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June 2012 Weddings

Update on changing the date (Long and rant-y sorry)

I called my parents this morning to discuss it with them. FI & I are mostly paying for the wedding, but my parents are making a considerable contribution. ($3,000) Plus, it is at their house.

They were both really peeved. My dad made a good point about venue. He said if we move it to August doing it outside is just a horrible idea. Horrible. He can't afford to pay for an alternate venue. I said we are maxed out as it is. So he said that if FI's mom wants to pay for a venue then we can move it. So, I talked to FI. He said he didn't have time to call her now, but I could text her. This is what I sent:

"Hey so I just talked to my parents about changing the date. They agree that an outdoor wedding in August is a major gamble. So we would have to change the venue. The only problem with that is money. Before we decided to do it at my parent's house the cheapest place I found was $2,500. We can't afford that nor can my parents. I could keep looking for a cheaper place, but without money that's kind of pointless. I'm not sure of a solution, but we will work on it."

I lied. I totally know a solution. She can pay, but it isn't my place to ask his mom for money. Her response was this:

"Thank you...I am sorry. If I can help with the cost I will...I probably could not do the 2500 by myself...but I could probably give you guys at least 800...a little at a time...we will see please let me know. I don't want this to be a huge pain for you & I am sorry."

Oh no. Changing my wedding 5 months out is no big deal. None at all. *rolls eyes*

I did find a cheaper place. We are going to talk about it tonight. We have to decide tonight though because tomorrow is when I'm signing contracts with like 4 vendors. If only she had waited until next week. Then I could just say sorry no can do. We're under contract. Ugh.

FI has already told her the invitations are the only thing that we have paid for. He also told her they weren't printed yet. Plus, he's already told them all individually that we are changing the date.

Some of you were wondering why they haven't seen each other in three years. The reason is that FI moved from Washington to Oklahoma to find a job. He was unemployed in Washington and had no prospects. Only in the past two years has he had steady income. Up until recently he has not had money to go see them, and now all our money is going towards the wedding. His family has not come here b/c the two older children still live with their mom. They are 23 and 20. She still supports them, and since she is supporting two full grown kids and one little kid on her own she can't afford to come see FI.

FSIL won't have PTO because she is having a baby in March and will have used it all for her maternity leave. I may be out of line, but I still think that her excuse is crappy. I don't think it is a good idea to travel with such a young baby, but then again I don't know anything about babies.

Oh, and his sister is such a diva. Seriously. She text me after everything last night and told me her daughter would be 5 months old in August. Then asked me if I wanted her to get a matching BM dress for her baby. I said, "You realize BM's hold flowers not babies right?" She never answered...

Re: Update on changing the date (Long and rant-y sorry)

  • Stick to your guns.  Do not change the date.  A year out, MAYBE. 5 months out? No way in hell. 

    I laughed at "I don't want to be a pain" interesting...
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    [QUOTE] "You realize BM's hold flowers not babies right?" She never answered...
    Posted by AshnRobo[/QUOTE]

    I LOVE THIS!! lol I am sooo sorry you are going through this but I still would not change my wedding date. They all knew far enough in advance that... so at this point they need to make it work. Even asking you to change your wedding date is the craziest thing I have ever heard... I already have all my major vendor's booked and purchased things with my date on them and I would never settle for loosing all that money... I am not sure where you are at in the planning but still UGH! I am annoyed for you!
  • I still think you shouldn't be budging.  This is YOUR WEDDING.  They gave you the go-ahead in March (aka TEN months ago) that this was okay.  I still vote you call their bluff.  You shouldn't have even told your FMIL you were open to other options unless you actually are.  Stop trying to move the world for people who are being such a pain in the butt.  I am willing to bet you as soon as you move it, someone else of importance will come forward and say your new date doesn't work for them.  If they don't want to travel, that is their problem. 

