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FMIL bad-mouthing FFIL

FMIL and her 1st husband divorced when the boys were in high school (a long, long time ago). From what I understand, it was a pretty bad situation. FFIL has been married 6 times total, his most recent wife is very pleasant, they had the wedding this past May. FMIL was remarried once and divorced again several years ago.

FI did not get along with FFIL for quite some time. He has been reconciling this for the past year and half or so (as long as I have known him). We see FMIL all the time, and we arevnow trying to see FFIL and his wife more often than we were. They have all been at family parties simultaneously and are always cordial.

We have been told that  his parents are still going to pool together and pay for our RD, which is generous of them and I am thankful for that.

A lot of times, when it is just FMIL and I, if FFIL is brought up (usually by her), she tells me all these nasty stories about him and what he did to her, most of it having to do with getting screwed out of money in the divorce. I don't really know if she is trying to accomplish something by telling me these things, but she is definitely not shy about throwing him under the bus, so to speak.

For awhile, I kind of was like "whoa, what a jerk", but kept it to myself and never voiced that opinion. But, after having spent more time around him, he's not a bad guy. Last time my parents were in town, they went to dinner with him and his wife and told me they had a very nice time. I understand he could have done some crappy things in the past, but if that were the case, it seems to be behind him.

When FMIL does this, it puts me in a bit of an awkward spot. I obviously am not going to agree with her and sit there and rag on his dad. Then I feel bad because FI doesn't know she's saying these things, and I don't know if it would bother him or not. I'm certain she also voices these things to him. He knows his dad was a selfish prick, he's told this to me before, but I don't know that he'd be appreciative of what she says to me.

Usually I just listen to what she says and brush it off without making a real reponse. Is there something I should say to her, or just let her vent?

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  • I'd probably do what you're doing, for the most part.  I might mention to FI that sometimes his mother likes to vent about her history with his dad, just so that he's aware, but I wouldn't get into details.  If he asks for deets, I'd say I wasn't trying to memorize the stories, and that he should just talk to her about it.
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  • If you feel weird or uncomfortable with these convos do A) speak with her directly, "I understand you two had your problems in the past, but I'm excited about the wonderful future I'm going to have with your son. Can we focus on more positive subject please?" or B) ask your FI to talk to his mom about it and have him repeat point A
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  • Just mention it to your FI so he is aware of it and so that he is not caught off guard at some point.

    Unless you knew (and I am assuming you will not) the details of the divorce, it is essentially her word against his and vice versa. There are 2 sides to every story, ya know?
  • Nod politely at the appropriate spots and ignore it, but do tell FI about it.

    If you listened to my mom, dad never paid enough or on time.  I happen to know the payments were auto paid from his pay checks and when I turned 18 he never notified the courts, so he paid for two kids five years longer than he needed to.

    Every side has it's own perception of events.  Things may not be as bad as she is telling you they were.
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  • Thanks ladies, I will just continue on with her like I have, and let FI know it gets mentioned from time to time.
  • Ditto the others, and your kid is adorable.  
  • This is probably long dead, but I'll just throw in that while my FILs are happily married and I love FMIL, she can be, well, a bit definite in her opinions on certain family members (especially on FFIL's side), and since she likes me, she shares those opinions with me quite frequently. And when she and FI are together, lots and lots of opinion-sharing goes on. Basically I listen politely, laugh sometimes, don't commit myself to anything, and in the meantime do my best to make sure that most of these strong opinions don't play out as etiquette breaches at our wedding. For the most part I've been pretty successful.

    I kind of think that being deferential is step one to having a good relationship with your in-laws, and while it's probably best if you listen politely to her, you don't have to join in.
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  • In Response to Re: FMIL bad-mouthing FFIL: Ditto the others, and your kid is adorable.   Posted by ohwhynot Thanks! He's pretty cute, and doesn't cry much, so we figured we'd keep him :) Thanks to all for the advice.
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