which I lived in for my freshman and senior year.  There were no restrictions on members of the opposite sex coming over unless the hall itself made a specific rule.  There was no co-habitation allowed technically, but it only would become an issue if the person moved all of their stuff over, or if they had violated their roommate contract.  We had no rules about keeping doors open or not being able to lie down.  Of age students were allowed to drink on or off campus, while obviously underage students were not.  We even had a dance club type place in the basement of one of the dining halls where they'd serve alcohol (to of age students obviously!)  Smoking was allowed IN the dorms my freshman year (YUCK YUCK YUCK!!!) but they instituted a 25 ft. from a building rule after that year, though it was rather hard to enforce at times.

    Overall, my job as an RA wasn't too rough, especially since I just had freshman most of those years (3 years to be exact).  I mostly dealt with roommate disagreements, every once in awhile, alcohol, but I didn't have to take attendance each night or worry about curfews or anything like that.  I don't know if I'd be able to handle that!!

    While I wish there had been more of a Christian emphasis to the school, I'm kind of glad we didn't have all of those restrictions.  I was pretty well behaved.  I only drank once before I was 21 (and it was during the summer and just one glass of champagne), obviously stayed away from drugs and all that, didn't have pre-marital sex (though I did have a futon that occasionally a guy friend would sleep on for certain reasons), and had decent hair and attire.  I was proud of my lifestyle and the example I showed to others around me. 

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  • edited December 2011
    I went to a public university so we had no specific rules like this. Just standard codes of conduct. I'm fairly certain my public high school had higher restrictions for things like clothing than my university did. ;)

    I already expanded on my opinion on this in the E thread, but I am glad they punished the player. He violated a code that was clearly established.
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    I went to Wake Forest, which is a private university. They are pretty proud of the fact that they have disaffiliated with the SBC (Southern Baptist Convention) back in the day. Now it is pretty liberal. We don't have many restrictions at all, mostly like others have said what you and your roommate agree to. I did live in sub-free housing my freshman year. It made sense then (still does) since I was underage and made my best friends there. Our dorms were co-ed, the each wing had the same gender (although my sophmore year I lived in theme housing where there were guys on my hall).

    When I came to college I had no intentions of drinking, but then I tried some wine when I studied abroad in London and actually liked it. Now FI and I  or our friends enjoy a glass once every week or two, but I never drank in the US until I was 21 just because I thought I should respect that authority.

    I went to a private Christian school for K-8th grade though, so I experienced to some extent some behavior limitations. In my opinion, I think they completely neglect the concept of Christian freedom and tend to focus on outward behavior and "moralism" rather than the heart that obeys out of faith and gratitude. For instance, to me how a Christian university should deal with students behaving sinfully with the opposite sex is not to charge a fine, but to talk with them from the perspective of a brother/sister in Christ in order to bring them to a place a repentence. Maybe it is just my personality, but those type of things encourage in my heart a spirit of defiance and would lead to bitterness. Personally, I also think things like hair, piercings, etc. are going way beyond the limits of Scripture and I have a problem with that.

    However, I absolutely agree if you sign statements pledging that you will uphold these things and you disobey, you should face whatever the stated consequences are. My problem is with the rules in the first place. I hope that makes sense =)
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    Wow, I had no idea some universities had rules as strict as those.  I went to a public university and pretty much our "rules" were our honor code.  It basically says, no academic cheating, no illegal drugs, no doing harm to other people.  Pretty much no illegal activity.  The main point behind the university's philosophy was, "The University is an institution which encourages the intellectual and personal growth of its students as scholars and citizens."
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_curious-question-arewere-universitys-lifestyle-rules?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:eda37a20-f026-46ec-8f59-060d3c6193eePost:82f82be9-4e59-487a-bf2c-a8907dd7a603">Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Wow, I had no idea some universities had rules as strict as those.  I went to a public university and pretty much our "rules" were our honor code.  It basically says, no academic cheating, no illegal drugs, no doing harm to other people.  Pretty much no illegal activity.  The main point behind the university's philosophy was, "The University is an institution which encourages the intellectual and personal growth of its students as scholars and citizens."
    Posted by shaydenise[/QUOTE]

