unpopular opinions?

laladypoet · September 2010

or just opinions?
I'm bored.

and I'll go first. it annoys me when christian people say one of the reasons they dislike islam is how women are treated. cause the christian bible isn't exaclty pro "girl power."

mandapanda78 · September 2010

This is more of an "I judge" but I was a little disturbed by a friend who is 7 months pregnant telling me she drinks 3-4 cups of coffee a day.

Mrs.B6302007 · September 2010

I think that families who go green should be commended, but some go too far. I'm trying to eliminate as many paper and disposable products as possible, but I draw the line at toilet paper. Yes, I use cloth diapers and cloth wipes but I have no desire to launder adult poop on washcloths.

kate51485 · September 2010

If any of your opinions have to do with television coverage, apparently you can now take hostages to proclaim your dissatisfaction...

http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/01/police-reports-of-armed-man-at-discovery-channel-headquarters/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1

Edit for better link and:
See also http://io9.com/5627708/gunman-in-discovery-tv-building-demands-better-programming-from-the-science-network

AmoroAgain · September 2010

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[QUOTE]or just opinions? I'm bored. and I'll go first. it annoys me when christian people say one of the reasons they dislike islam is how women are treated. cause the christian bible isn't exaclty pro "girl power."
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]
Next time you hear someone say that, let them know that things such as female subjugation, burqa's and niab's are actually a male thing that they invented to force women into being inferior. No where in the Quran does it say that women are required to do anything other than dress modestly. Also, it gives women full rights in marriage, inheritance, marriage and divorce. Any deviation from the rules set out in the Quran are again, interpretations of men; not the actuality of the religious text.

AND, the final neener neener is that Mary, the mother of Jesus, is mentioned more often, and is more revered in the Quran than she is in the Bible.

Bubbalub · September 2010

I know that tourism brings lots of money to my city but I freaking HATE tourist drivers. Get out of my way while you meander along looking for a parking space or that street you probably missed a couple blocks back. The right lane is NOT a stopping lane for looking at your map and figuring out where you are. ARGH!

laladypoet · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:bb835dee-f2d6-4622-aa55-5dd85a463d1e">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to unpopular opinions? : Next time you hear someone say that, let them know that things such as female subjugation, burqa's and niab's are actually a male thing that they invented to force women into being inferior. No where in the Quran does it say that women are required to do anything other than dress modestly. Also, it gives women full rights in marriage, inheritance, marriage and divorce. Any deviation from the rules set out in the Quran are again, interpretations of men; not the actuality of the religious text. AND, the final neener neener is that Mary, the mother of Jesus, is mentioned more often, and is more revered in the Quran than she is in the Bible.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]
exactly.
in theory, if christian husbands wanted their wives to wear burqas, and wives are supposed to "obey," wives would "have" to.

laladypoet · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:38cdb581-ec37-4f05-82b1-153b4f48f665">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]I got one. I just found out from a coworker that it is now illegal to spank your child in Canada. I find that ridiculous.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]
I think that's ridic also.

mandapanda78 · September 2010

kate#s I saw that. Ca-razy.

laladypoet · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:2748d806-c886-4797-b598-227da3256598">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]If any of your opinions have to do with television coverage, apparently you can now take hostages to proclaim your dissatisfaction... <a href="http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/01/police-reports-of-armed-man-at-discovery-channel-headquarters/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1" rel="nofollow">http://news.blogs.cnn.com/2010/09/01/police-reports-of-armed-man-at-discovery-channel-headquarters/?hpt=T1&iref=BN1</a> Edit for better link and: See also <a href="http://io9.com/5627708/gunman-in-discovery-tv-building-demands-better-programming-from-the-science-network" rel="nofollow">http://io9.com/5627708/gunman-in-discovery-tv-building-demands-better-programming-from-the-science-network</a>
Posted by kate51485[/QUOTE]
huh. right to bear arms at it's finest.

Celles · September 2010

I like this comment on the article you linked, Kate.

"Man, I hate it when terrorists ruin really good messages by being terrorists."

