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Feeling a little down... Negativity toward dress

I bought my dress two weeks ago today. I absolutely love it and can't wait for it to come in toward the end of July. It is perfect for me and my mom and I both loved it so much. She told me that it is 100% "me" and she wouldn't change a thing about it.

I never wanted a bright white dress because it always looked so stark to me. I wanted something softer. So, I ended up with Allure C243 in ivory/cafe. Many have said that Allure's ivory is one of the lightest they've seen, and it does look "off white" to me and the cafe color is not dark, but is darker than the lace and gives it a bit of contrast, which I love. The color seems very vintage to me. Both my mom and I love it. We briefly thought about ordering ivory/ivory, but just loved it the way it was on the sample with the cafe, so we ordered it just the same.

I know I was taking a risk telling/showing people what I was ordering because others may not like it as much as I do. Still, I wanted to include my family and I'm so excited about it, so I have shared it with some of my important family members.

This weekend, I was visiting my family for my little sister's birthday. My mom brought out her wedding dress and offered me the lace from it for her veil. Super sweet! My grandmother (mom's mom) had the thought to also bring hers to my sister's party so that afterwards we could see if there's anything I could use from it as well. Both sides of the family were at my sister's party and when my grandmother brought out her dress (it was a lovely light champagne satin with beaded lace embroidery on the front and a beaded neckline) my granny (dad's mom) was surprised by the color. My grandmother explained that she got it in the city on sale as a sample and that it was cheap and she liked it, so she took it home. My family is very practical and my mother picked her dress much the same way (it was $150 off the rack). I thought the color was beautiful and mentioned that it was somewhat similar to the dress I got in that it was slightly darker than typical. My granny made a somewhat snarky comment like "oh, it's not WHITE then...". No, it's not white.

My family is very religious and conservative and I still think that my granny holds to the thought that pure brides wear white and that if I don't I'll be judged. Or maybe it's more that she will be judged. I don't know.

My mom has assured me that she still loves my dress, even (and especially) the color and that she knows I do too. She has told me to ignore my granny since she will be negative about everything anyway. My granny is one that if it doesn't go the way she thinks it should, it's wrong. I'm sure I'll be doing many things "wrong". My mom says not to let it get to me and that the wedding I'm planning reflects me and Fi well and will be beautiful. She also mentioned that my dad, my mom, and my grandmother would not let me do anything that was truly distasteful, regardless of if my granny seems to think it is. My mom has been holding back many wedding details just to minimize the negativity. It's just how my granny is.

I know my mom is right. I'm just having a hard time coming to grips that someone I care about doesn't like my dress choice. Everyone else loves it (or at least has had the sense to tell me they love it). I guess it doesn't matter either way. I love my dress and I wouldn't change it for another even if I could.

I just wanted to get it out because I know other brides here may understand and relate with similar experiences of their own. Many have it much worse from family than I have gotten so far. I'm thankful for that, but can't help but feel a little down.

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Re: Feeling a little down... Negativity toward dress

  • My dress was ivory, not pure white. In part, that's because my dress was my aunt's, and it was 45 years old. But even if I had worn a brand-new dress, I wouldn't have chosen stark white, because I'm very fair skinned, and stark-white looks terrible on me.

    It sounds like your mother is right -- your grandmother is always going to be negative about things. So (a) tune her out and (b) stop talking to her about the wedding. She can't be negative if she doesn't have anything to go on. 

    Some people (your grandmother, my DH's grandmother) take enormous joy in making other people miserable. They feed on that misery and negativity. Don't feed their need. Starve them by not talking to them.

    I did this with DH's grandmother while planning our wedding and it drove her crazy.
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
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    Pure white wedding dresses became popular when Queen Victoria wore one way back in the day. It caught on as another way for the upper class to show they had money, because a pure white dress would easily get stained and could only be worn once. It was a status symbol to show they had money to waste on a dress that was only worn once. White has nothing to do with virginity, otherwise the Virgin Mary would be shown in white. Blue is the traditional color of virginity.

    The next time someone says something about your dress indicating your "purity" let them know that pure white wedding dresses are a symbol of vanity and greed due to it's origins, you and would never want to associate your wedding with such deadly sins.
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  • my dress was considered "light gold" by Maggie Sottero.  It was all lace and the light gold under the ivory lace really made the detail pop.  I got a little nervous after ordering it, for the same reasons you are (although no one said anything about it to me), but in the end, I'm so happy with my choice!  I am very fair skinned, and the white just didn't look good on me.  Stand by your choice, come your wedding day, no one will notice anything but how gorgeous you look!
  • She's been negative about things before. In fact, there was a period last year that my family stopped talking to her altogether because she and my mom had a disagreement and when my granny brought my dad into it, he sided with his wife over his mother. It infuriated her and made him an awful son and she made all sorts of awful comments about my mother. My dad is normally very placid, but he was so mad at her then. I don't think he talked to his mother for more than 4 months.