    Some people think Liberty's rules are ridiculous...and then I tell them to look up Bob Jones University and Pensecola Christian College.  Pensecola blocked Liberty's website beacuse they were loosing so many students to us.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_curious-question-arewere-universitys-lifestyle-rules?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:eda37a20-f026-46ec-8f59-060d3c6193eePost:82f82be9-4e59-487a-bf2c-a8907dd7a603">Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Wow, I had no idea some universities had rules as strict as those.  I went to a public university and pretty much our "rules" were our honor code.  It basically says, no academic cheating, no illegal drugs, no doing harm to other people.  Pretty much no illegal activity.  The main point behind the university's philosophy was, "The University is an institution which encourages the intellectual and personal growth of its students as scholars and citizens."
    Posted by shaydenise[/QUOTE]

    Ditto.  I went to Cornell and they basically told us not to do anything illegal and trusted us to be adults.

    My sister went to Notre Dame and they had some rules, but not as many as a lot of the Christian schools others have described.  There were only certain hours when membes of the opposite sex could be in a dorm or off-campus apartment.  Pre-marital sex was a conduct code violation.  But there weren't any dress codes or prohibitions against drinking if you were of age.  The dorms enforced the opposite sex rules pretty strictly, but the codes of conduct were not really enforced off campus unless there was a blatant violation.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_curious-question-arewere-universitys-lifestyle-rules?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:eda37a20-f026-46ec-8f59-060d3c6193eePost:b2572df2-eb7e-467d-97f9-a1c547e3b2ee">Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules? : Some people think Liberty's rules are ridiculous...and then I tell them to look up Bob Jones University and Pensecola Christian College.  Pensecola blocked Liberty's website beacuse they were loosing so many students to us.
    Posted by fpaemp2011[/QUOTE]

    Yeah, hi, I'm one of those people. It's not just Liberty, though, we have a few colleges here in the Northwest that I just shake my head at. I go to a large public state school and we have a code of conduct that is pretty strictly enforced. I thought the way our university handled things was ridiculous, but a friend from high school showed me some of the rules where she goes to school and my jaw just about hit the floor.

    That being said, I follow most of those rules anyway. For some reason it's the idea of the rules being set in stone and some RA set out to enforce them that bothers me.
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    Fpaemp, do you like LU? Basically all of my cousins went/go there and nearly all of them love it :)

    I go to a secular university, so we don't have rules like that at all. Basically, we have some "quiet hours" on certain days and we have to sign in visitors in residence, but other than that as long as it isn't illegal it's okay. Probably why I didn't love living in residence ;)

    Some of those rules are similar to the church membership handbooks I've seen. And people need to sign in agreement to those handbooks in order to become church members.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_curious-question-arewere-universitys-lifestyle-rules?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:eda37a20-f026-46ec-8f59-060d3c6193eePost:5c992d8a-0f99-422a-a303-cc8fe68e511c">Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Fpaemp, do you like LU? Basically all of my cousins went/go there and nearly all of them love it :)
    Posted by heyimbren[/QUOTE]

    I absolutely LOVE it.  It didn't bother me at all that I had to take 6 years to complete my degree.  Like I said before, the rules at LU were far less strict than the conservative Southern Baptist home I was raised in, it fits my lifestyle, and it's an hour and a half from home.  It was a shock that there were more people in the on-campus dorms (6,000 when I started in 2005...and we have more dorms now) than lived in my entire COUNTY.  I grew up in a church with 110 members, so Campus Church was also a bit of a shock, but I had been to youth camp, so I wasn't totally lost.  I had also attended College for a Weekend, which they have 4 times a year, so I knew where things were on campus and had gone to a few classes.

    We also have 15 hours of required Bible classes.  Christian Worldview I and II  and Christian Life & Evangelism must be taken your first two semesters there, and Old Testament Survey, New Testament Survey, and Theology I and II must be taken before you graduate.

    Some of us thought things would go downhill after Dr. Falwell died in 2007, but the only thing that has changed under Jerry Jr is the guys hair code. 
  • edited December 2011

    I'm either going to a state university or a community college, not sure which yet but I'm leaning more toward the community college.

