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Super long post...I'm sorry. I'm just so fed up!! :o(

I have been struggling with some friendships I lost lately. I wish I wasn't struggling with it, but I just get so upset still...anyways, here's the rub.

In early December, some of our good friends stabbed us in the back. It's really complicated what happened, but basically my FIs best friend from childhhood, along with his new husband decided to have a sort of "intervention" with me, along with one of my best friends. They said that they had been getting annoyed at us for not reciprocating spending money on them like they do on us. I won't go into details, but new husband complained after offering to pay for my hair and make-up. He kept pushing his way into being my maid of honor (he was already a bm and I had decided not to choose a MOH). He said that we were just waiting to have money spent on us. I never asked him to pay for my hair and makeup, in fact, I refused it at first because I have a good friend I wanted to do my hair and make-up. He kept insisting, so I gave in. Anyways, things like this were his beef. So, he set up a meeting with just me at his house with FIs best friend and my best friend. I did not want to go because I felt like I was walking into a bad situation without FI, but I had hopes to resolve things.

Unfortunately, things only went downhill. All three of them started to tell me they thought I deserved better than FI, that FI is lieing to me, that FI is an asshole, etc. etc. I was quite confused because here was FIs best friend since childhood supporting his new husband in ripping my FI a new one. AND these are people that have only sung the praises of our relationship together! Next, FIs best friend started chiming in and telling me false information about FI. He accused my FI of keeping secrets from me in regards to things I won't mention and proceeded to call FIs x-wife, whom they had always claimed was a bitch, and ask her if she knew about it. 

I know this is confusing to read, but, needless to say, I was a wreck. I didn't know who to believe or what to think. FIs best friend and his husband, along with my best friend, all told me they could find me someone way better right away and they encouraged me to move in with them right away.  I mean, they told me health-threatening things! I was scared out of my mind. I confronted my FI right away about it all. I found out that it was all a lie, well, it was information they had given me from something my FI had apparently told his best friend close to 7 years ago, before his marriage to his ex and before I ever met him. So...
First of all, I was pretty pissed to find out that FIs best friend threw FI under the bus without him even being there AND on information he had never actually confirmed with FI. The information was not true, in fact. ALSO, I could care less what happened to FI before he met me. In fact, some things I would rather NOT know. There's no point. In my mind, all it causes is heartache and frustration that's unnecessary. 

Anyway, all of that to say that FI and I are no longer friends with them anymore. It's been very difficult for FI especially because he feels like his best friend back stabbed him. He has never done anything of the sort to FI before, so this behaviour is very strange and leads us to believe it's the influence of the new husband that led him to behave in such a manner. 

So, we've unfriended these three, including some of their family that took sides right away with them. I couldn't handle watching my best friend have so much fun and such with FIs best friend and new husband when we are the ones that introduced them six months ago, and they don't even bat an eye at what they tried to do. These are also grown people in their 30's...It really pisses us off. 

Now, my issue is that there are certain friends that have been close with those three that we met as well and wanted to invite to the wedding. One of the girls is super nice and has continued to be my friend and comment on my statuses, etc. I am surprised she hasn't unfriended me yet since she is so close with my old best friend. It makes me feel sooo awkward. What do I do? I feel like I need to forget it and just not invite her even though she's super nice. On the other hand, I'd like to tell her why we're not inviting her. I feel like I'm in such a tight spot and it's not even because of something FI or I did. It's so frustrating and I just don't know what to do anymore. It makes me sick to think that these so called friends behaved this way...and now we are confused about who to invite and who not to invite. 

Re: Super long post...I'm sorry. I'm just so fed up!! :o(

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    I'll tackle the easy thing first. Don't let what happened affect your friendships with people who weren't involved. Go ahead and invite your other friends.

    Aaaand the not so easy part. You said that you believe your FI's best friend is being heavily influenced by his new husband, and that's why he's saying all of these things. But YOUR best friend too? It just doesn't make sense, especially when you say they've only known each other for 6 months. And the health-related things they told you...I can only assume you're referring to STDs? And I'm not talking about save the dates, ha. But honestly though, as much as you trust your FI, have you been tested? That's nothing to mess around with.