    All of my family lives in the same small town. They all go to the same church. We have both sides of the family over frequently for lunches after church or parties. I loved growing up that way, having both grandmothers close and nearby. Now, I'm somewhat grateful for living 4 hours away so that I don't have to deal with the drama. I feel bad for my mom, though. She's had 28 years of dealing with granny, so I know she'll be okay.

    @HisGirlFriday13 - I know your DH's grandmother was truly awful. Your horror stories (I've read a few) are so much worse than this.

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  • @BMoreBride6 - I'm very fair skinned also. I went into dress shopping knowing that I didn't want white, so I didn't buy white. I think that the softer, somewhat darker color will look better on my very pale skin too.

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    "They say there's no such place... as Paradise. Even if you search to the ends of the Earth, there's nothing there. No matter how far you walk, it's always the same road. It just goes on and on. But, in spite of that... Why am I so driven to find it? A voice calls to me... It says, 'Search for Paradise.' " - Kiba, Wolf's Rain

  • School granny in the TRUE background of white wedding dresses and then keep her out of details from here on out.  Let it roll off your back.  You love your dress and that is what matters.
  • I don't like bright white dresses. I think they are too harsh on the eyes and it will not look good against my skin tone. I plan to pick what I love and I couldn't care less what other people think. The purity/white tradition is very outdated. Don't worry about Granny. Some older people are just very traditional and conservative. I'm sure she'll still be happy for you in your Ivory/cafe dress.

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  • ElcaBElcaB member
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    Boo. I'm sorry she had a less-than-stellar reaction. I completely understand how it feels to have something shot down by someone whose opinion you value. 

    Personally, I prefer ivory gowns myself. I'm a sinner either way, so I might as well be one who wears a color that compliments her skin tone. 
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  • @ElcaB - Exactly!

    It's funny because if the dress was actually pure white, I'm sure she would have questioned my "right" to wear it (from a purity standpoint). Can't win!!! I'd rather not have that discussion with my family, so maybe I actually dodged a bullet by going with a non-white dress.

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    "They say there's no such place... as Paradise. Even if you search to the ends of the Earth, there's nothing there. No matter how far you walk, it's always the same road. It just goes on and on. But, in spite of that... Why am I so driven to find it? A voice calls to me... It says, 'Search for Paradise.' " - Kiba, Wolf's Rain

  • Ivory is simply a shade of white. The snow white we know today didn't exist in fabrics until the 20th century technology made it possible,
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  • I'm with a lot of PPs, I'm fair skinned and don't do white. 

    My dress was also off-white, but similar @HisGirlFriday13, I wore my mother's dress that was 50 years old.  It had yellowed horribly.  Though we got it cleaned, it still ended up ivory/off white.

    If you love your dress, that is what matters.  If granny is always a Negative Nancy - than let her be one.  Keep her out of the details and go on with your planning.  If she asks about anything tell her you haven't finalized anything yet or that you want it to be a surprise.  Then bean dip her.

     

  • phiraphira member
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    You're totally right that you won't be able to win with granny. And that's 100% okay. You have a GORGEOUS dress you love.

    And yeah, if you really wanted to wear the color symbolizing purity, get yourself in a blue dress ;D
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  • @phira - Thank you.

    I don't care if it represents purity or not. That's just what I know my granny was thinking of. As ElcaB said, I'm a sinner anyway, so it doesn't matter. I might as well wear what I like. I'll be criticized for it either way.

    Although, blue is my favorite color ;)

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    "They say there's no such place... as Paradise. Even if you search to the ends of the Earth, there's nothing there. No matter how far you walk, it's always the same road. It just goes on and on. But, in spite of that... Why am I so driven to find it? A voice calls to me... It says, 'Search for Paradise.' " - Kiba, Wolf's Rain

  • How can anyone say anything bad about your dress.  It is freaking gorgeous!!!

    Don't worry about what anyone says.  You love your dress and that is all that matters.  Tell granny to shut it.

  • <-----not wearing white, not apologizing for it.

    Smile at granny, tell her you love your dress, and move on. You found one you love - so LOVE that! Forget what others say - I'm sure you'll look amazing!
  • Granny will most likely forget her opinion when she sees how lovely you look in your dress. Some grannies say outrageous things just to get attention. Ignore her remarks.
                       
  • Your dress sounds perfect. And your Granny sounds like she's got too much time on her hands if this is what she feels the need to focus on.

    My dress is what Oleg Cassini calls "sand." It's off-white. I'm pasty pale and white just wasn't going to work.

    Enjoy your dress and stop giving Granny the benefit of wedding details!
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