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Parents and a budget

I am having the most difficult time explaining to my parents the necessity of a budget for the wedding. They are paying for a majority of it, with my FILs picking up the tab for our band and photographer. 

I am essentially doing all of the planning on my own. I was told to do the initial research, narrow it down, and then present the final options to my parents once all of the legwork is out of the way. I am fine with that, except for one issue. I have no idea where to stay budget-wise. 

I was never given a total budget or a breakdown of a budget for what my parents were ok with spending. I've tried to approach them several times, explaining that I at least need a price range to work in or else I will risk going way above or below budget. My parents response is that they don't know what things for wedding typically cost, so I should just go and look at lots of options and then they will select. We are having a large formal wedding in Northern New Jersey, so things have been kind of costly. 

One example- invitations. I have looked at several vendors in my area, as well as on the internet. I presented my parents with several options, ranging from $500 - $1300 for 175 invitations and additional pieces. In each instance, they thought it was too expensive for 'paper.' In the same breath, they want something nice and elegant to reflect with the look of the venue. 

Yesterday, shoes. We looked at $50 shoes to $700 shoes. I fell in love with a pair of Jimmy Choo's- not because of the name, but because of how they looked and felt on me.  My mother was the one who took me into the store to look at them. Afterwards, she told me that she didn't want to spend that much money on shoes.

That is completely understandable and I understand that it is not my money, but I am frustrated because if she didn't want to spend that much on shoes, she should have never taken me to such a high end store. I keep thinking about what they say on SYTTD- never let a bride try on a dress that is out of her price range, because most likely, she will fall in love with it. Turns out, the same applies to shoes.


I am at a loss for how to approach this issue with my parents again. It inevitibly turns into an argument and it has really taken the enjoyment out of wedding planning. They have not responded to my suggestions for a budget spreadsheet, an overall budget, or anything else. 

Any suggestions would be more than helpful! 


Re: Parents and a budget

  • honestly... and this is just a warning.... but poor little rich girl doesn't fly well here. You are INCREDIBLY lucky to have you parents paying fully- it is RARE nowadays for a bride and a groom to only need to plan. You shouldn't be complaining.

    Yes it SUCKS that they are being difficult but suck it up. They are saving you THOUSANDS out of pocket. Just do what they say- get quotes and present them. If they are too high, get lower ones.

    And please- stop whining about your shoes. So what- you liked them and they were too expensive. If your mom won't buy them, get them yourself. You aren't spending any other money here. And really- are you REALLY complaining that she showed you nice shoes but won't pay for them?

    I mean this in the nicest way possible- grow up a bit. Be thankful for what you are getting and work through the issues.

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  • This is basically how my parents approached my wedding too (in fact I really still don't have a budget, which makes things fun like "what's your budget for flowers" when vendors ask...) but it's not that bad. I figured out pretty quickly they meant "get something nice for as cheaply as possible" and so that's how I'm approaching it. I found very elegant invites for about $1.50 a card, found a great florist but stuck with in-season, cheaper flowers so cost's staying down there...all that sort of stuff.

    I don't know your parents, but if they're approaching it like mine, I would suggest trying to stay on the cheaper end of things. If they don't know what weddings cost, they maybe find it crazy how much people charge for everything and are going through sticker shock (mine all started where they said to find a "range" of venues around with our dream venue and then some cheaper options. It turns out our dream venue was the better part of what they thought the entire wedding would cost since they had a cheap wedding thirty years ago. After that, they didn't want to limit things if we wouldn't be able to find ANY florist for the budget they wanted, but they wanted to keep it as cheap as possible too, so I've just approached it like that and it's worked out fine.

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  • I am not trying to pull the 'poor little rich girl' approach, as you so nicely put. I am just trying to make the process as smooth as possible. I am very aware of what is going on and how fortunate I am that my parents are paying for the wedding- a very nice one at that.

    I don't care if my shoes come from Jimmy Choo or TJ Maxx. I don't care if my invitations are DIY or custom. 

    I have read on here countless times the importance of having a budget before you start planning- regardless of a $1000 wedding or a $100,000 wedding. With the post, all I am trying to accomplish is how to convey that to my parents so I am not blindly searching on my own. 

    I am overwhelmed by the process and just looking for some guidance. 

