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EX-BM Rant Really long...

Hey Ladies...

I haven't known how to put what I'm going through to words until recently so I thought I would share... Any thoughts or insight, prayers, jokes ANYTHING to make me smile would be much appreciated.  Here goes:

*sigh* BM and I have known each other for about 13 years. We lost contact through college but picked back up when we saw each other at the mall about 3 years ago. We've confided in and consulted each other for years on just about every issue imagineable.  My FI and her bf became close, we're at each others family functions, we make plans together weekely, our dogs even love each other. She recently graduated from Grad school and her bf threw a surprise party over the weekend. We were invited along with close friends and family all people we're comfortable with and have been around on more than one occassion throughout the years. Party goes great, we make plans to meet up during the week to run wedding errands and I come home with FI.
On Monday, BM picks me up and we are out running errands and she proceeds to tell me that someone at the party told her that FI had grabbed her butt repeatedly throughout the night and that he was having inappropriate conversations about women that were there with other single guys.
FI and I have a transparent relationship. Thank God as I know I've been blessed. BM informed me that the woman didn't wanna stir any trouble and told her not to tell me who she was, she knows FI and figured he was probably drunk. She offers to tell me her name again, but I choose to respect her privacy pending results from my chat with FI. He would know who she was, she would know it happened and that other people know so everyone in my mind would just be held accountable and I didn't have to know her name.  Also we were basically at a family gathering. A family who we are CLOSE friends with, why lie? Makes no sense so I wait for him to come home and I bring him these allegations which he denies out right. He states he wasn't drunk which I know he wasn't, and that he touched no one other than me.
So I call BM repeatedly to ask for a name in the event that FI may have been "drunk" and "forgot" so I can remind him and guess what.. Initially she doesn't pick up, somehow I waited an hour then I txt her . Now BM doesn't want to tell me any more information. Why you ask? Because BM promised her bf and this woman that she wouldn't tell me in the first place, and now her bf is mad at her for telling me and the woman is going to get mad at her if I know her name. SAY WHAT?!? So my dear friend almost put my upcoming marriage  in jeopardy on some allegation that she volunteered  and then when I call her to expand on that she totally turned into a fairweather friend....  I brought this into my home for NO reason.
FI calls her bf and he also turns into a fairweather friend, stating we need to figure this out ourselves and we don't need her name. He did throw in the mix that the woman never said FI grabbed her butt intentionally which was omitted in the version of the story she told me. Bf told FI that the woman said he graced her in passing... like in a crowded setting which is what it was! 
Once I find this out I calledd BM and ended our friendship. I couldn't handle that... I still don't know what to make of this situation. Did I OD on my friend? Am I turning into a bridezilla? I don't even wanna tell my mother any of this...

Thank you for reading my rant... I know its really long. I'll update as I respond.
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    I have no idea how I would have reacted if I were in your place. But just from reading your story, I think maybe you over reacted a bit but with some blame on your friend. I am not sure if I was in your friend's situation if I would have said anything to you if I had not witnessed it first hand. Not sure why both BM and friend acted the way they did. It's a very weird situation and instead of ending the friendship, I might have just distanced myself for a while to see how the relationship would change. But what's done is done, I guess. You're not a bridezilla, just like me the stress of the wedding being around the corner is probably just making you have a short fuse and no time for foolishness. Maybe after some time and you feel like the relationship is worth saving, you could try talking to your friend again. 
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    @rowen, thank you for your thoughts... and you're right, I'll definitely re-visit this later. There's a little more to this though. When I was picking out my wedding venue a few months back she volunteered to come with me and check them out. I told her the places I liked and sent her web addresses so she could see all the info I had. A few weeks later when we're making weekend plans to go out again she tells me that the place I was most excited about, a local botanical garden was not impressive at all in June, not to waste my time cuz it would be worse in October. Trusting my "friend" I cross it off my list.
     At the same time she started kinda pressuring her bf to "engage her" and  started planning a summer for wedding for next year on their anniversary. Our wedding is on our 3rd anniversary, our colors are purple and teal, hers changed a lot but  are now also purple and teal. She told me sometime ago that she was planning on using the botanical garden we discussed, but was waiting on some catering answers Frown I was kinda hurt... but I'm in love with my venue so no matter. I could go on and on with similarities... but its not important.
    I took her to help me pick out my wedding dress... and she was flaky with her opinion on it too. When I asked for her opinion, she saw every dress and gave me new reason to like each one. When I finally make a decision she texts me and says "I was hoping you'd get that one" but had NO decisive input for the month I was pulling my hair trying to figure it out!  I laughed at that but still... All this individually wasn't a big deal, but together? I don't feel as if she has my best interest at heart... This whole situation really, really hurts my heart! I just don't know how anyone that considers themselves a friend can do this to another person. Any information I had in regards to her man being unfaithful I would give her.. and not in pieces either. Who knows if she even told the truth? Her bf totally contradicted her story...
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    edited August 2012
    My, clarify one point for me please

