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very frustrated with my MOH (long!)

I already posted this in part on my month board, but wanted to swing it by the ladies here as well. I'm not really looking for advice because there isn't much I can do about it, rather just needing to get out my frustrations.

My best friend is my MOH. Now, my best friend is wonderful, I love her dearly, but she can be manipulative and drama-filled, and somewhat unreliable. She was awesome helping FI ring shop and know what I wanted and how I wanted photo and/or video of the proposal. She lives in California now, and I'm in Florida so I knew having her as my MOH would be tricky. I know her better than anyone else. I know about her crazy messed up past, so sometimes I give her grace where other people may not. Then we had a financial issue that was her mistake and it was affecting my credit (long story...) that shouldn't have happened with a best friend but again, I let it slide and hoped she'd right it. I can't ever get ahold of her...I looked back over a month of my phone record, I tried calling her 8 times and not once did she try to return one or call me at all. Every time I get ahold of her via text it is one thing or anything (her boyfriend's grandma died, she had the flu, job training, possibly LOSING new job) and I can't keep being that good listening ear and not being able to talk about things I need to as well.

...so she told me last night she may not be able to be in the wedding. Coming up on 3 months to the wedding and she can't do it? WHAT?! I know that a bridal shower is supposed to be something we're blessed with, and not guaranteed, but no one I have known isn't getting one and I do really want one, and she was "trying" to make it happen and now I don't even know if it will or anything has been done. And now I'm worried that she wont' be there at all. Which brings me to the heartbreaking realization that my other best friend WAY more than her deserves to be my MOH and I should have given her that honor in the first place. She has done so much for me already, is in event planning, and has an INSANE schedule (non-stop from 7a-10p MINIMUM every day) but she still manages to find time for me. She is amazing and wonderful and has been everything a MOH should be. I mentioned the possibility of my current MOH dropping out and asked if needed, could she step in and she immediately said yes. I would never fire my MOH because I love her, but its almost not even worth the stress and drama and hurt that she has caused me. I wish I could just change it but I can't. And I hate that. Worst part is, current MOH has huge jealousy issues with my other best friend (major insecurity issues) and would be pissed if she was my new MOH, but she'd just have to deal with it...*sigh*

If you got through that whole thing...I applaud you :)

Re: very frustrated with my MOH (long!)

  • iamjoesgurliamjoesgurl member
    2500 Comments Fifth Anniversary
    edited December 2011
    I got through that whole thing.  Wink

    Seriously, I'm sorry that you are dealing with this.  It sucks!  Like you said, there isn't much you can do but if your current MOH backs out, you shouldn't feel bad at all about your other friend being MOH.  Is she in the wedding anyway?  If so, it should be pretty easy to make it happen.

    You said that current MOH said she may not be able to make it.  If I were you, I'd want to know now whether or not she will be coming for it.  Did she say when she'd let you know?  Can you talk to her about being told one way or the other by a certain time?  Or does it even matter?

    Again, sorry that you are dealing with this.  I can't even imagine.  Hang in there.
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  • azdancer8azdancer8 member
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    edited December 2011

    I'm so sorry you are dealing with this. :(

    I agree with joesgurl. For your own sanity, if nothing else, you need to know if you can rely on her to stand with you on your wedding day.


    As for the shower, my MOH did a co-shower with my mom (more of an engagement party, really). If she stays your MOH, is there someone else who might be willing to step in and assist her? Or even some ladies from your church maybe who would throw you one?

  • edited December 2011
    Ugh, Rachel. So so sorry that you are going through this. Oh my word. I cannot even imagine. My thoughts are exactly the same as Joesgurl. Maybe you could talk to your mom about a shower?

