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Warning: slightly extended whining

Some background: I'm back in Barbados after being gone for 5 years. As hard as it is for independent me to admit, making social connections - whether fresh or renewing - kind of matters to me right now, in re-establishing that sense of 'home'.

An old friend of mine from secondary school, let's call him 'A', and I have really reconnected, along with a couple others we hang with. I didn't realise how much A's renewed friendship has meant to me until it hit me last night that his little girlfriends keep messing it up. That is to say, not the girls so much, but his attitude and approach with them.

I give you examples: A couple months ago, before my trip back to the US, psyho-ex-girlfriend tries to start a confrontation with me, after arguing with him over her belief that he must be sleeping with me. Last night, he gets grumpy and starts to argue with me because I didn't drop him home earlier, after his new gf messages, upset that he is still out while she is at home sick. (It wasn't just me he was out with, just that I was his ride. And did I mention, it had been *his* idea to go to a second spot?)

He's asked several times for advice with both situations, and I've always tried to steer him towards happiness by getting away from these crazy girls. But last night it hit me - it's him. When I told him he was being ridiculous, he told me I was just jealous because I don't have anyone to message me all the time asking where I am.  Sealed.  He seems to thrive on behavior bordering on obssessive. Perhaps it makes him feel wanted. Perhaps that's why, at almost 26, he'd rather deal with the annoying antics of an immature 19-year-old (learnt that part last night too).

Sigh. I'm admittedly being selfish here, not so much thinking about his happiness anymore at the moment, inwardly throwing a "leave the stupid girls alone & just have a good time with me & the crew!!" tantrum. I've already concluded that at some point, I'll tell him what I think, and then maintain appropriate distance while this crap continues. But.Yell!!

Re: Warning: slightly extended whining

  • edited December 2011
    First, it's generally a bad idea to say anything negative about a friend's significant others or pattern of relationship, even if they ask.  Especially advising them to move on, because if they stay together then you're the bad guy.  Unfortunately, we have to live with our friends' bad choices until they wise up.  It will always come back and bite you (ie. being called jealous, in this case, or giving girlfriends more reason to be suspicious of you if they find out what you said)

    Second, I understand how hard it is to find good friends, but it doesn't sound like this guy is very nice to you.  I had a friend like that, and I realized later he had a crush on me.  We took some time apart, he got a girlfriend, and now we're friends again.  Another one of my guy friends spoke to me rudely, and my boyfriend told him directly that if the friend didn't treat me with respect, he wouldn't be in my life.  And that friend has been wondeful every since, and respects my boyfriend greatly for sticking up for me.

    Like you said, it's not the girlfriends who are preventing your friendship - it's him catering to them, even creating these situations.  But you can't change it.  Either accept it, or find another friend.  I vote find another friend.
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  • bajedivabajediva member
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    edited December 2011
    Thanks, Cate.

    On saying negative things about friends' relationships, etc, I really feel if they ask for my honest opinion, that's what I'm going lovingly to give. Not only is that who I am, but if you can't get the truth from friends, then where?

    Agreed otherwise. Like I said - I'll be maintaining appropriate distance.
  • frenchy730frenchy730 member
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    edited December 2011
    I'm confused... why are you posting this on a wedding board if you're not even dating this guy?  Why are you here? What's going on?
  • edited December 2011
    Oh frenchy, you clearly don't know the mentality of this board.  NEY is about life problems, not wedding problems (mostly).  Generally we're all in serious relationships - either contemplating marriage, engaged, or married, but there's no rules on relationship status to post.  Also, bajediva has a serious boyfriend but they're doing LD right now.

    bajediva - I say that from personal experience.  My Mom's friend cried to her about her husband cheating, and my Mom said that if he was hurting her with his lies and deceit, that she should leave him.  They're still together, and somehow my Mom's the evil one.  Often when people ask for advice, they want a pat on the head (like noobs on here).  Just be careful if you value the friendship.
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  • redheadfsuredheadfsu member
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    edited December 2011
    I have several guy friends that have/had crazy girlfriends, but you can't say anything. You can only tell them how crazy the girl was after they officially end it forever. Yes, you want to slap them, but really they know what they are doing. Plus you never really know their relationships. Yes, you see the crazy,but you don't see the sweet/good side.

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  • PaigeMcCPaigeMcC member
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    edited December 2011
    I think you've got the right approach here, hun.  As bad as it is, and as annoying as it is, it's really at the point where you need to decide if you put up with the behavior or confront him.  Confrontation could go badly, and ignoring the problem will annoy the bejesus out of you. If he asks, tell him as nicely as possible how you feel, if not appropriate distance is your best bet.  GL:)

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  • bajedivabajediva member
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    edited December 2011
    frenchy, I think your confusion stems more from not knowing this board than anything else.

    Thanks for going into that a little more Cate, I completely get what you're saying now.
  • PaigeMcCPaigeMcC member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_not-engaged-yet_warning-slightly-extended-whining?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:136Discussion:e227afe5-12c4-403f-98ad-903ce7cefbd9Post:bc704009-a136-4644-ac54-f3698fad6832">Re: Warning: slightly extended whining</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'm confused... why are you posting this on a wedding board if you're not even dating this guy?  Why are you here? What's going on?
    Posted by frenchy730[/QUOTE]

    <div>Don't contemplate it too long, you're head might explode;)</div>

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  • bajedivabajediva member
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    edited December 2011
    hehehehehehe. love you gals.


  • frenchy730frenchy730 member
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    edited December 2011
    Hah!  Luckily my head did not explode.  Phew.  I got married and stopped checking in on the boards, so I guess I don't know what's going on anywhere anymore.  Tried to jump in.  Fail?

    Anyway, my advice:  Ignore the other girls.  Spend time with your friend like you normally would.  Don't get in the way of his relationships (i'm sure you're not) and the right girl will eventually understand that you are a good friend to this guy.  The guy friend has to understand this too, and should be open about his relationship with you with his girl friends so they are clear that you two are FRIENDS.  I it's a reoccurring problem, it sounds like something he needs to address with himself and with the girls he dates.


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