    The rules I'm sure will be like above - no harming others, no drugs/alcohol and so on.  I'm guessing my own personal rules will be more strict than the rules they set out.  :)



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  • edited December 2011
    I go to a public university in WI.

    Here's our rules:

    No having sex with  your roommate in the room.
    No candles.
    No george forman grills.
    No toasters.
    No doing illegal drugs. (although people still did/do)
    No smoking within a certain number of feet from the door.
    Be sort of quiet during quiet hours, although it's not necessary-they don't enforce it.
    only fish allowed in the dorms. No cats or pets of any other kind.

    That's honestly the only rules I can think of. In WI, we have 'wet campuses' so we can drink in our dorms too.

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  • SuMmErKuTiESuMmErKuTiE member
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    I also went to a public university and honestly can't imagine going to a university that is so strict. When you're enrolled in college, you're an adult and shouldn't be so opressed by so many rules. I went to a Christian high school where there a ton of rules, dresscode, etc.. but by college, my classmates and I were old enough to make our own decisions. I was very happy to be free of a dress code, and I lived in a co-ed dorm hall. For the freshman and sophomores, there were guys in the building but it was broken up by floors. But by the time you were in campus apartments/suites there could be guys across the hall or next door. We had the basic university rules.. no cheating, no illegal drug use, no candles in the dorms, no loud music during certain hours or excessive noise, etc.. we didn't have a dry campus, but obviously if you're under 21 you were not allowed to bring alcohol into the dorms. If you were 21 and older you could bring beer cans but no glass bottles. Sometimes the RA's would do backpack checks on Thursday and Friday afternoons/early evenings and drop people's bags so if there was a glass bottle it'd be apparent that someone was sneaking in hard alcohol. My roomates used to sneak wine bottles and hard alcohol in successfully, but I definitely walked by a few times to some unfortunate people who were not so successful and it was defintiely comical.

    Honestly, my opinion is when the rules are that strict and oppressive, there will always be people waiting to break them or sneak around. My mom went to a strict Bible Institute for her freshman year of college and she liked it there, but she often has stories of her friends and classmates looking to break the rules.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_curious-question-arewere-universitys-lifestyle-rules?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:eda37a20-f026-46ec-8f59-060d3c6193eePost:a85b5942-3a76-46c3-9c82-5090a5b07990">Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?</a>:
    [QUOTE]Honestly, my opinion is when the rules are that strict and oppressive, there will always be people waiting to break them or sneak around. My mom went to a strict Bible Institute for her freshman year of college and she liked it there, but she often has stories of her friends and classmates looking to break the rules.
    Posted by SuMmErKuTiE[/QUOTE]

    LOL. Yeah, My college was full of wildncrazies. Too many rules!
  • azdancer8azdancer8 member
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    I attended a Christian liberal arts college. I don't remember all of the specific rules, but we had what was called the Big Three. No alcohol on campus, no violence, and no cohabitation.
  • edited December 2011
    I went to a private University that used to be associated with the Baptist Church.  Up into the 80s (I think.  maybe it was the 90s?) there was a gate in the middle of campus that separate the women's side from the men's side.  Classes were coed but after a certain time everyone had to be on their own side.  Through that gate was the only way to get to the other side b/c there is a lake in the middle of campus.

    When I started (fall 2003), guys we were able to swipe into the opposite sex's dorm until 2am.  It was also the first time that there was a men's dorm on the women's side of the lake and visa versa.  There wsa one coed dorm, but there were individual swipes on each floor.  (anyone see Cry Wolf?  the part where he was chasing the person up the stairs and couldn't get through the door was filmed in that dorm)

    While I was there they switched more dorms so there are approximately equal numbers of men and women on both sides of the lake.  I think since I've left there is a new dorm that is coed but everything is suite/apartment style so there aren't any hall bathrooms.

    All freshmen dorms were substance free, and I chose to live on substance free halls soph and junior years.  (Apartment senior year.)
  • DramaGeekDramaGeek member
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    Fp, we used to always look at Pensacola and Bob Jones and laugh.  I can't imagine going anywhere so strict.

