Unpopular Opinions

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I don't believe in prayer in public schools (any type of prayer - Christianity, Judaism, Islam).

I believe that if you aren't allowed to legally drink at your wedding, you should not be allowed to get married (although this isn't unpopular on this board).

I believe that you must pass a test before you're allowed to become a parent.
Posted by GreenPepperBurger[/QUOTE]

Agreed in regards to prayer. Separation of church and state. I also think that politicians should not be allowed to accept contributions from religious organizations.

I think the drinking one could be construed as unpopular on this board... given the congratulations and squealing to young ones who do get engaged.

Yes to passing a test. Then again, I am for depo on welfare recipients, so this is no surprise. Haha.

Hazel_B · August 2011

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[QUOTE]This could be a bad one... A lot of (NOT ALL) mothers who have children early seem to get stuck at the age when they had their child. Sometimes they have children early intentionally, and sometimes it is unintentional, but many mothers I know that had children young (19 and 15) are now in their 40's, 50's and 60's and act like 19 and 15 year olds. Obviously this does not happen for all, and I am not saying that no one should have kids young if they WANT to, but you should definitely be at a certain maturity level and sometimes that just comes with age. I'm just saying that I have seen evidence of the full-uterus-froze-my-maturity-level-in-time syndrome, and it really isn't pretty.
Posted by csousa1[/QUOTE]

I acutually agree with this. I was trying to figure out why somone I know is so completely different than I am in terms of maturity and responsibility and I think you nailed it.

motoLyn · August 2011

I actually disagree and support the death penalty. Our taxes go into running the prison system. Which is over crowded as it is. If a man's peers can deem his crime so horrible that his life is to be ended. Because of the over crowded prison system offenders are released back on to the streets in no time. At this point a solution can't be agreed upon by our government. It is were up to my FI he would have dropped them all off on an island with a brick each to let them fend for themselves.

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Agreed in regards to prayer. Separation of church and state. I also think that politicians should not be allowed to accept contributions from religious organizations. <strong>I think the drinking one could be construed as unpopular on this board... given the congratulations and squealing to young ones who do get engaged.</strong> Yes to passing a test. Then again, I am for depo on welfare recipients, so this is no surprise. Haha.
Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

I can <em>sort of</em> see someone getting engaged at 20 (which, to me, is the absolute youngest that anybody should get engaged, but only if you've been together for at least 3+ years), and getting married after turning 21. It's kind of hard to balance that line.

But I also confuse myself because I think the drinking age should be lowered to 18. If you're old enough to serve and possibly die for your country, then you should be allowed to have a drink.

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]This could be a bad one... A lot of (NOT ALL) mothers who have children early seem to get stuck at the age when they had their child. Sometimes they have children early intentionally, and sometimes it is unintentional, but many mothers I know that had children young (19 and 15) are now in their 40's, 50's and 60's and act like 19 and 15 year olds.

Obviously this does not happen for all, and I am not saying that no one should have kids young if they WANT to, but you should definitely be at a certain maturity level and sometimes that just comes with age. I'm just saying that I have seen evidence of the full-uterus-froze-my-maturity-level-in-time syndrome, and it really isn't pretty.
Posted by csousa1[/QUOTE]

I think it goes to having life experiences before settling down. I think it is irresponsible to INTENTIONALLY have kids when you are still a kid yourself. I think that it also speaks to sex ed in regards to those who get pregnant unintentionally. Yes, there are women who get pregnant on the pill. However, they are definitely in the minority when it comes to unintended pregnancies.

I hope I am frozen at 28. That would be awesome. Does this mean that it is appropriate to go back to my 28-year-old body when I am all done popping out my basketball team of children? Please say it is so.