    She offers to tell me her name again, but I choose to respect her privacy pending results from my chat with FI.

    this either means your friend offered to tell you the girl's name at the time and you stopped her or she said she'd tell you later and then renegged on the promise?  it kinda changes my perspective depending on what the answer is.  If it's the first one and she was willing to say the name of the lady, what your friend did was come to you with what she knew.  given that she didn't have the complete, let alone accurately complete version of the story, it might have been a bad idea, but is it worth ending a 13 year friendship?  you're the only person who can say with experience what her spirit is like.  if she's a "helper" then I can see the perspective being I want my girl to know everything there is to know (right or wrong that's another story) but my point is I can see it.  If she's not a helper (I don't wanna say hater, but you know the type of girl I'm talking about) then you can judge her perspective.   In either instance though, I don't think she can be held responsible for your reaction.  I get the planting a seed of doubt thing but only you can decide what you do when presented with information.  The specific story/details aren't important.  When you've built a great relationship and you have trust, no one else's word should have the ability to cast doubts upon your dude, right girl?  I'm not being facetious and I'd never encourage naivete I'm saying she (nor anyone else) doesn't have the power to make you distrust him.  

    As to the second part, the background?  okay, she's a copycat, you can take that one of two ways - imitation is the most sincere form of flattery OR that's haterish.   I wouldn't spend time on hurt because she ain't spending time being considerate of your feelings is she?  I'd ask her wtf the problem was.   

    The dress thing, I hope you don't take to heart.  My best friend and I were each other's dress judges and we were kind of quiet and reserved.  Now when I tried on THE dress, she looked down (same was true for me, when we found her SHE, I didn't say a word) and it was for the same {unspoken} reason for each of us - the bride should love her dress beyond the way anyone else feels.  I'm trying to give her the benefit of the doubt here My, help a sister out if you wanna repair this friendship lol.    {{hugs}} this is a lot of emotion to go through when you're just weeks away, I hope it gets better.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_african-american-weddings_ex-bm-rant-really-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:400Discussion:00e665da-59c8-4c3d-8ff2-293d223d1652Post:60e74683-c8c4-44b5-9afe-3fb4665cdc54">Re: EX-BM Rant Really long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]@rowen, thank you for your thoughts... and you're right, I'll definitely re-visit this later. There's a little more to this though. When I was picking out my wedding venue a few months back she volunteered to come with me and check them out. I told her the places I liked and sent her web addresses so she could see all the info I had. A few weeks later when we're making weekend plans to go out again she tells me that the place I was most excited about, a local botanical garden was not impressive at all in June, not to waste my time cuz it would be worse in October. Trusting my "friend" I cross it off my list.  At the same time she started kinda pressuring her bf to "engage her" and  started planning a summer for wedding for next year on their anniversary. Our wedding is on our 3rd anniversary, our colors are purple and teal, hers changed a lot but  are now also purple and teal. She told me sometime ago that she was planning on using the botanical garden we discussed, but was waiting on some catering answers I was kinda hurt... but I'm in love with my venue so no matter. I could go on and on with similarities... but its not important. I took her to help me pick out my wedding dress... and she was flaky with her opinion on it too. When I asked for her opinion, she saw every dress and gave me new reason to like each one. When I finally make a decision she texts me and says "I was hoping you'd get that one" but had NO decisive input for the month I was pulling my hair trying to figure it out!  I laughed at that but still... All this individually wasn't a big deal, but together? I don't feel as if she has my best interest at heart... This whole situation really, really hurts my heart! I just don't know how anyone that considers themselves a friend can do this to another person. Any information I had in regards to her man being unfaithful I would give her.. and not in pieces either. Who knows if she even told the truth? Her bf totally contradicted her story...
    Posted by SyAmaya[/QUOTE]