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

I DO think New Yorkers (and DCers) "own" 9/11 more than the rest of the country. There's a huge difference between knowing a dozen people who were trapped in the buildings and not knowing if they were alive or dead for days, living in what essentially looked like a war zone, and being scared for your life that another attack would come... and seeing it on TV and thinking it's all super sad. And maybe having your flights canceled.

Yeah, I knew someone who died on 9/11. But I was pretty cozy on my college campus, hundreds of miles away from lower Manhattan. My life was in no way in jeopardy. I give all the credit in the world to people who actually lives through that.

laladypoet · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:1a28f9fe-cd68-440c-88c6-06ee8eb83498">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]I DO think New Yorkers (and DCers) "own" 9/11 more than the rest of the country. There's a huge difference between knowing a dozen people who were trapped in the buildings and not knowing if they were alive or dead for days, living in what essentially looked like a war zone, and being scared for your life that another attack would come... and seeing it on TV and thinking it's all super sad. And maybe having your flights canceled. Yeah, I knew someone who died on 9/11. But I was pretty cozy on my college campus, hundreds of miles away from lower Manhattan. My life was in no way in jeopardy. I give all the credit in the world to people who actually lives through that.
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
see, ok. I understand if you lived in NYC and lost someone that day, you feel a more emotional tie. but the attack was MEANT to be on America as a whole. and as a whole, we went to war. if DC and NYC "own" 9/11, then only "their" soldiers should've gone.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

PS, Amoro is right. Muslim women had much more freedom in marriage, divorce, inheritance and property ownership than women in Victorian England or America. And there's nothing about female dress in the Quran. Actually, the Quran also says that women should be educated in order to benefit the family (their children's education). There's a good book called "Beyond the Veil" about that.

Moral of the story: the Taliban are a bunch of thugs who don't know a lot about "real" Islam.

shellydiane820 · September 2010

I hate everything Julia Roberts does. Except Steel Magnolias, but she's not even my favorite in that.

vegasgroom · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:38cdb581-ec37-4f05-82b1-153b4f48f665">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]I got one. I just found out from a coworker that it is now illegal to spank your child in Canada. I find that ridiculous.
Posted by cfaszews25[/QUOTE]

Where's the news on that? Only thing I can find is a supreme court ruling in 2004 that spanking was legal, upholding an appeals court decision saying the same thing.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : see, ok. I understand if you lived in NYC and lost someone that day, you feel a more emotional tie. but the attack was MEANT to be on America as a whole. and as a whole, we went to war. if DC and NYC "own" 9/11, then only "their" soldiers should've gone.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

Yeah, I get that. I just dislike when people politicize 9/11 when they live in, say, Seattle and have no relatives in the military whatsoever.

It's especially fun when it's something like the "mosque" issue where many New Yorkers and like, "Um, okay, that's fine." Or when most New Yorkers vote for a president who wants to stop the war.

laladypoet · September 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : haven't seen it, since i'd already given up on qt when that came out.
Posted by daffodil_jill[/QUOTE]
oh daff.
well, at least we both hate DMB.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:52884bac-bade-4e3a-90b7-7e09baf47924">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : how do you mean, "politicize"?
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

Use it for their own political agenda. Currently, the issue of the "ground zero mosque" comes to mind. Most of the protesters aren't New Yorkers. They bus in from elsewhere.

Or pretty much anyone who uses 9/11 victims or families and claims that what they want is what "they" would have wanted. You didn't know them and I hardly doubt 3,000 people would be in consensus over any issue.

AmoroAgain · September 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : I'm usually eye to eye with you, Mery, but I don't think I understand this last point.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]
I don't get it either.

laladypoet · September 2010

I guess I'm confused. do you mean politicians? or just anyone who has an opinon about goings-on related to 9/11 who didn't live in NYC or DC?