Ohhh, UO, I am not against plastic surgery in many cases. Do some people take it too far? Obviously. However, I don't think that it should have such a stigma. I fully intend on having my boobs done when I am done having kids. I don't want to go bigger but I want them put back to where they were. I plan on working out and eating well to get my body back into shape as much as possible before going under the knife. However, I will have NO shame in having more work done to reverse some of the effects that pregnancy has had on my body. This could include lipo and a tummy tuck. DH and I joke that it is part of our 'kid fund.'

csousa1 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I agree with all of this wholeheartedly. And it's a constant internal battle for me on these boards since there are a LOT of young posters who are engaged/about to be engaged. I like them as posters, but I'm like HOLY CRAP you are young. Like Tiger, my parents got married when my mom was young (19...my dad was older) and they have been together 36 years. But the times were a LOT different back then and I don't think that works for most of the population these days. <strong> When I said that to the younger sister (age 19) of one of my friends, she told me I was just old and bitter. Thanks.
</strong>Posted by LivLeighton[/QUOTE]

And that would be a perfect example of being too immature to be engaged.

cu97tiger · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I actually disagree and support the death penalty. Our taxes go into running the prison system. Which is over crowded as it is. If a man's peers can deem his crime so horrible that his life is to be ended. Because of the over crowded prison system offenders are released back on to the streets in no time. At this point a solution can't be agreed upon by our government. <strong>It is were up to my FI he would have dropped them all off on an island with a brick each to let them fend for themselves.</strong>
Posted by motoLyn[/QUOTE]

<div>Ooh, I'm with the Danish Man! I wish we had a better alternative, but we don't. I don't think the man's peers should have any say in whether his life is ended or not, just whether his life intersects with theirs!</div><div>
</div><div>Mutley - I am for plastic surgery as well, within reason. Heidi Montague should need to back away from the knife. As soon as I pop out baby #1 (and #2 if we decide we must), I'll be making an appt with Dr. MoreBoobsPlease. FI would love if I did it before the wedding, but I don't want to take the chance that I can't breastfeed because of it. </div>

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I agree with all of this wholeheartedly. And it's a constant internal battle for me on these boards since there are a LOT of young posters who are engaged/about to be engaged. I like them as posters, but I'm like HOLY CRAP you are young.

Like Tiger, my parents got married when my mom was young (19...my dad was older) and they have been together 36 years. But the times were a LOT different back then and I don't think that works for most of the population these days.

When I said that to the younger sister (age 19) of one of my friends, she told me I was just old and bitter. Thanks.
Posted by LivLeighton[/QUOTE]

I think you can like someone as a person but not agree with a choice they are making. I do find it hard to be happy for posters who get engaged so young. I just think that it is naive to not realize all there is to experience in life before getting married, or even engaged. (And I am not talking about wh0ring around.) I think that you need to really grow as a person before you can have a great marriage. I think that getting engaged young does put a person at a disadvantage.

I think we've covered that I am old, bitter, and obviously suck in bed since I am on my 2nd kid. Plus I am a heartless b!tch. <a href="#" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', '9faded16-4670-4adf-965c-17695b5b063e', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));"> <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/15/6/9faded16-4670-4adf-965c-17695b5b063e.medium.gif" alt="" /></a>Woot!
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csousa1 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : I think it goes to having life experiences before settling down. I think it is irresponsible to INTENTIONALLY have kids when you are still a kid yourself. I think that it also speaks to sex ed in regards to those who get pregnant unintentionally. Yes, there are women who get pregnant on the pill. However, they are definitely in the minority when it comes to unintended pregnancies. I hope I am frozen at 28. That would be awesome. Does this mean that it is appropriate to go back to my 28-year-old body when I am all done popping out my basketball team of children? Please say it is so. Ohhh, UO, I am not against plastic surgery in many cases. Do some people take it too far? Obviously. However, I don't think that it should have such a stigma. I<strong> fully intend on having my boobs done when I am done having kids. I don't want to go bigger but I want them put back to where they were.</strong> I plan on working out and eating well to get my body back into shape as much as possible before going under the knife. However, I will have NO shame in having more work done to reverse some of the effects that pregnancy has had on my body. This could include lipo and a tummy tuck. DH and I joke that it is part of our 'kid fund.'
Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

Hahaha I love this. When I was younger, I used to think that, for me, plastic surgery was a no-no. Not that I disagreed with it across the board in every situation, rather that - just like abortion - it was just something that I would probably not do myself.