  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_parents-and-a-budget?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:3031b6ff-a68b-4d27-9bd4-a84b5e34ce3aPost:795f0321-3319-40f9-8a08-91e71e3f02d7">Re: Parents and a budget</a>:
    [QUOTE]This is basically how my parents approached my wedding too (in fact I really still don't have a budget, which makes things fun like "what's your budget for flowers" when vendors ask...) but it's not that bad. I figured out pretty quickly they meant "get something nice for as cheaply as possible" and so that's how I'm approaching it. I found very elegant invites for about $1.50 a card, found a great florist but stuck with in-season, cheaper flowers so cost's staying down there...all that sort of stuff. I don't know your parents, but if they're approaching it like mine, I would suggest trying to stay on the cheaper end of things. If they don't know what weddings cost, they maybe find it crazy how much people charge for everything and are going through sticker shock (mine all started where they said to find a "range" of venues around with our dream venue and then some cheaper options. It turns out our dream venue was the better part of what they thought the entire wedding would cost since they had a cheap wedding thirty years ago. After that, they didn't want to limit things if we wouldn't be able to find ANY florist for the budget they wanted, but they wanted to keep it as cheap as possible too, so I've just approached it like that and it's worked out fine.
    Posted by jessicadall[/QUOTE]<div>
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    </div><div>Thanks for your advice- . I was hoping for something a little more concrete from my parents, but it seems like your approach is the way to go to keep things going as smoothly as possible

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  • My father was similar in that he kept offering to help but never gave a concrete figure.

    I did a lot of research and determined what I thought were reasonable estimates for each piece of the wedding. I am frugal so $700 shoes were never an option even if he had been willing to fork over that kind of cash.  I then sent him a detailed email with all of the information.

    He wrote back and said that it looked good and that he would be willing to contribute X to the wedding. I knew we were more than capable of making up the rest so we went from there. 
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_parents-and-a-budget?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:3031b6ff-a68b-4d27-9bd4-a84b5e34ce3aPost:1174ce85-93a0-4862-8b8e-9ec2bcba682e">Re: Parents and a budget</a>:
    [QUOTE]I am not trying to pull the 'poor little rich girl' approach, as you so nicely put. I am just trying to make the process as smooth as possible. I am very aware of what is going on and how fortunate I am that my parents are paying for the wedding- a very nice one at that. I don't care if my shoes come from Jimmy Choo or TJ Maxx. I don't care if my invitations are DIY or custom.  I have read on here countless times the importance of having a budget before you start planning- regardless of a $1000 wedding or a $100,000 wedding. With the post, all I am trying to accomplish is how to convey that to my parents so I am not blindly searching on my own.  I am overwhelmed by the process and just looking for some guidance. 
    Posted by krichards0527[/QUOTE]

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    </div><div><div>"<span style="background-color:#ffffff;font-family:Arial;font-size:12px;">That is completely understandable and I understand that it is not my money, <strong><em>but I am frustrated because if she didn't want to spend that much on shoes, she should have never taken me to such a high end store</em></strong>."</span></div><div><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12px;">
    </span></font></div><div><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12px;">This is what really bothered me. Cmon- really? She should never have taken you there. Like I said- if you like them- why not treat yourself to them? You aren't spending on the rest of the event!
    </span></font></div></div><div><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12px;">
    </span></font></div><div><font face="Arial"><span style="font-size:12px;">And as for how to get them to set a budget- you may not be able to. If you really want a budget, then you may have to decline their money. Otherwise- I suggest you go in and say- what is the MOST overall you want to spend- then work to stay UNDER that number. Otherwise, you could say- would a 15k budget be too high, would 20k be too high etc and get a ballpark from them. Once you have a BALLPARK, make that ballpark your budget and stick with it.</span></font></div>

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  • My parents wont give me a number at all either. All my mom would say is am not paying over this amount for your dress which was fine all the dresses i like were under that anyways. but to keep it simple i got info pulled out two of my favorites and showed them to my mom. She either said we can do that or cant do that. And am just about to start a new job and will make more so i can put in some too. If you find something you really like and your parents are like no to much try what if we split it or what if i put in this much. So if you really really like something and have your heart set on it if both of yall add to it it wont feel like its so much for your parents if you pitch in. 

    When you take prices to your parents i would take a high low and medium so they can see how much it is. 20 to 30 years ago when our parents were getting married there whole wedding was as much as some dresses or venues nowadays . So you have to think about that too. 
  • The price you named off is way too expensive for invites, there is a lot of places online where you can order them for much cheaper and costume design them too. I got mine from Vistaprint (and bought a livingsocial coupon) I spent about 40 bucks for save the dates and wedding invitations for 100 people.

    I would just look at "cheaper" options, including your shoes. I spent $80 on my Allure shoes, and even for me that was a splurge.