    Don't get me wrong - I definitely think what they did is shiiiiity, and I don't blame you in the slightest for feeling the way you do, but something isn't adding up. It's one thing for the new husband to dupe your FI's best friend, but to dupe YOUR best friend too, who he's only known for 6 months...it's just weird to me.
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    Thanks, Jessa...I guess I'm just overthinking the whole circle of friends thing and who to invite to the wedding. It's making me revisit a bit what happened. Thank you for listening to me vent. 
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_september-2012-weddings_super-long-postim-sorry-im-just-so-fed-up-o?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:a464c18c-2e4d-469b-8eae-3865079cb9cfDiscussion:061f066c-3549-4474-baa7-ab63e06cda07Post:20775cff-e51a-407d-983c-308211a6f630">Re: Super long post...I'm sorry. I'm just so fed up!! :o(</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'll tackle the easy thing first. Don't let what happened affect your friendships with people who weren't involved. Go ahead and invite your other friends. 
    Posted by jessa1228[/QUOTE]

    <div>Well said and I couldn't agree more. </div><div>
    </div><div>This is just a horrible situation all around, but it also sounds like you and the FI miss these friends even though terrible things have been done/said. :(  I know the feeling. Do you think you'll ever be able to be friends with them again after this? Could you envision any situation where this could be worked out?  </div>
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    It would kill me to not know WHY they did this to you, and why they would continue to pretend to be your FI's friend if they obviously thought so low of him. I would have a conversation/email about it and try to get to the bottom of it.

    Maybe your FI did something to them and they were pissed. Maybe they're just jealous of something? Maybe there's something your FI isn't telling you.

    Either way, your invites don't need to go out until 3 months prior,(even that's early if you sent STD's), so you have 4ish months to worry about addressing envelopes. See how the friendships pan out between now and then and make your decisions then.
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    Thanks, ladies. I appreciate your insight. Yes, we do miss them. But we are so mad at them for what they have done and have been cut off from them. When we tried to confront them about it, FIs best friend said that he didn't care either way if they would remain friends anymore. We both think it's the new husband who has been jealous...he always hated when my FI and FIs best friend would be silly around each other, play chess and say stupid, little boyish things together. I think he was jealous of FI but liked me so he did what he could to get my FI out of the picture. It's really messed up no matter how you look at it. 

    And you are right...I have at least another four months to think about it. We'll see how it goes. In the mean time, we don't feel comfortable inviting those three to our wedding when they tried to break us up. We've completely lost any trust in them. Even after they used the money issue to get me to come over and discuss their problems with us not spending as much money on them as they do on us, FI and I bought them a Nook in order to help apologize for making them feel that way. They still went through with these lies. What makes me even more upset is my best friend believed them, then felt stupid for believing them and apologized to me for it, yet continued hanging out with them over FI and I and never once tried to speak to my FI about what happened. 

    Anyways, sorry! This is becoming one long vent! <sigh>
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    Definitely consider inviting the not-involved girl... maybe invite her to a girls night or something between now and invites just to see the vibe she gives you???

    And if someone shiits on you and doesn't even try to make up/apologize, then it's all on them. I wouldn't be the one trying to fix it....

    And 50 years down the road when you and FI are still together and happy and they are all miserable, just kick back your heels, smile and relax cause you did it right and didn't have to prove anything.
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    This entire situation sucks.  Although, I am jaded, and I would block some of the posts that you write.  My reasoning is I'm not sure if I would trust the other girl that is still friends with you old best friend.  I speak from experience when I say that the other three could be finding out about your life through her facebook. 

    I agree with OP though, if you really do want to be friends with this girl and feel her out then I would say have a little get together with her and see what comes out of it.  I wouldn't bring up the situation though if you do end up hanging out and dont question her friendships with the others.

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    DirtyWater, I'm sorry you've had experience with that! I've already blocked the three of them, so no worries there. At first I worried about the one girl friend and wasn't sure if I should unfriend her. But she has been nothing but nice to me and talks to me about my little girl, etc. I unfortunately can't just meet up with her sometime though because she lives in New York. But she flew all the way from New York to surprise me for FI and my engagement! She's really a sweetheart...but I still wonder if I should be cautious with her because of her connections to the other three. 