    PTO is a lame excuse.  She will need it regardless of when the wedding is.
    Class is also a lame excuse.  Skip it for crying out loud.
  • I also call shenanigans on the travel excuses.  Mom should have saved up the money to fly solo to see unemployed son.  What's a couple hundred bucks when it's your SON.  And you are supporting your other children but can't even go see him? Come on.  If they wanted it to happen, they'd make it work.  

    And now all of a sudden, they can afford the plane tickets? Please.
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    [QUOTE]<strong>Stick to your guns.  Do not change the date.  A year out, MAYBE. 5 months out? No way in hell. </strong> I laughed at "I don't want to be a pain" interesting...
    Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

    exactly. don't do it
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  • I didn't jump into your previous convo about this, but I totally support all of the other knotties in saying DO NOT CHANGE YOUR DATE!  I feel bad that you are even trying to appease this family.  Seriously, your Fi was way out of line for telling everyone you guys would change the date, but that is his own issue to deal with and fix, not yours.  

    What kind of student has school on a Saturday?!  No one.  And this sister does not need PTO, that is absurd.  Really, what difference will one month make....

    Please don't do it!  You deserve to have the wedding of your dreams, not some compromise wedding that does not make you happy.
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  • Please do not change your date. I feel they are both really crappy excuses. Hold Strong, let your inner zilla out and keep your date.
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  • FMIL, June X has been the date since March.  It is impossible at this point to change the date without it being a serious financial burden, and time consuming.  We hope you can make it June X.

    This is what I would say. It only takes two people to get married.  Not everyone will be able to attend.  If they really want to, they will.  What if you changed your date and *gasp* FBIL has a nail appointment that day?

    I'm being ridiculous.  But that's how I feel they are being.  
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    [QUOTE]FMIL, June X has been the date since March.  It is impossible at this point to change the date without it being a serious financial burden, and time consuming.  We hope you can make it June X. This is what I would say. It only takes two people to get married.  Not everyone will be able to attend.  If they really want to, they will.  What if you changed your date and *gasp* FBIL has a nail appointment that day? I'm being ridiculous.  But that's how I feel they are being.  
    Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

    This! I agree with Meg. This, This, This.
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    [QUOTE]FMIL, June X has been the date since March.  It is impossible at this point to change the date without it being a serious financial burden, and time consuming.  We hope you can make it June X. This is what I would say. It only takes two people to get married.  Not everyone will be able to attend.  If they really want to, they will.  <strong>What if you changed your date and *gasp* FBIL has a nail appointment that day?</strong> I'm being ridiculous.  But that's how I feel they are being.  
    Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

    <div>Hahahaha, your posts always make me laugh.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Update on changing the date (Long and rant-y sorry) : Hahahaha, your posts always make me laugh.
    Posted by Shanee18[/QUOTE]

    <div>I use others to allow my Bridezilla to come out.  Along with that comes insanity, and apparently humor? Meh.  I don't hate it.</div><div>
    </div><div>Really. I'm not actually a b****.  Just very real.  I would like to think real people wouldn't do this to their family/soon to be family.  Peeves me to no end. </div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Update on changing the date (Long and rant-y sorry) : I use others to allow my Bridezilla to come out.  Along with that comes insanity, and apparently humor? Meh.  I don't hate it. Really. I'm not actually a b****.  Just very real. <strong> I would like to think real people wouldn't do this to their family/soon to be family.  Peeves me to no end. </strong>
    Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

    <div>I agree completely.  And the fact that OP is even trying to work with the fam means that she is a much better person than I am because I would have said hell no from the very beginning.  Some people just love to create drama and be difficult.</div>
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  • I would only change it if they are footing the whole bill for the new venue, and you have the cold hard cash in your hands before you change the date. No way would I change it any other way. Honestly, I probably wouldn't even change it, period.