That was before I turned 25/26 and my DD's started to slide down my front ever so slightly. I am now all-aboard the post-kids breast augmentation train.

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Hahaha I love this. When I was younger, I used to think that, for me, plastic surgery was a no-no. Not that I disagreed with it across the board in every situation, rather that - just like abortion - it was just something that I would probably not do myself. That was before I turned 25/26 and my DD's started to slide down my front ever so slightly. I am now all-aboard the post-kids breast augmentation train.
Posted by csousa1[/QUOTE]

I was a 34C before my 1st pregnancy. I became a 36DD during pregnancy... and then breastfeeding increased them more. Now, they definitely don't have the umpf they once had. I'm thinking a perky 36D will be just right in the end. <a href="#" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', 'f748890f-7296-47f9-9130-b7c3c1e72d9c', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));"> <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/7/1/f748890f-7296-47f9-9130-b7c3c1e72d9c.medium.gif" alt="" /></a>
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jemmini6 · August 2011

I hate when people use what their parents or grandparents did however many years ago as justification for them doing it to. I.e "my parents got married at 18 and they are still happily married 40 years later, so I can get married at 18 too!" Well that's fantastic, but the world was a MUCH different place 40 years ago and people were actually ADULTS at 18.

FI's grandma was 16 when she got married, but that was also shortly after WWII in France and she'd already lived through enough to make her mature enough for marriage and starting a family. There's no way that most teens these days could even come close to saying that, so there's no way that most of them are even close to ready to getting married.

AudgiePodge · August 2011

I don't think the c word is a big deal.

alanna91 · August 2011

I think you should be able to pass a basic civic literacy test before you can vote. Name the three branches of govt and what they do. Who is the senator of your state? Congressman? Maybe a T/F section on current political events. Immigrants have to pass a test before they vote, but natural born citizens who don't know communism from capitalism get the right as soon as they turn 18.

According to a 2006 Zogby International poll: "only 24 percent of Americans could name two U.S. Supreme Court justices. 77 percent could name two of Snow White's seven dwarfs. A 2008 Intercollegiate Studies Institute poll found that less than half of surveyed college students knew the three branches of government."

I think voter fraud is a huge problem in this country. Something needs to be done about that immediatly. We have the technology, I'm sure...I just don't know how.

I believe in conscription. Whether it's military conscripcription or compulsary community service. The only way to get out of it would be if you're mentally or physically unfit to do so. I think it would make this country better. I know not everyone would be into military conscription, but really, what's wrong with compulsary community service? If we gave back to our communities as much as we took from them....

I believe in Human Rights. Gay marriage should be legal. People say it will void the sanctity of marriage? Well what about separation of church and state? People can get divorced as many times as they'd like but a loving homosexual couple can't get married once in most states. There are states that don't allow gay adoption. Anyone can give birth, but a homosexual couple can't adopt?!

I believe "The N Word" should never be used. Some may embrace it as a sign of moving on from old racisms, but that word carries a lot of hurt and hatred for others. It's not right. That word was used in the most derogatory sense "back then" and now people sing it in songs and use it as a greeting.

Those on welfare need to be checked in on more. There are families and people that actually need welfare, and then there are people who abuse it because they're too lazy to work. I know people on both sides of that equation.

I don't believe in Affirmative Action. For one, how is our society supposed to move on from prejudices when they're still in place with stuff like Affirmative Action? And then for minorities it's saying that they need affirmative action to succeed, which we know is untrue. Of course I grew up North and I've heard racism is still bad down South (ETA: not everywhere, but in some places) so my view is obviously biased. You know when applying for college, my classmates and I actually got advice to list our nationality as "Other" to have a better chance of acceptance or financial aid. How skewed is that?

ETA: I'm 19 and am firmly against the drinking age being lowered to 18. That's just ridiculous.

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions: ETA: I'm 19 and am firmly against the drinking age being lowered to 18. That's just ridiculous.
Posted by alanna91[/QUOTE]

Why? Do you think the age to join the military should be raised? Why can you buy a lottery ticket and a pack of cigarettes at 18, but not buy a 6-pack and gamble in a casino until you're 21?

csousa1 · August 2011

I think every bratty rich-b!tch privileged teenager that takes it for granted should be forced to work in the service industry for at least a year. Preferably more.