    <div>We have had a couple of instances like this with other brides on the board who had some friends that make you raise an eyebrow. Hopefully those ladies could chime in. But now, I could definitely see why you reacted the way you did. You alone know what's in your heart and what you feel is best moving forward. Trust your instinct...</div>
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_african-american-weddings_ex-bm-rant-really-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:400Discussion:00e665da-59c8-4c3d-8ff2-293d223d1652Post:60e74683-c8c4-44b5-9afe-3fb4665cdc54">Re: EX-BM Rant Really long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]@rowen, thank you for your thoughts... and you're right, I'll definitely re-visit this later. There's a little more to this though. When I was picking out my wedding venue a few months back she volunteered to come with me and check them out. I told her the places I liked and sent her web addresses so she could see all the info I had. A few weeks later when we're making weekend plans to go out again she tells me that the place I was most excited about, a local botanical garden was not impressive at all in June, not to waste my time cuz it would be worse in October. Trusting my "friend" I cross it off my list.  At the same time she started kinda pressuring her bf to "engage her" and  started planning a summer for wedding for next year on their anniversary. Our wedding is on our 3rd anniversary, our colors are purple and teal, hers changed a lot but  are now also purple and teal. She told me sometime ago that she was planning on using the botanical garden we discussed, but was waiting on some catering answers I was kinda hurt... but I'm in love with my venue so no matter. I could go on and on with similarities... but its not important. I took her to help me pick out my wedding dress... and she was flaky with her opinion on it too. When I asked for her opinion, she saw every dress and gave me new reason to like each one. When I finally make a decision she texts me and says "I was hoping you'd get that one" but had NO decisive input for the month I was pulling my hair trying to figure it out!  I laughed at that but still... All this individually wasn't a big deal, but together? I don't feel as if she has my best interest at heart... This whole situation really, really hurts my heart! I just don't know how anyone that considers themselves a friend can do this to another person. Any information I had in regards to her man being unfaithful I would give her.. and not in pieces either. Who knows if she even told the truth? Her bf totally contradicted her story...
    Posted by SyAmaya[/QUOTE]
    This one's hard because you don't know what her real motivation was.  Maybe she was trying to look out for you.  But on the other hand she sounds like one of those friends that honestly don't mean you any harm but the little green monster rears its head from time to time and they change in a flash.  I would not have ended the friendship outright but just been more careful in the<strong> level </strong>of friendship you grant her.  You could have just distanced yourself a little bit and not let her in on all the details.  And since you don't know how much of her story is true all you can do is watch as well as pray.  God won't let nothing slip up on you.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_african-american-weddings_ex-bm-rant-really-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:400Discussion:00e665da-59c8-4c3d-8ff2-293d223d1652Post:701f80d6-0e82-47f8-afd0-194c50a1e782">EX-BM Rant Really long...</a>:
    [QUOTE]Hey Ladies... I haven't known how to put what I'm going through to words until recently so I thought I would share... Any thoughts or insight, prayers, jokes ANYTHING to make me smile would be much appreciated.  Here goes: *sigh* BM and I have known each other for about 13 years. We lost contact through college but picked back up when we saw each other at the mall about 3 years ago. We've confided in and consulted each other for years on just about every issue imagineable.  My FI and her bf became close, we're at each others family functions, we make plans together weekely, our dogs even love each other. She recently graduated from Grad school and her bf threw a surprise party over the weekend. We were invited along with close friends and family all people we're comfortable with and have been around on more than one occassion throughout the years. Party goes great, we make plans to meet up during the week to run wedding errands and I come home with FI. On Monday, BM picks me up and we are out running errands and she proceeds to tell me that someone at the party told her that FI had grabbed her butt repeatedly throughout the night and that he was having inappropriate conversations about women that were there with other single guys. FI and I have a transparent relationship. Thank God as I know I've been blessed. BM informed me that the woman didn't wanna stir any trouble and told her not to tell me who she was, she knows FI and figured he was probably drunk. She offers to tell me her name again, but I choose to respect her privacy pending results from my chat with FI. He would know who she was, she would know it happened and that other people know so everyone in my mind would just be held accountable and I didn't have to know her name.  Also we were basically at a family gathering. A family who we are CLOSE friends with, why lie? Makes no sense so I wait for him to come home and I bring him these allegations which he denies out right. He states he wasn't drunk which I know he wasn't, and that he touched no one other than me. So I call BM repeatedly to ask for a name in the event that FI may have been "drunk" and "forgot" so I can remind him and guess what.. Initially she doesn't pick up, somehow I waited an hour then I txt her . Now BM doesn't want to tell me any more information. Why you ask? Because BM promised her bf and this woman that she wouldn't tell me in the first place, and now her bf is mad at her for telling me and the woman is going to get mad at her if I know her name. SAY WHAT?!? So my dear friend almost put my upcoming marriage  in jeopardy on some allegation that she volunteered  and then when I call her to expand on that she totally turned into a fairweather friend....  I brought this into my home for NO reason. FI calls her bf and he also turns into a fairweather friend, stating we need to figure this out ourselves and we don't need her name. He did throw in the mix that the woman never said FI grabbed her butt intentionally which was omitted in the version of the story she told me. Bf told FI that the woman said he graced her in passing... like in a crowded setting which is what it was!  Once I find this out I calledd BM and ended our friendship. I couldn't handle that... I still don't know what to make of this situation. Did I OD on my friend? Am I turning into a bridezilla? I don't even wanna tell my mother any of this... Thank you for reading my rant... I know its really long. I'll update as I respond.
    Posted by SyAmaya[/QUOTE]