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    [QUOTE]I would only change it if they are footing the whole bill for the new venue, and you have the cold hard cash in your hands before you change the date. No way would I change it any other way. Honestly, I probably wouldn't even change it, period.
    Posted by doeie04[/QUOTE]

    <div>They would also have to completely do everything for me. As in rebook everything.  And it would have to meet my high standards.  They would need to individually call each guest and tell them the date change and explain WHY with an apology.  </div><div>
    </div><div>So yeah.  It would never happen.</div>
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    [QUOTE]FMIL, June X has been the date since March.  It is impossible at this point to change the date without it being a serious financial burden, and time consuming.  We hope you can make it June X. This is what I would say. It only takes two people to get married.  Not everyone will be able to attend.  If they really want to, they will.  What if you changed your date and *gasp* FBIL has a nail appointment that day? I'm being ridiculous.  But that's how I feel they are being.  
    Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

    This!!! haha!!

    But seriously... she cant afford to visit her son, yet she can now fly out for the wedding and pay 800 for the venue? That doesnt make sense at all.

    I think its ridiculous and I am so sorry you have to deal with this. I would sit down with FI tonight and explain how ridiculous it is to be moving the date right now for NO GOOD REASON. I dont understand how he could possibly think this is ok.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Update on changing the date (Long and rant-y sorry) : They would also have to completely do everything for me. As in rebook everything.  And it would have to meet my high standards.  They would need to individually call each guest and tell them the date change and explain WHY with an apology.   So yeah.  It would never happen.
    Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]

    I agree. It is a ton of work. Although I would want to book stuff just because I don't like putting important details in someone elses hands.

    Did they send out STDs? I would totally make FMIL and FI call and let everyone know the changes and apologize. Some people have already taken days off to make it to the wedding. Other guests are probably planning their lives around your wedding date and will be annoyed that you changed it and may not be able to come.
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  • You want to know what Immanuel Kant would say? 100 (plus B&G) > 2

    (More eloquently: Go with what produces the greatest amount of good for the greatest number of people)

    Whoa, you guys just witnessed me philosophize.  And I'm on break!
  • First off, I love and completely agree with everything Meaghan has said.  Thank you for making me feel better Meaghan.

    Secondly, I also agree with everyone else in that you shouldn't change your date even for these silly excuses. 

    And $800? Does she seriously think you can get a venue 5 months out for $800 in increments?  She's still making it a burden with the added cost even WITH her contribution.

    I'd really sit down with your FI tonight and tell him about everything we've said in the 2 threads about how it is impossible to do and let him tell his family the date stands.
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  • honestly i would not change it this close, i would tell sis she could take uto as it is only a day or 2 she would need off, most can make that up, same for his bro, talk to the professors ahead of time & get the material covered. It is not as cut & dry as they make it sound unless he has a major exam on that date. I would be PISSED at fiance for telling them ya we can change it np without even discussing it with you. 
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    [QUOTE]honestly i would not change it this close, i would tell sis she could take uto as it is only a day or 2 she would need off, most can make that up, same for his bro, talk to the professors ahead of time & get the material covered. It is not as cut & dry as they make it sound unless he has a major exam on that date. I would be PISSED at fiance for telling them ya we can change it np without even discussing it with you. 
    Posted by sweetcanadian1979[/QUOTE]



    I am pissed. I don't even want to see him right now pissed. Stayed at work an extra four hours to avoid being home pissed.

    All of you have made excellent points. Since I have all these appointments for tomorrow, we are going to discuss it this evening when he gets of work. I feel like him telling him we will change it for them puts me in a position that if I don't stand behind his statement then I'm a brat. Or unfit to be his wife.

    Basically, I feel like I will be the bad guy for not changing it. I never thought about it, but all of you are right. His mom shouldn't put the burden of visiting all on him. Especially when he has been working so hard just to make it. I mean he moved across the country with nothing. Nothing except what he could fit in a small back pack. From that he has managed to get a job, a good place to live (even before we moved in together), and a car. That takes a lot of hard work. She should be the one flying to see him.