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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_september-2012-weddings_super-long-postim-sorry-im-just-so-fed-up-o?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:a464c18c-2e4d-469b-8eae-3865079cb9cfDiscussion:061f066c-3549-4474-baa7-ab63e06cda07Post:16e9aef8-1f6a-4f4b-b023-cbeaa5d87677">Re: Super long post...I'm sorry. I'm just so fed up!! :o(</a>:
    [QUOTE]Definitely consider inviting the not-involved girl... maybe invite her to a girls night or something between now and invites just to see the vibe she gives you??? And if someone shiits on you and doesn't even try to make up/apologize, then it's all on them. I wouldn't be the one trying to fix it.... And 50 years down the road when you and FI are still together and happy and they are all miserable, just kick back your heels, smile and relax cause you did it right and didn't have to prove anything.
    Posted by caterpillar85[/QUOTE]

    <div>I wish I could like this post, caterpillar! lol Thank you! <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div>
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    Wow that's rough!  One I think even their fake premise of getting you over to their house would have pissed me off.  I STRONGLY believe acts of kindness for loved ones should be done out of kindness and love (not alluding to your dress sitch...I totally wish they'd give you a better deal).  I hate when people hold things like that over your head.  If you want to buy me something, that's sweet but it should not obligate me to return the favor.  Then the rest of the stuff is ridiculous!  If it would give you peace to try to make ammends, you can certainly try.  But I know I am someone who trusts easily and once it is broken it is a slooow process to earn it back.  I think that would be the wise approach with these three if there is any progress (or you even care to make progressO.

    As for the other girl, if she's nice, I would invite her.  I think if you become paranoid that everyone affiliated with evil people is evil too, it will turn you cynical.  At this point, you and FI probably have a more open/honest relationship about these topics AND you know your relationship can endure, so what really could she even do to hurt you if her intentions are impure.  And, if she is funneling information back to the 3, so what???  All they get to hear is how awesome your wedding was and how gorgeous you looked and how happy you two are and they missed out because they SUCK!
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    Wow. I'm so sorry your "friends" put you in that situation; that's awful. They are being so vindictive for some reason; it seems really bizarre.
    The other ladies have given you great advice, so I'm just gonna stick to HUGS :)
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-club-boards_september-2012-weddings_super-long-postim-sorry-im-just-so-fed-up-o?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20Club%20BoardsForum:a464c18c-2e4d-469b-8eae-3865079cb9cfDiscussion:061f066c-3549-4474-baa7-ab63e06cda07Post:b58171d7-2a11-4fcc-a532-78d438d55c43">Re: Super long post...I'm sorry. I'm just so fed up!! :o(</a>:
    [QUOTE]  I think if you become paranoid that everyone affiliated with evil people is evil too, it will turn you cynical.  At this point, you and FI probably have a more open/honest relationship about these topics AND you know your relationship can endure, so what really could she even do to hurt you if her intentions are impure.  And, if she is funneling information back to the 3, so what???  All they get to hear is how awesome your wedding was and how gorgeous you looked and how happy you two are and they missed out because they SUCK!
    Posted by volleygurl0306[/QUOTE]

    <div>This is a very good point, volleygurl. Thanks for putting things into perspective. I've been having nightmares in regards to this situation because sometimes I miss the fun times I had with those 3...but I feel taken advantage of. FI seems to think that they also made financial promises to us they couldn't keep and thus tried to get out of it without ruining their reputation. He also thinks that the new husband must have waited to be married to FIs best friend because this literally happened three days after they got married. (It was a civil ceremony they didn't invite anyone to since gay marriage has just been legalized recently. They decided to have a huge ceremony and event around the same time we are having our wedding). That way FIs best friend would have to feel more loyalty to him or something. Who knows! </div><div>
    </div><div>Anyway, thank you so much, ladies, for encouraging me and supporting me! It's hard to vent about these things because you never know what kind of reaction you'll get on the boards. I am grateful I could vent about this without getting flamed! I love you all!! Go team September! lol <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-smile.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /></div>
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