    I know a lot of people would look at the rules we had and think they were horrible.  I guess I didn't care because they were rules I'd have followed regardless.  I didn't drink, do drugs, have sex, etc and had no desire to.  The idea behind it was to keep conflict down, partially.  No one at the school really had a problem with rated R movies, but we had a lot of people come from very conservative, strict homes who would have been completely offended if they saw something like that in an open area.  The rule kept that from happening, which was why we pushed for the change from no rated R movies at all to rated R ok in private areas.  We also managed to get floor hours changed.

    We did have co-ed dorms, where each floor was single sex but the floors alternated, or one wing was women and the other wing was men.  Our apartments and suites were co-ed as well, so our next door neighbors were 4 guys.

  • fpaemp2011fpaemp2011 member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_curious-question-arewere-universitys-lifestyle-rules?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:eda37a20-f026-46ec-8f59-060d3c6193eePost:e1447dd3-37f3-4ff7-98b5-c7e117a8699e">Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?</a>:
    [QUOTE]We did have co-ed dorms, where each floor was single sex but the floors alternated, or one wing was women and the other wing was men.  Our apartments and suites were co-ed as well, so our next door neighbors were 4 guys.
    Posted by DramaGeek[/QUOTE]

    Jerry Jr tried to build a dorm last year that would have had a co-ed common area on the ground floor, but have same-sex wings with card swipe entrances so someone would have to try really hard to "end-up" on the wrong side of the dorm.  The alumni said they would pull donations...so that was scrapped.  I just remember visiting the guys dorms for Open Dorms and being disgusted.  I liked that I could run to the bathroom in my robe or be in the living room in my pj's and not worry about a guy just randomly showing up.  I grew up with brothers, so 3 years of living with all girls on campus, and 3 years off, while drama filled beyond belief, has been kinda nice.
  • MrsTucker2011MrsTucker2011 member
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    I went to a CC, so whatever you wanted to do pretty much went. (as long as campus police didnt' know) Skeeeeeeevy. :P

    I was dying to go to Cal Baptist, but we didn't have the money. I've had friends that went to George Fox, and Patrick Henry. They all sounded strict, but really good schools.

    Pensacola on the other hand seemed like a quaker school - not really my cup of tea... I like holding hands with FI. Wink
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  • naomikbnaomikb member
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    I go/went to two public universities, no lifestyle rules here.

    In residence though, there were some rules:
    - no drinking underage (19 here in Ontario)
    - no giving drinks or having parties with people underage
    - and then various rez-related things like noise, etc.

    I'm kind of sad I can't participate in this discussion more, it's really interesting!  I knew Christian universities had rules, but I'm blown away!
  • twixinthemixtwixinthemix member
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    MrsTucker--I don't know much about quaker schools but I worked the past four summers at a conference center that'd have 700-800 quakers on campus for a week, and they were certainly pretty out there, especially the younger ones!  Lot's of PDA, and even smoking and drinking (both which were illegal on campus, but we all knew they were doing it!)

    Anna--I completely agree with you :-)

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  • MrsTucker2011MrsTucker2011 member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_curious-question-arewere-universitys-lifestyle-rules?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:eda37a20-f026-46ec-8f59-060d3c6193eePost:8f5b6ff2-50f3-46c5-88a7-4419b14be341">Re: A curious question - What are/were your university's lifestyle rules?</a>:
    [QUOTE]MrsTucker--I don't know much about quaker schools but I worked the past four summers at a conference center that'd have 700-800 quakers on campus for a week, and they were certainly pretty out there, especially the younger ones!  Lot's of PDA, and even smoking and drinking (both which were illegal on campus, but we all knew they were doing it!) Anna--I completely agree with you :-)
    Posted by twixinthemix[/QUOTE]

    Lol! Never mind then. Edit for above - "very very strict school"!
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  • DramaGeekDramaGeek member
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    George Fox is a Quaker school.  We could definitely hold hands and hug.  Actually, there were no PDA rules that I can think of.  We also didn't have a dress code beyond "dress appropriately."

    I totally forgot that my cousin went to Indiana Wesleyan for a year.  They had a curfew, which I found ridiculous.  If you weren't in your room by 9pm they called your cell phone and/or parents to find out where you were.  You had to check out if you were leaving and would be gone past 9 (as in, going home or something).  She went home 3 weekends in a row because our grandma was in the hospital and they called her parents to be sure she was actually going home :- |  
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