    I would definitely try to find out about this ASAP so you can move on with your planning. Just keep your head up and remember you're marrying Nate :) ::hugs::
  • edited December 2011
    soulds like your California friend dropped out, so if you replace her, she shouldn't be upset - if she says anything, just tell her "you couldn't make it, so I had to make due with who I had" 

    I don't have a MOH, but I do have 3 bridesmaids - they're all my cousins, and all still in school. One's in high school, the other 2 are in junior high. the highscholler is going to act as MOH in the fact that she's going to sign the marriage liscense as a witness, but thats about all she's doing. I bought their dresses, they're going to hold flowers, walk down the aisle, and look pretty. I really doubt they'll help me with any of my planning, DIY stuff, decorating or throwing showers - a good friend of my mom's (who's a wedding planner) is helping with most of that. 
  • edited December 2011
    So sorry you are going through this! Everyone is right- she needs to tell you for sure if she will be there for the wedding or not. It's so hard when we are such good friends with someone and they hurt us repeatedly. We know we should be forgiving, but we also don't deserve to keep going through the same old things with someone. I will pray that it all works out for you. With or without her, your wedding will be beautiful! 
  • edited December 2011
    Thank you for all the support ladies :) When I told my current MOH that my other friend (who is currently my #1 BM) could step in if she needs to step out she said to give her a week first to figure it out. I know we need a phone conversation about this and it shouldn't be all through texts, but as I said she is so hard to get ahold of. If she can't tell me by that time, I'm going to have to let my other girl stpe in. Then I need to either find a new BM (I know it doesn't HAVE to match, but I WANT it to...) or ask my brother if he really wants to be a GM (he's in it primarily to keep numbers even). I may just go that route because we'd save on a bouquet, a bouteneirre, and 2 gifts...I just want her to be there, despite all the drama she caused. And I know if she is "replaced" by this other girl, she won't be even if she could come just as a guest. But I realy appreciate the support from you guys! :)
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_very-frustrated-moh-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:56760461-2291-4515-b474-210bca51db65Post:18a7b2f9-b84e-4ebb-a2f6-87f2ecc57862">Re: very frustrated with my MOH (long!)</a>:
    [QUOTE]Thank you for all the support ladies :) When I told my current MOH that my other friend (who is currently my #1 BM) could step in if she needs to step out she said to give her a week first to figure it out. I know we need a phone conversation about this and it shouldn't be all through texts, but as I said she is so hard to get ahold of. If she can't tell me by that time, I'm going to have to let my other girl stpe in. Then I need to either find a new BM (I know it doesn't HAVE to match, but I WANT it to...) or ask my brother if he really wants to be a GM (he's in it primarily to keep numbers even). I may just go that route because we'd save on a bouquet, a bouteneirre, and 2 gifts...I just want her to be there, despite all the drama she caused. And I know if she is "replaced" by this other girl, she won't be even if she could come just as a guest. But I realy appreciate the support from you guys! :)
    Posted by rachelea[/QUOTE]

    <div>Why would you need another BM?  That's just silly, sorry.</div>
  • MrsTucker2011MrsTucker2011 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_very-frustrated-moh-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:56760461-2291-4515-b474-210bca51db65Post:654b61d7-a7e6-4dc1-88d9-8a6d35c59c12">Re: very frustrated with my MOH (long!)</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: very frustrated with my MOH (long!) : Why would you need another BM?  That's just silly, sorry.
    Posted by katieisawesome[/QUOTE]

    Yeahhhhhhhhhhh, now it's getting a little petty. I can understand everything up to MOH dropping out and another BM stepping up, but adding another BM? Then it's like A list/B list. I'm afraid you might hurt the person's feelings if you ask them 3 months before the wedding. <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-undecided.gif" border="0" alt="Undecided" title="Undecided" />
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  • edited December 2011
    I'm glad you're giving her a week to figure it out.  You might let her know that if she doesn't give you an answer you're going to take that as she can't make it.  It's great your BM is stepping up though and it shows how much she cares for you!!  :)