In fact, any teenager that takes anything for granted should be forced to do that.

I don't think parents should ever cover ALL of their child's costs (tuition, cell phone, car payment, insurance, rent, food, etc) past a certain age. Cover some of it, yes - even cover most of it, I don't care. But every child over 18 should have at least one bill they are paying themselves, and by the age of 16 every kid should have a part-time job and pay for some of their own stuff (clothes, nights out with friends, etc). Whether they "need" it or not. The only exception to this is a kid with a disability.

TheMutleys · August 2011

I think that the drinking age is the reason for so much irresponsible drinking in this country. I am all for having it lowered. In other countries where the drinking age is lower, they actually have LESS problems with alcohol.

Our kids will learn responsible drinking at home BEFORE they leave for college. Most of my friends that did not drink responsibly in college were the ones with the strictest parents. They were the ones that got black out drunk most weekends because they didn't know their limit.

alanna91 · August 2011

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[QUOTE] Why? Do you think the age to join the military should be raised? Why can you buy a lottery ticket and a pack of cigarettes at 18, but not buy a 6-pack and gamble in a casino until you're 21?
Posted by GreenPepperBurger[/QUOTE]

Why not? You join the military at 18 but you're trained and educated with mature and responsible adults. You have to adhere to a strict code of conduct. Your superiors know that at eighteen you're still a kid and they keep an eye on you.
If the drinking age was lowered to eighteen, kids would be able to go out to the bar and get sh**faced. You're still in highschool when you're eighteen, I just don't think you should be able to drink at that time.
This is another thing I'm very biased on though. I grew up around barely functioning alcoholics so I'm not to keen on alcohol, although I know that there are people out there that are able to drink responsibly.

You can buy a lottery ticket at 18 because the government get's revenue from it. I don't know why in casinos you have to be 21, but that's probably because they think that extra three years gives you enough maturity to not go and blow all your money in one sitting.

Ollie08 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I agree with drug testing for welfare. Florida already does. <a href="http://www.theroot.com/buzz/98-welfare-applicants-pass-drug-test" rel='nofollow'>http://www.theroot.com/buzz/98-welfare-applicants-pass-drug-test</a>
Posted by AudgiePodge[/QUOTE]

You mean we finally did something progressive?

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

Regardless of the legal drinking age, most kids will drink while they are still in high school, and thus the drinking becomes hidden, secretive, and unregulated. Perhaps if some sort of policy were implemented to regulate drinking in those under 21 (like what, I don't know), there would be less alcohol-related accidents and drunk driving.

Of course, just because you're over 21 and legally allowed to drink doesn't automatically mean you're responsible with your alcohol, either.

alanna91 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I think that the drinking age is the reason for so much irresponsible drinking in this country. I am all for having it lowered. <strong>In other countries where the drinking age is lower, they actually have LESS problems with alcohol. </strong> Our kids will learn responsible drinking at home BEFORE they leave for college. Most of my friends that did not drink responsibly in college were the ones with the strictest parents. They were the ones that got black out drunk most weekends because they didn't know their limit.
Posted by TheMutleys[/QUOTE]

I can agree with that, but it would take at the least a generation to implement that successfully. If the drinking age was lowered tomorrow there would be chaos. It would take time before the excitement of a lower drinking age would settle and it would become old news and just "how it is".

TheMutleys · August 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Unpopular Opinions : Why not? You join the military at 18 but you're trained and educated with mature and responsible adults. You have to adhere to a strict code of conduct. Your superiors know that at eighteen you're still a kid and they keep an eye on you. If the drinking age was lowered to eighteen, kids would be able to go out to the bar and get sh**faced. You're still in highschool when you're eighteen, I just don't think you should be able to drink at that time. This is another thing I'm very biased on though. I grew up around barely functioning alcoholics so I'm not to keen on alcohol, although I know that there are people out there that are able to drink responsibly. You can buy a lottery ticket at 18 because the government get's revenue from it. I don't know why in casinos you have to be 21, but that's probably because they think that extra three years gives you enough maturity to not go and blow all your money in one sitting.
Posted by alanna91[/QUOTE]

You don't see an inconsistency with being able to die for your country but not being able to drink a beer?