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : I'm usually eye to eye with you, Mery, but I don't think I understand this last point.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

I think it was more of an issue in 2004. The Republican platform was more along the lines of keeping America safe from terrorists during that election, using proof like the fact they had passed the Patriot Act and whatnot. And then a vast majority of voters in NY and DC voted for Kerry. So they clearly didn't believe that Republicans were doing anything to prevent another attack, or there were other issues that were more important to them.

TurtlesAllTheWayDown · September 2010

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[QUOTE]I guess I'm confused. do you mean politicians? or just anyone who has an opinon about goings-on related to 9/11 who didn't live in NYC or DC?
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

Anyone can have an opinion. But in general I mean people who assume they knew <em>exactly what it was like</em> and therefore US policy should be x, y and z. So yeah, I would say anyone.

kate51485 · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:634c3de8-ea1c-490f-b89f-a1d1588ad7d3">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : see, ok. I understand if you lived in NYC and lost someone that day, you feel a more emotional tie. but the attack was MEANT to be on America as a whole. and as a whole, we went to war. if DC and NYC "own" 9/11, then only "their" soldiers should've gone.
Posted by laladypoet[/QUOTE]

<3

Just because I worked in the Pentagon and sat every day in an office that had been destroyed, I have never once felt like I had any more stake in "owning" the tragedy than anyone else, anywhere else.

laladypoet · September 2010

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : I think it was more of an issue in 2004. The Republican platform was more along the lines of keeping America safe from terrorists during that election, using proof like the fact they had passed the Patriot Act and whatnot. And then a vast majority of voters in NY and DC voted for Kerry. <strong>So they clearly didn't believe that Republicans were doing anything to prevent another attack, or there were other issues that were more important to them.</strong>
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]
how does that matter? a future attack wouldn't necessarily be in NYC or DC.

AmoroAgain · September 2010

Ah, I get it. People who use it for their own means, instead of letting it be the event that it was. Imposing their viewpoint on it, as opposed to respecting the people's right to decide themselves.

laladypoet · September 2010

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[QUOTE]Ah, I get it. People who use it for their own means, instead of letting it be the event that it was. Imposing their viewpoint on it, as opposed to respecting the people's right to decide themselves.
Posted by AmoroAgain[/QUOTE]
ok, that makes more sense. I had no idea where mery was going.

AmoroAgain · September 2010

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[QUOTE]My unpopular opinion today is that I really think pie is gross. In fact, I dislike almost any cooked fruit. We were at a bbq with some of our friends the other night, and we all brought a part of the meal. Dessert was pie. I don't expect them to bring something other than pie, I'm confident they didn't even know I dislike pie, but once I tell you, "No, I'm good, thanks though." Stop trying to shove it down my throat. I don't like pie.
Posted by mrs.jesse[/QUOTE]
First, I think you're weird. BEYOND weird. But that sucks they wouldn't drop it.

Celles · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:d5769f8a-3d33-46a2-ad27-c75074cdc4e8">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : I think it was more of an issue in 2004. The Republican platform was more along the lines of keeping America safe from terrorists during that election, using proof like the fact they had passed the Patriot Act and whatnot. And then a vast majority of voters in NY and DC voted for Kerry. <strong>So they clearly didn't believe that Republicans were doing anything to prevent another attack, or there were other issues that were more important to them.</strong>
Posted by msmerymac[/QUOTE]

I'm not 100% sure about DC, but NY is a blue state through and through. The fact that they voted for Kerry doesn't really say anything about 9/11 on its own.

mandapanda78 · September 2010

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_unpopular-opinions-7?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:fade0848-bd76-4130-94f7-582a263d78a4Post:1dfe28fd-1791-415a-a8e4-c87b62d8d499">Re: unpopular opinions?</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: unpopular opinions? : I'm not 100% sure about DC, but NY is a blue state through and through. The fact that they voted for Kerry doesn't really say anything about 9/11 on its own.
Posted by Celles[/QUOTE]

<div>DC is so blue it makes the ocean look pink. </div>

georgia_bride09 · September 2010

If DC and NY "own" 9/11, then should we (the general public) also not bother caring about NOLA, Haiti, Iraq, etc since we "weren't there"? That logic makes no sense.

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