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I KNEW this would happen (long)

Back in my wee little newb days, I posted about not inviting my MOH's mother (we'll call her X) to the wedding. MOH is my first cousin (our dads are brothers) and my mom was married to MOH's dad before she was married to my dad. This has never been a problem for anyone, except X (my mom's ex H's second wife, who he is no longer married to). X and my mom have never gotten along and X has said some really terrible stuff about both of my parents, my brother and me, behind our backs. I could give examples til I'm blue in the face, but suffice it to say that there's animosity between my immediate family and MOH's mom. My mom made is very clear that she didn't want to invite X. So I obviously didn't sent X an invitation. And I didn't include a + 1 on my uncle's invite, as he is not currently in a relationship and will know 3/4 of the guestlist, but mainly to avoid him bringing X with him. My uncle (MOH's dad) has a tendency to "date" X even though they've been divorced for 4 years now. He brings her to family functions and whatnot. And that's fine when it's not a family function my family is hosting. Everyone's always been civil and my mom's been really laid back about the entire wedding and this was really the only detail she was adamant about. So I get a text just now from MOH saying that her dad is bringing X. I called my dad and asked him to please handle it.

I have NEVER said a cross word about X to MOH, except the one time when MOH asked me if I hated her mother and why. I told her the truth because she asked me directly. We never talked about it again. Anyway, I can't get in the middle of this. I don't want to hurt MOH by telling her my mother can't stand to be in the same room with her mother, I don't want to hurt uncle because he's been like a second father to me my whole life. I'm scared that X's being there is gonna put a kink in my mom's happiness on the wedding day. She didn't ask for ANYTHING except this one person to not be there, and I did my best to accomplish that, but it looks like it's happening anyway. My dad is a fantastic mediator, so hopefully he'll be able to sort this out. I told him to say whatever was necessary to make my mom ok with it, or to get uncle to get a different date, or not bring anyone. Just do whatever he thought best.

I keep thinking about things I've said to posters in the past about family members who didn't get along both being at the wedding. I know I've told people that their family members should love them enough to be able to be civil to one another for one day. I sincerely hope that's the case here. Please tell me that this will not be a big deal and that everyone will be fine day of and that we won't have a Jerry Springer type brawl at a plantation.
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Re: I KNEW this would happen (long)

  • Everything will be fine, and you won't need Steve Wilkos.

    I totally forgot about this story until now when I needed a flow chart to follow it.

    Oh LC, for your sake, I'm glad your wedding is soon.
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  • I had to draw a diagram for FI (seriously) a few months after we started dating to explain this family dynamic to him. And I'm glad for y'all's sake that the wedding in 15 days. No more LJ wedding posts after that.
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  • *Hugs*
    Everything will be fine!
    H's 2 uncles absolutely hate each other--and they managed to avoid each other for the whole weekend.  There were no drunken outbursts (which is surprisingly, considered one of the uncles is an alcoholic and we had an open bar), no fights, nothing.  Your wedding will be marvelous! Promise.
  • It will be fine. She's not like certifiably nuts or anything is she? I think your uncle totally has this for you. I wouldn't worry about it.
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  • Breathe.  It'll be fine.  Sounds like your dad is well equipped to handle it. 
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  • he wasnt invited with a guest.  period.  he therefore shouldnt be bringing one, regardless of who she is.

    i hope your dad takes care of this for you. 
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_knew-this-would-happen-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:efaa9e7f-be36-4865-887f-eb6f4931b7d6Post:1964a92a-60d3-4feb-9bd6-e25cfab9bf9f">Re: I KNEW this would happen (long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]Wow. That is one complicated mess. I hope that your mom will be okay with X coming, because it certainly looks like she will be there. <strong>Hopefully your dad can remind her that she is there for you and she may be able to avoid X entirely.</strong> God, weddings are so complicated. So happy mine is over.
    Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]
    I'm really counting on my dad to come through on this one. He's the only one who is even remotely capable of getting my mom to a point where she's ok with this.
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  • Even if X shows up, I'm pretty sure that won't ruin your mom's day.  This is an important day for her.  Just as important as it is for you.  And she'll be so HIGH and stressed about wedding details, she won't have time to notice hoarfaceX.

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  • I think the thing that bothers me most about it is that X even wants to come. It's been obvious for the majority of my life that she thinks my entire immediate family is the scum of the Earth, so I have to guess that her wanting to come comes from a malicious place. Maybe I'm wrong, but I keep thinking she wants to come simply so she can criticize my family to anyone who'll listen.

    And Fish, my mom knows how to get down. Just sayin.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_knew-this-would-happen-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:efaa9e7f-be36-4865-887f-eb6f4931b7d6Post:89b36a42-ec54-4588-bb8c-c916bb76e9c9">Re: I KNEW this would happen (long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: I KNEW this would happen (long) : HoarfaceX? So is X just a nickname? 
    Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]
    I thought about calling her GDW. Which stands for gold-digging whore. But then I decided that if I was going to bitch about X talking about me behind my back, it would be karmically wise for me not to do the same thing to her. But hey, the cat's out of the bag I guess. X is a gold digging whore.
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  • Aw, I'm sorry.   The GDW won't affect your wedding day one whit - your dad will be handling your Mom (and I'm willing to bet she won't even need handling - it's just not going to be foremost in her mind when her baby girl is getting married) and you'll be all bride-y.  It's going to be a wonderful day and, at the end of it, the GDW will be eating her heart out. 
  • Do you need the blackup?  Because me and Fische will be there in a hot second to regulate.  Sh*t will get real.