Going out to bar and getting sh!t-faced can happen at any age. High school kids get alcohol and have parties anyways. It isn't like being underage stops any of that.

Ollie08 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I think what colleges (including my expensive private college from which I have two degrees) are teaching these days is not useful to our society. I have a minor in philosophy forfuckssake. What the hell good is that doing me? My degree in developmental psych wouldn't let me do ANYTHING, hence why I went forward to get a master's in the field. I think that "liberal arts" needs to stop meaning a course in English, a course in science, a course in philosophy. <strong>It should be:
- Personal Finance: How Not to Completely F*ck Up Your Life By Getting into Debt
- Communication: How to Interact with Other Human Beings and Not Be a Douche
- Computers: Just Because You Know How To Facebook Doesn't Mean You Know Fuckall About Programs That Will Help You with Employment
- Life Skills: How to Wash Your Laundry when Mommy Won't Do It Anymore; How to Do Basic Repair Work So You Don't Have to Call Your Daddy; etc.</strong>
Posted by LivLeighton[/QUOTE]

Yes yes yes! How about making the degrees a little more relevant to life now...

jemmini6 · August 2011

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[QUOTE]I think every bratty rich-b!tch privileged teenager that takes it for granted should be forced to work in the service industry for at least a year. Preferably more. In fact, any teenager that takes anything for granted should be forced to do that. I don't think parents should ever cover ALL of their child's costs (tuition, cell phone, car payment, insurance, rent, food, etc) past a certain age. Cover some of it, yes - even cover most of it, I don't care. But every child over 18 should have at least one bill they are paying themselves, and by the age of 16 every kid should have a part-time job and pay for some of their own stuff (clothes, nights out with friends, etc). Whether they "need" it or not. The only exception to this is a kid with a disability.
Posted by csousa1[/QUOTE]

I agree 1000%. I keep telling my boss this, his son just started college at the local university where it's costing my boss $20K per year to send him there. His son acts like it's my boss' responsibility to pay for it and that it's now party time on daddy's money.

I paid for everything myself since I was 16, which I think is a big part of the reason that I'm ready to get married at 24 and some of my college friends are still stuck on the college lifestyle (even though we graduated a few years ago).

The best idea I've heard is that all kids should be required to pay for their own college (ie, their own savings, scholarships, or taking out their own loans) and then IF they get good grades, etc, then the parents help them pay it back. So if you screw around and fail out, that's YOUR money that you just wasted.

(also, I think money management/credit classes should be mandatory in high school. I'm not advocating that kids take out a bunch of loans that they don't understand the reprocussions of)

TheMutleys · August 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_unpopular-opinions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:84ab5f9d-0bda-40dc-915d-c8f717b93b81Post:70f967e4-a90c-4e9b-9171-a5734cf8c038">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]I think what colleges (including my expensive private college from which I have two degrees) are teaching these days is not useful to our society. I have a minor in philosophy forfuckssake. What the hell good is that doing me? My degree in developmental psych wouldn't let me do ANYTHING, hence why I went forward to get a master's in the field. I think that "liberal arts" needs to stop meaning a course in English, a course in science, a course in philosophy. It should be: - Personal Finance: How Not to Completely F*ck Up Your Life By Getting into Debt - Communication: How to Interact with Other Human Beings and Not Be a Douche - Computers: Just Because You Know How To Facebook Doesn't Mean You Know Fuckall About Programs That Will Help You with Employment - Life Skills: How to Wash Your Laundry when Mommy Won't Do It Anymore; How to Do Basic Repair Work So You Don't Have to Call Your Daddy; etc.
Posted by LivLeighton[/QUOTE]

TELL ME ABOUT IT!