    I will update either later tonight or tomorrow morning with what happens.

    Thanks for all the support. I really appreciate it. Initially I thought I was being a bridezilla for not wanting to change the date. Now, I know I am one but this is an okay time to be one.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Update on changing the date (Long and rant-y sorry) : I am pissed. I don't even want to see him right now pissed. Stayed at work an extra four hours to avoid being home pissed. All of you have made excellent points. Since I have all these appointments for tomorrow, we are going to discuss it this evening when he gets of work. I feel like him telling him we will change it for them puts me in a position that if I don't stand behind his statement then I'm a brat. Or unfit to be his wife. Basically, I feel like I will be the bad guy for not changing it. I never thought about it, but all of you are right. His mom shouldn't put the burden of visiting all on him. Especially when he has been working so hard just to make it. I mean he moved across the country with nothing. Nothing except what he could fit in a small back pack. From that he has managed to get a job, a good place to live (even before we moved in together), and a car. That takes a lot of hard work. She should be the one flying to see him. I will update either later tonight or tomorrow morning with what happens. Thanks for all the support. I really appreciate it. Initially I thought I was being a bridezilla for not wanting to change the date. Now, I know I am one but this is an okay time to be one.
    Posted by AshnRobo[/QUOTE]

    <div>Good luck. Seriously, I think it goes without saying that we all wish you the best. </div>
  • I haven't commented, but 100% agree with everyone else.  I hope your talk with FI tonite works out well and he realizes how unrealistic it is to change your date now.  Even if he has told his family you will change the date, he can still go back and tell them that you guys have discussed it together and you both agree that the date can't be changed.  If his family really wants to be there, they'll figure it out...and if they don't, unfortunately, in my opinion it means they didn't care enough.
    Good luck!
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Update on changing the date (Long and rant-y sorry) : Good luck. Seriously, I think it goes without saying that we all wish you the best. 
    Posted by Megbo2012[/QUOTE]
     Good Luck and we are all behind you! Hugs
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  • Good luck! I agree with PP, stick to your guns!
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  • Respond to her second text and inform her that moving a wedding date 5 months out is a GIGANTIC burden and you don't even know if it will be possible even if you get another ten grand.  Weddings book up about a year in advance, and the last-minute ones often have to make huge sacrifices in terms of quality of services, locations, and number of guests who can attend.  If your vendors can't make your changed date becuase they're already booked, you lose your deposits AND have to find new vendors - that's a lot of money right there.

    And FSIL is using all of her PTO for maternity leave?  How does that work?  Is she extending her maternity leave for some reason?  Do they realize that it's kind of REALLY unhealthy for an infant that young to be outside in heats that high?
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  • Okay Ash...first of all, you are not a bridezilla. We all told you to let it out and you're over there trying to be accomodating. Second...I probably would have punched FI in the balls if he pulled this mess. Third...I must be the worst FDIL/SIL ever. I get annoyed about Fi's parents for way less than that. And I agree with everyone else! Stay strong! I'm pretty sure my m would have called those people and let them have it by now. Please please please stand up for yourself. A wedding at your parent's home sounds amazing and you and your family don't want to risk that for someone who doesn't bother to see her son. Also, and this is so none of my business, but I'm pretty sure your FSIL should have been more careful in the sexual promiscuity department if she's still living at home and having a baby.
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    [QUOTE]I would only change it if they are footing the whole bill for the new venue, and you have the cold hard cash in your hands before you change the date. No way would I change it any other way. Honestly, I probably wouldn't even change it, period.
    Posted by doeie04[/QUOTE]

    This! This whole situation makes me so irritated for you. You're a saint in my book for even considering changing your date. Good luck, and keep us updated!
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  • Good luck ash, waiting on an update. Please, please, please do not change the date. It does NOT make you a bad wife 5 months from a wedding that has been planned for 10 months. It makes THEM bad inlaws for even asking for that!!!
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