    Don't worry, if she does come and act like a twatmuffin, everybody's reaction will be "WTF, who is this heifer and why is she acting out of her damn mind?"  Also, I bet both you and your mom will be so busy the day of the wedding that you won't even notice she's there. 

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  • Blackup is exactly what I need, Nuggs! Thanks everybody. I know this is stuff we've all said to other people a bazillion times, but I guess I just needed to hear it again. Thank you all.
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  • LC you always give good advice, but when it is you, and there are emotions involved, it is easy to forget the words that make sense. You can't worry about this, it is out of your control. Let your dad handle it, it will all work out. Although, etiquette wise, your uncle is wrong because X was not invited.
  • Yeah my uncle clearly doesn't understand that "Mr. X and Mr. X Jr." on the invitation envelope meant uncle and other first cousin, not uncle, first cousin, and GDW. I'm having cocktails this afternoon, I believe.
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  • I don't see why your mom has to be the one to suck it up and deal with X. Hopefully dad will do the right thing and explain to his brother that X isn't welcome. Uncle isn't even married to X anymore so that shouldn't be insulting to him and if it is, well, I'd rather uncle be pissed than mom.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_knew-this-would-happen-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:efaa9e7f-be36-4865-887f-eb6f4931b7d6Post:5c069594-2265-404f-82cc-c016e1e74e15">Re: I KNEW this would happen (long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I don't see why your mom has to be the one to suck it up and deal with X. Hopefully dad will do the right thing and explain to his brother that X isn't welcome. Uncle isn't even married to X anymore so that shouldn't be insulting to him and if it is, well, I'd rather uncle be pissed than mom.
    Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]
    I completely agree with you. It's just that I can't be the one to say any of this because I'm caught in the middle of all of it. And I'm sincerely hoping that dad chooses the option of calling uncle and putting the kibosh on bringing X. Mom shouldn't have to suck it up at all. And quite frankly, I'm almost as adamant about X not being there as my mom is. The only difference is that MOH is my best friend and close family and I'll deal with X being there for the sake of MOH. Which just brings another question into play that kind of makes me mad: MOH knows how my mom and I feel about X, so why can't SHE suck it up and tell her dad not to bring X? Whatever happens will happen and the situation is no longer in my hands.
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  • You'll be okay. I'm sure your dad will handle it. Did your uncle RSVP yet? Did he tell YOU he was bringing a date?

    My parents had to be in the same room two days in a row (RD, then wedding). My dad sat behind my mom at the ceremony. Aside from my dad getting pissy when my mom's husband decided to congratulate him, everyone lived! And I was none the wiser of any of it until after the wedding.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_knew-this-would-happen-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:efaa9e7f-be36-4865-887f-eb6f4931b7d6Post:601556b3-ac05-458f-b3ec-543b3010a00c">Re: I KNEW this would happen (long)</a>:
    [QUOTE]You'll be okay. I'm sure your dad will handle it. Did your uncle RSVP yet? <strong>Did he tell YOU he was bringing a date?</strong> My parents had to be in the same room two days in a row (RD, then wedding). My dad sat behind my mom at the ceremony. Aside from my dad getting pissy when my mom's husband decided to congratulate him, everyone lived! And I was none the wiser of any of it until after the wedding.
    Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
    Nope. I'm assuming he told MOH and she was passing along the message. I'm also kind of hoping that someone in this situation (uncle, hopefully) realizes what a terrible idea this is and X doesn't come. I've got 15 days to hope for that. My mom asked that RSVPs be sent to her her house, so I don't know if uncle even bothered to send it back and if he did what it said. But he told my mom that he, himself, was for sure coming. This bringing X business is all news to me.
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  • From one LJ poster to (not usually! :)) another: it's okay LC.  It will work out just fine.  Breathe.  You're almost there!!!
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  • megk8ozmegk8oz member
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    edited November 2010
    Oh, I remember you telling this story ... I actually remember telling you that I thought X had absolutely no business being there, and that your cousin really should understand why (If I remember correctly, you'd mentioned you were afraid of hurting her feelings by excluding her mother).

    I would just trust that your dad can handle this and try not to worry about it too much. Considering that this is literally the only thing your mom requested, I'm going to hope that's all your dad really needs to emphasize on to get the point across that X is just plain not welcome.

    If the cvntmuffin does show up that day just remember what we tell everybody else: "nobody can ruin your day but you". Just smile, breath and focus on all of the good things going on. Hopefully, your mom will be able to do the same.

    {{{happy thoughts}}}

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  • I agree with PP - if she does show up and show her ass - people will judge her and no one else. 
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