    The sane woman in me is saying, you did the right thing <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /> NOW the luney bin I am would have cussed her you-know-what out and ended the "friendship" She sounds jealous to me...<img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-sealed.gif" border="0" alt="Sealed" title="Sealed" />
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    Thank you ladies for your input... I will pray on this as it is not over. All of you have made valid points and trust me I'm praying on this as well as keeping your thoughts in mind...

    @Sultry, I let her tell me the story leaving her name out. She initially asked me if I wanted to know who it was, I declined... told her that there was no need at the time for reasons I explained above BUT I might need that info  pending how the conversation with FI went, and she did not disagree.

    You ladies are right... I unfortunately did not know my place in this friendship. The more I think about it though, I'm just expecting this to get worse before it gets any better. I'm still upset so I'll wait a few days before I reach out to her.

    Keep me in your prayers. Please?
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    Wow...I think she was being a true friend by telling you everything. She should of gotten all the facts straight. Now she also seems to be a little jealous of you. She may not be completely happy in her relationship and wish she was in your shoes. I don't think I would of ended the relationship. Especially if you have been friends this long, but if you were mad I can understand this. So take some time to calm down and then rethink your decision. If you feel you really don't want to be her friend over this the ok that's your decision. Oh and I just remember she is also your BM. Smh oh wow I hope this can be repaired. Hugs
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    Ok so I'm thinking of this from the friends perspective. Everyone told her not to tell you but she told you anyways probably because she felt you deserved to know. It sounds like she did what a friend should have done... passed on the info she heard.

    Consider 2 things : 1) when you were speaking to her in private she was ready to offer info because it was just you 2, her bf obviously didnt want her to say anything. 2) When you called/text demanding the girls info and so did FI you both put her in a sticky position of being revealed to her bf (who told her not to tell in the first place) and he was probably standing or sitting right there and they were arguing on their own because he did not want to bein your business.

    I see why you're mad but you have to remember other people can't be "on demand " for your life. She didnt do anything wrong as a friend IMO. You should wait to talk to her face to face again. She may not have had all of the facts but it doesn't seem like she was trying to harm you she was relaying what she was told which I would expect someone standing next to me on their wedding day to do.
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    I totally appreciate everyone's feed back. Everytime I check this post I get more to think about...
    Unfortunately the situation did not get better. I understand no one is "on demand" for me, that's not what I expect and I hope nothing I wrote reflects that. This being my friend for 13 years... I just don't understand why she would bring something like this up with no real basis and then the whole thing turns into what it is. Granted I may not have handled the information correctly as far as getting a name right off the front. But why let me... your "friend" go into something as serious as marriage knowing something that *I* need to know about my man. That is not my friend. I would HOPE that my friends would not let me plunge into a life long commitment knowing there is something I need to know about my man. IDK how anyone could sit next to a friend and smile with that kind of info. Maybe that's just me and I think that's partly the problem Cry

     I'm washing my hands clean as I didn't hear from her until yesterday when she calls me screaming about her dress being non refundable and that I need to pay her for it. She sent me text after text, after text and when I didn't reply her bf started texting FI while she called and called and called... I was out running wedding errands with my mother and as much as I would've loved to enjoy my mom or the gorgeous day I almost couldn't.

    My goodness, IDK about you ladies, but this is not how I treat my friends or people I care about at all. I don't even care if she's jealous, I got my ideas from somewhere also... My whole thing is I just didn't see this coming at all. I am still hurt and she just wont stop harrassing!

    Thank you all again for your input. MUCH appreciated!
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