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And TK ate it.

But I saw this today on my local news website and thought it was relevant:

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/18286567/time-magazine-breastfeeding-cover-image-sparks-debate

Most of it is about whether or not "attachment parenting" is appropriate or not, but if you watch the video, the first guy they interview is just disgusted that Time would run an issue with a breastfeeding mother on the cover.  =(
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  • professorscienceprofessorscience member
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    Also, if you watch the video, please to not judge Dallas on the reporter at the end who interviews the child psychologist.  She drives me crazy ("Yeah, yeah, attachment-parenting.  Crazy stuff.  Can you BELIEVE she's wearing SKINNY JEANS?!")
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  • bibliophile2010bibliophile2010 member
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    I'm hearing a lot about the Time cover. I think that the public's view of breastfeeding is another symptom of our disconnect between what our bodies are made for (ie breasts are for feeding babies) and what they are used for.

    All of that said, I do think the picture is intentionally trying to be controversial. I think it is kind of a weird pic. If I was an attachment parenting person, I'd probably be pretty upset that it is the image that Time chose to portray their view.

    I'm not personally into attachment parenting, but I think that is a legitimate parenting choice. I also think public breastfeeding should be modest (wear a cover or blanket -- I saw a woman whip out her breast in the middle of a store and just let her LO go at it, which was frankly shocking), but I tend to believe in modesty much, much more than society.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_there-was-a-thread-about-societys-view-of-women?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:927e312a-8cd7-4549-8312-bf3072a82d23Post:315eac10-b77a-445b-a4a4-d02c685f4f54">Re: There was a thread about society's view of women...</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'm hearing a lot about the Time cover. I think that the public's view of breastfeeding is another symptom of our disconnect between what our bodies are made for (ie breasts are for feeding babies) and what they are used for. All of that said, I do think the picture is intentionally trying to be controversial. I think it is kind of a weird pic. If I was an attachment parenting person, I'd probably be pretty upset that it is the image that Time chose to portray their view. I'm not personally into attachment parenting, but I think that is a legitimate parenting choice. I also think public breastfeeding should be modest (wear a cover or blanket -- I saw a woman whip out her breast in the middle of a store and just let her LO go at it, which was frankly shocking), but I tend to believe in modesty much, much more than society.
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    You took the words right out of my mouth!

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  • Resa77Resa77
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    I agree that women should try to be modest about breastfeeding.  Yes it's natural and good, but that doesn't mean it's for everyone to see. 

    Also, although I don't think I would ever breastfeed a child who can talk, I wouldn't judge someone who does. However, that child is clearly old enough not to need to be breastfed in the middle of the store, or church, or wherever.  A newborn needs to be fed often, and on their schedule.  But even with a 2 year old, you can expect them to wait until you are able to feed them in a more private location, you know?

     

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  • MedStudent13MedStudent13 member
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    I was wondering where that thread went...
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  • caitriona87caitriona87 member
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    I think what bothers me about that picture is that it almost looks like it was meant to be salacious. The posing, facial expression, even the attire on both mom & kid just conspire to make the whole thing look bizarre.

    I also realize that some people are into VERY extended bf'ing, and that's fine, but the truth is that once a kid is older than 12-18 months there is very little nutrition there and most people I know who practice bf'ing past that point it's down to once or twice a day...so no need to do it in public. (especially not with the kid standing on a chair...which also makes him look at first glance like he might be 8 years old or something instead of 4ish...)
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  • MedStudent13MedStudent13 member
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    I think the point that the lactation consultant made that we, as a society, that we have difficulty separating the 'intimate view' of a woman's anatony with the 'nurturing side' hits the nail on the head. And I said this on the other thread, that ironically the more modest or conservative women tend to have less of an issue with breastfeeding in public, and I think that is because they may have a more 'whole' view of women, as opposed to the 'oversexualized' culture.
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  • professorscienceprofessorscience member
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    In Response to Re:There was a thread about society's view of women...:[QUOTE]I think what bothers me about that picture is that it almost looks like it was meant to be salacious. The posing, facial expression, even the attire on both mom amp; kid just conspire to make the whole thing look bizarre. Posted by caitriona87[/QUOTE]

    Oh, I completely agree. Time really shot themselves in the foot with that cover. It's hard to take any stance seriously when you use such provocative photos.
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  • Resa77Resa77
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    Yeah ,they definitely tried to make it provacative, and that goes against what I think we're all saying here: that women's bodies need to be seen for the whole function, not just sexual. 

    Don't get me wrong: sexuality isn't wrong (a women can express her sexual side within the context of marriage).  It would be just as wrong to say that women's bodies are only to be used for child bearing/caring, and shouldn't be seen as sexual at all.  The problem is that society seems to have a hard time seeing a women as a WHOLE person.  Women can be sexual, nurturing, smart, and holy, all in one. 

     

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  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
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    Fr. Loya is a byzantine priest who does a lot of speaking about TOB, especially in iconography and art.

    At the TOB congress, he did a presentation on art vs porn--- he talked about how in artistic view of the female body-- the one that represent the beauty... uses a lot of arced lines and is focused on her action... makes you see the whole person.

    Porn on the other hand has sharp angles, and draws you to specific body parts.
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  • TeaForMeTeaForMe member
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    Ahh, this has been lighting up my facebook feed for the past couple days. The funny thing is, that the story is all about Attachment Parenting, yet APers (which I kind of consider myself to be) think the photo, headlines and story are ridiculous and give the wrong impression of AP. Even the headline "Are you Mom Enough?" gives the impression that APers are martyrs, they think they are better than others, etc and that not being AP means you're not good enough. NOT TRUE. I will tell you most if not all people who consider themselves AP (which, by the way, is not an all-or-nothing thing but rather a very, very wide spectrum based on the idea of essentially following your natural instincts of childcare) don't give a fig about how others raise their children. I certainly don't, as long as the child is happy, healthy and safe. Attachment Parenting is not about judging others, it's about doing what works for your own family. And that's not what the headline gets across.

    As for the picture, that doesn't help matters either. Yes, many attachment parents do extended nursing (which is kind of a misnomer anyway since the World Health Organization  and I believe Am. Assoc. of Pediatrics as well recommend breastfeeding for *at least* a year if not longer.) but no one I know does it in a sensationalized way like the cover. But showing a mom and 2-year-old snuggled cozily in a chair at home nursing doesn't have any shock value to it. And as others have mentioned, most of the older kids who are still nursing are really just nursing once or twice a day and usually at home rather than in public anyway.

    I know Time is trying to sell magazines and AP is kind of a hot topic right now but the photo is ridiculous.
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  • TeaForMeTeaForMe member
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    Oh yeah, I meant to post a link to this blog as well. It's about breastfeeding in public... written by a man. I thought it was pretty good. http://womenspeakout.wordpress.com/2012/05/10/breastfeeding-in-public/
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  • Resa77Resa77
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    Great link, thanks!

     

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