My parents spent a sh!t ton of money for my brother's private university degree in PHILOSOPHY. Ugh. And now, my dad is all pissed that he is living at home and doesn't have a job. Shocking in this economy, really. <a href="#" title="Click to view a larger photo" onclick="return gSiteLife.LoadForumPage('ForumImage', 'plckPhotoId', '80d26be7-0a1f-4776-ade3-c662f020c887', 'plckRedirectUrl', gSiteLife.EscapeValue(window.location.href));"> <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/images/store/0/13/80d26be7-0a1f-4776-ade3-c662f020c887.medium.gif" alt="" /></a>

Then again, I think that the plethora of technical 'universities' out there shouldn't be allowed to call themselves universities.

I am also an education snob and think that online universities that lack a brick & mortar school are jokes.

alanna91 · August 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_unpopular-opinions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:84ab5f9d-0bda-40dc-915d-c8f717b93b81Post:b14a13c4-6c40-4dab-925b-1a4e9f97abad">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]Regardless of the legal drinking age, most kids will drink while they are still in high school, and thus the drinking becomes hidden, secretive, and unregulated.<strong> Perhaps if some sort of policy were implemented to regulate drinking in those under 21 (like what, I don't know), there would be less alcohol-related accidents and drunk driving</strong>. Of course, just because you're over 21 and legally allowed to drink doesn't automatically mean you're responsible with your alcohol, either.
Posted by GreenPepperBurger[/QUOTE]

I agree with that. A friend of mine from Ohio says that in her state you're allowed to drink with your parents supervision. That's something I can almost back up...but then there's the grey area of whether or not the parents are responsible themselves.

GreenPepperBurger · August 2011

One of my friends is getting a degree in English/Psychology, but she got to make up a name for it: The Human Condition. How the hell does a "B.A. in the Human Condition" look on a resume?

thejucheidea · August 2011

... there is no way that I could post every unpopular opinion I have on here. It would simply overload the board.

TheMutleys · August 2011

I also don't believe that everyone should go to college. I think that many teenagers are forced into going because it what they are supposed to do. I don't believe that everyone is prepared for college academically. There shouldn't be allowances for those that are not prepared. I think that this problem starts in elementary school and needs to be addressed, but the solution is not to send unprepared students to college.

[Deleted User] · August 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_unpopular-opinions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:84ab5f9d-0bda-40dc-915d-c8f717b93b81Post:70f967e4-a90c-4e9b-9171-a5734cf8c038">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]I think what colleges (including my expensive private college from which I have two degrees) are teaching these days is not useful to our society. I have a minor in philosophy forfuckssake. What the hell good is that doing me? My degree in developmental psych wouldn't let me do ANYTHING, hence why I went forward to get a master's in the field. I think that "liberal arts" needs to stop meaning a course in English, a course in science, a course in philosophy. It should be: - <strong>Personal Finance: How Not to Completely F*ck Up Your Life By Getting into Debt - Communication: How to Interact with Other Human Beings and Not Be a Douche - Computers: Just Because You Know How To Facebook Doesn't Mean You Know Fuckall About Programs That Will Help You with Employment - Life Skills: How to Wash Your Laundry when Mommy Won't Do It Anymore; How to Do Basic Repair Work So You Don't Have to Call Your Daddy; etc.</strong>
Posted by LivLeighton[/QUOTE]

yes!!! my brother couldn't even address an envelope or write a check when he started college.

as Elle would say, siriusly?? ;)

I really think life skills courses should be mandatory for freshman year of college, and also in high school. kids do not know so many basic things about money management, time management, how to hold a job, etc. this would be a wonderful idea!

TheMutleys · August 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_unpopular-opinions?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:84ab5f9d-0bda-40dc-915d-c8f717b93b81Post:103c53b4-2ad5-4f1c-8fe7-5ccb0805b05a">Re: Unpopular Opinions</a>:
[QUOTE]... there is no way that I could post every unpopular opinion I have on here. It would simply overload the board.
Posted by ahstillwell[/QUOTE]

Post a couple at least. I promise that MY head won't explode. I cannot promise the same for the more delicate souls on this board.

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