    Do you do coupons/look at good deals online? Start now. :)
  • NuggetBrainNuggetBrain member
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_parents-and-a-budget?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:17Discussion:3031b6ff-a68b-4d27-9bd4-a84b5e34ce3aPost:d6ca532a-dc01-4902-8e9b-dc1e42dc0ee6">Re: Parents and a budget</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Parents and a budget : " That is completely understandable and I understand that it is not my money,  but I am frustrated because if she didn't want to spend that much on shoes, she should have never taken me to such a high end store ." This is what really bothered me. <strong>Cmon- really? She should never have taken you there</strong>. Like I said- if you like them- why not treat yourself to them? You aren't spending on the rest of the event! And as for how to get them to set a budget- you may not be able to. If you really want a budget, then you may have to decline their money. Otherwise- I suggest you go in and say- what is the MOST overall you want to spend- then work to stay UNDER that number. Otherwise, you could say- would a 15k budget be too high, would 20k be too high etc and get a ballpark from them. Once you have a BALLPARK, make that ballpark your budget and stick with it.
    Posted by Starmusica[/QUOTE]

    Uh, yeah.  She shouldn't have taken her there.  I wouldn't tell Noodle that he could pick whatever computer he wanted for Christmas, take him to the Alienware website and then be all "Oh, you like that one? Well, sorry, you're getting an Asus."  WTF, man.  Don't take someone into Vera Wang if you don't want to pay for more than David's Bridal.

    And the only time a parent should be refusing to give a budget is if there literally is no budget.  If you know you don't want to spend $300 on a pair of shoes, then say "anything under $300".  It's not that hard.
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  • Yeah, I agree with nuggs.  I don't see why your parents won't give you a ball park or figure not to exceed.  Sounds to me that I wouldn't count on that money.  I would plan a wedding that you and your fi can afford.  If your parents give you the cash later, great.  
  • You need to give them a estimate of some of the things that appeal to you. Once I told my dad that $37,000 was the average wedding cost in Philly, he quickly figured out what he was comfortable contributing.
    Ultimately, you need to be grateful for the contribution and don't focus on specifics until you have a figure. It's not fair to them.
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  • Maybe, and you probably have already but remind them gently, that not having any type of idea where to start is completely stressing you out and with the added stress of a new job, you cry every night. Well, ok, maybe not, but you get the idea ;)  Everyone here is an adult, so try to sit them down and approach it like that :)  You need a ballpark figure like a previous poster said, just an idea to work with.  My mom had wanted to buy my veil, but had no clue how rediculously expensive they are, her jaw hit the floor when I told her, and we happily went hunting for a second hand one that I love :)  If they can't give you a rough idea of what they're willing to spend total, you can't plan, can't plan equals stress, therefore just give you a number ;)  They can aim low and if they're able to contribute a little more later, then awesome, but your basics will be covered.  And I agree about the shoe store thing and the alienware comparison, that totally made me laugh ;)  There's a reason I don't go into those stores, I know I can't afford it! ;)  Good luck!! :)
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  • We never gave my daughter & FI a set budget

    The church, venue and band were chosen a year out and the first two were a joint decision.  Her father and I insisted on the band as they wanted a formal wedding.

    The invitations were a bit pricey, Crane''s, but I'm a stationery snob so I nixed the whatever from Kate Spade ;)

    Everything else was chosen by them.  She would come to me with, as example, three florists with their portfolios and prices.  I would say she had XX amount to spend on flowers and favors so she would have to chose how to allocate the money.

    btw, I wouldn't shell out $700 for shoes but she did con her father out of Bagdley Mishkas ;)

  • Try looking at www.costofwedding.com. You can answer some questions and it will give you an estimate and a range for weddings in your area.  You can then go to your parents and say that this is the range of prices for weddings in the area, are you comfortable with that, or should I plan on another amount.  Once they have recovered from the sticker shock, they will hopefully be willing to give you a budget.
  • My parents are picking up that majority of our wedding tab and are approaching it in a similar way as your; not giving me a number. However, I know what my parents do for a living and therefore know roughly how much they make and roughly what their financial situation is (my brother and I grew up in a home where we were raised to be financially stable by our late teens, so money was also an open topic to some degree). Even if you don't know your parents financial situation even to some small inkling, you grew up with them, how do they normally spend money? How frivolous are they? Do they splurge a lot, buy luxury items? It's not hard to see how your parents spend money on a day to day basis and use that as a spring board to making decisions when you vendor hunt or wedding shop. 

    If they're going to be particular about money without giving a number then pick something in a generic price range and ask their opinion on it. For example, when I looked at photographers, I sent my mom a few links to photographers I liked within a number of different price ranges. She quickly nixed the ones over her budget and then give me her feedback on the ones in her price range. 
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  • (1) First, set a total budget for yourself. Find out the total cost of a wedding in your area.

    (2) Find 3 items you want to splurge on, and 3 items you want to cut back on. The 3 items I spent more on photography (well worth it), venue and DJ. The 3 items I cut back on were dress w/ accessories, flowers (we had no flowers b/c I'm allergic) and cake. Meanwhile, everything else in the middle was economical - our invitations were $200 to print since we designed them ourselves. My bouquet, which was made of brooches, cost about $200 to make myself. My shoes were $60 b/c I had a $20 coupon.

    Try this approach instead and look for deals. Your parents want you to find things that are economical and look nice.
  • At least in California, a "nice" wedding is $75-100 per person.  Most of that goes to the food and decor.  Just tell them that, and then you will hopefully elicit some sort of response.
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