    As far as even sides - I understand that, although it is silly.  :P  Could you talk to your brother and say, "Hey!! I really really really want you to be a part of our day which is why I put you as groomsmen.  Is that the duty you truly want or is there something else you have in mind?  I want you to be happy with your title!!"  That way if he chooses GM you can figure out if you really want/need a BM, and if he wants something else you're covered.  I'd make sure if you do want another BM that it's not JUST to have even sides though - that it's someone you truly want standing up there with you.  I know uneven sides isn't ideal but you could definitely have a guy "pimpin" and no one would even notice uneven sides.  :)


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  • edited December 2011
    I want things even. I know they don't HAVE to be, but I really don't want uneven numbers. There's no real reason for that, aside from the fact that its just not what I want. So to keep it even the way I always envisioned, I would need to ask someone to stand up with me or ask a GM to step down. 4 of the 6 GM are FI's friends. My brother, who he really doesn't know at all and is in no way close to him, is making it even but we don't now one way or the other if he's all excited to do it (it isn't really his thing, but he'd do anything for me and gets easily offended and could get so if we asked him down).

    Also...the word "petty" doesn't seem very nice when that isn't the case at all...I have always had a vision of my wedding and I envisioned it being the same number on each side...I don't feel like I should have to explain the vision I have always had... :(
  • MrsTucker2011MrsTucker2011 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_very-frustrated-moh-long?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:56760461-2291-4515-b474-210bca51db65Post:8fff9c6c-d823-4dd6-aaa9-a8016697678b">Re: very frustrated with my MOH (long!)</a>:
    [QUOTE]I want things even. I know they don't HAVE to be, but I really don't want uneven numbers. There's no real reason for that, aside from the fact that its just not what I want. So to keep it even the way I always envisioned, I would need to ask someone to stand up with me or ask a GM to step down. 4 of the 6 GM are FI's friends. My brother, who he really doesn't know at all and is in no way close to him, is making it even but we don't now one way or the other if he's all excited to do it (it isn't really his thing, but he'd do anything for me and gets easily offended and could get so if we asked him down). Also...the word "petty" doesn't seem very nice when that isn't the case at all...I have always had a vision of my wedding and I envisioned it being the same number on each side...I don't feel like I should have to explain the vision I have always had... :(
    Posted by rachelea[/QUOTE]

    The only reason why I said that WASN'T to say 'Oh you're sooo mean.' It was more to say, hey if I was the person you asked  3 months before to stand up in the wedding, my feelings would be hurt. Why didn't you ask me with everyone else? It would make them feel like a filler. Good enough to stand up, but only when the people you wanted first, step down. Especially would add stress in regards to a BM dress, duties, etc.
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  • LuluP82LuluP82 member
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    edited December 2011
    Yeah I also think it's rude and potential for hurt feelings if you either get a new BM or ask your brother to step down as a GM. It sucks you won't have even sides, but it is what it is.

    I also wanted even sides, and my H's uncle, one of the GMs, couldn't make the wedding. We found out about 3 months before too. We thought about adding another GM, but in the end, decided that it would be silly to do that, since people aren't really replaceable.

    I promise, no one noticed, or cared, including us! And we had a Catholic wedding, so we were there for a long time. We just had the GMs, the priest and my H come in from the side, and then the BMs walked in down the aisle. On the way back, we just had one guy with two girls.

    It sucks your MOH is being a bad friend, but don't go be a bad friend to someone else, or a bad sister! Your replacement BM and  your Bro haven't done anything to deserve such inconsiderate treatment.
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  • edited December 2011
       Even if she does end up being able to make it to the wedding after all, by telling you that she's not sure if she will, she is basically removing herself from the MOH role.  You need to be able to have someone that you are positive you can count on when that day comes.

       I would talk to your friend again, ask if she knows for sure whether or not she will be able to attend, and if she's still not certain, explain that you would love to have her stand up there with you, but you are going to have to transfer the MOH role to someone else that you know is going to be there.  If your wedding were still twelve months away, it would be entirely different, but this is crunch time.
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